Prometheus
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WHO IS HE????
Is he king of sikhs??? or leader of sikhs????
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WHO IS HE????
Is he king of sikhs??? or leader of sikhs????
I can understand the sentiments of some calling himself Iqbal_Brar,lol...
So who are friends of Sikhs ,the secular congress party who massacred thousands of sikhs.
U blame chadiwalla RSS for tarneshing ur religion.Fine.
But the biggest sikh party Akali Dal is a partner of the same RSS and BJP .
Here is what prominent secular sikh writer Mr Khuswant Singh wrote about hindu fundametalist RSS activities during the sikh riots of 1984.
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sikhism is close to hinduism body and soul,
The hinduism that based on the Vedas .
The Sikh religion is made by gurus who were hindus by birth and followers who too are khattri or jatt hindu ,later on joined by lower caste hindus.There was no conversion from islam to sikhism discounting few muslim sufi saints who coperated with sikh gurus.
The sikhs and hindu can inter marry and its not taboo.,its surprising in a caste ridden hindu .
They visit each others place of worship.
U never see such collaboration among sikhs and muslims.
Just few days ago i was reading an article written By Tariq Ali, who was bemoaning how the Sikh ruled punjab and kashmir ruined were worst time in those region .And one of the reason he gave was the banning on cow slaughter ordered by sikh rulers of that time.
WHO IS HE????
Is he king of sikhs??? or leader of sikhs????
lol i didnt know they had a king.
probably some cleric
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Will Sikhs support and fight against India in case of all out war between India and Pakistan?
If you'd read the Bani of the Gurus, and principles of Sikhism, its very different from Hinduism. But this ain't the forum to discuss it and I'd prefer continuing our discussion through PM..
Many of the followers of Sikhism are of Punjabi khatries and Jatt caste . Guru Nanak was of Khatri caste and so do other gurus.Rest of the Sikhs were lower caste. Hindus[If we talk about the Gurus, most were of the Bedi sub-caste. In fact the first 6 Gurus were all related and of the same Bedi sub-caste, which is now classified as one of the backward classes in Punjab.
And none of the Gurus were Jatts. You do have a lot to learn about Sikhism.
I talked about the same point in my post that you quoted. In terms of visiting each other's places of worship, some Sikhs do visit mazars and dargahs of Sufi saints. Faridkot hosts a major mela every year to commemorate the Sufi saint Baba Farid. Sikhs throng that mela in huge numbers
Whatever we have talked about has hardly any significance for Indian Sikhs support to the Indian nation. Sikhs in India continue to serve their nation to their utmost capacity
Whats that even suppose to mean?? You now have a problem with my name? Add me on facebook and we'll talk... And add me from your REAL profile, not some BS fake profile which most RSS/chadiwalla supporters always use... I'm not afraid to use my real name unlike you...
Thats because of u dont understand Hinduism.Well,there is such thing
as called Hinduism,its a mere English word encompassing many strands of Satana dharma.I'm sure the Sikh gurus had never heard anything called "Hinduism".They didn't deliberately tried to teach
something different from Hinduism.Sikh holy books name often Ram and Shiva as god and are heavily influenced by the "Vedas".
Guru Nanak was part the Bhakti movement at a time which saw many other gurus such as Santa Kabir ,Guru Ram das and other Sufi saint who were all influenced from each other.
Guru Nanak and others tried to bring religious reform in the Hindu practices which have wild with blind believes ,social ills like caste exploitations.Its was spiritual movement which preached spirituality in simplicity beyond Braminical ritualistic approach.
[If we talk about the Gurus, most were of the Bedi sub-caste. In fact the first 6 Gurus were all related and of the same Bedi sub-caste, which is now classified as one of the backward classes in Punjab.
And none of the Gurus were Jatts. You do have a lot to learn about Sikhism.
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Many of the followers of Sikhism are of Punjabi khatries and Jatt caste . Guru Nanak was of Khatri caste and so do other gurus.Rest of the Sikhs were lower caste. Hindus
FYI,Bedi sub caste and other Sodhi, Trehan and Bhalla castes are part of the Khatri clan .
well lot of Hindus also do visit Sufi darghas including me.
but how many Hindus or Sikhs go for Friday prayers in a mosque or how many Muslims come to Gurudwaras or Hindu temples to do arti??
On the other hand Sikhs and Hindus visit each others place of worship like temples and Gurudwaras
'm no expert in Sikhism,but i knew few things abouts it and see whats happened on the ground over period Sikh history and I'm against that canard spread by some Iqbal_brar that Sikhism is equally distanced from both Islam and Hindu religion which untrue.
If Punjabi Sikhs are close to anyone in both religious and cultural , then it has to be the Punjabi Hindus since the Punjabi Muslims are part of alien Arab origin Islam which is very different how its read and practiced on the ground.
Listen, I tell you again, no Jatt was ever a Guru. I am myself a Jatt so I'd know.
Now lets take this Sikhism's similarity with other religions to another forum. It is off-topic.
This thread is pure BS, it needs to be closed. How can anyone challenge the patriotism of Indian sikhs? Mods please close this thread.
You are right.. this thread is stupid... Most Sikhs hold more grudges against Muslims as compared to hindus.. so ofcourse they will support Hindus and India
I don't know why some Pakistanis start such stupid threads...
and that guy biplob is annoying... trying to force his beliefs on Sikhs when Sikhs themselves are claiming again and again it is a different religion..