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Who will be the next army chief?

i spoke to few who have worked under his command and --- not very high opinion of him as compared to Gen Raheel, it could be wrong but if you look at all this in the context of what you said below ---- it will all come together

Oh...
Anyways... I remember one more thing... If u recall, tht dawn article abt list of candidates, a month ago.....while mentioning Gen Bajwa's name...it stated ..tht despite being in LOC area, and related positions, he doesnt take india, as a threat and only considers terrorism major threat.. So maybe ..he is soft on India...this is one more thing which suits Nawaz Sharif... Gen Raheel has been extremely vocal against India... Infact never heard anyother chief mentioning india repeatedly in hsi speechs.. He first time, openly linked RAW with terrorism...otherwise, earlier we used to shy away from naming India...heck..he even named Narenda modi in his speech in Gilgit... nawaz Sharif never liked this.......ok..gone a bit offtopic..but
If we see Gen Bajwa suits PML N on all accounts... Softer stance on India, and also strictly against any step during dharnas.... So now, pml n wants to popularise their choice in public ..so lobbying in media tht he is gen raheel's choice
 
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Oh... These are very strong words to be used...shocked.....but wait..what is he even doing in the list of candidates for COAS, as a senior general?

Anyways... I remember one more thing... If u recall, tht dawn article abt list of candidates, a month ago.....while mentioning Gen Bajwa's name...it stated ..tht despite being in LOC area, and related positions, he doesnt take india, as a threat and only considers terrorism major threat.. So maybe ..he is soft on India...this is one more thing which suits Nawaz Sharif... Gen Raheel has been extremely vocal against India... Infact never heard anyother chief mentioning india repeatedly in hsi speechs.. He first time, openly linked RAW with terrorism...otherwise, earlier we used to shy away from naming India...heck..he even named Narenda modi in his speech in Gilgit... nawaz Sharif never liked this.......ok..gone a bit offtopic..but
If we see Gen Bajwa suits PML N on all accounts... Softer stance on India, and also strictly against any step during dharnas.... So now, pml n wants to popularise their choice in public ..so lobbying in media tht he is gen raheel's choice
can you edit my quoted post??? my permission to use those words was revoked :D
 
I hope the best man gets chosen...but not vety high chances of this, considering Nawaz sharif and his mentality....he would want his own man rather than the best one... Read some good things abt Gen Zubair Hayat and Gen Ishfaq, but Nawaz Sharif :( ...
 
I hope that it will be either Lt Gen. Zubair Hayat or Lt Gen. Ishfaq Nadeem as next chief but who knows that what is in the heart of Mian ji.
 
I am sure after URI attack in IOK, Raheel Shareef will get extension. So its waste of time to discuss who will be, That is all my assessment and analysis.
 
There you go. Thank me later.

Appointment of Chief of Army Staff

A high level meeting was held in Islamabad today and appointment of Army Chief was finally deliberated....summary has been prepared for PM's final approval. The meeting was attended by Defence Minister with Chief Minister Punjab in Chair. Some important government officials were part of the meeting through IT link on behalf of the PM. Lt Gen Zubair Hayat has emerged as the consensus candidate as Army Chief and Lt Gen Ramday as Chairman Joint Chief. The details have been discussed with PM as well who has given his final approval for Min of Def to process the notification. The PM will announce the appointment of both Army Chief and Joint Chief on return from his visit.
 
Lt Gen Ashfaq Nadeem seems like a great veteran , rising from the ranks of colonel , but even last time we snubed a great war hero Lt Gen Tariq Khan , who had a vast war experience

The only chance of Lt Gen Ashfaq is that he was on the side of not taking action against nawaz in dharnas .
 
There you go. Thank me later.

Appointment of Chief of Army Staff

A high level meeting was held in Islamabad today and appointment of Army Chief was finally deliberated....summary has been prepared for PM's final approval. The meeting was attended by Defence Minister with Chief Minister Punjab in Chair. Some important government officials were part of the meeting through IT link on behalf of the PM. Lt Gen Zubair Hayat has emerged as the consensus candidate as Army Chief and Lt Gen Ramday as Chairman Joint Chief. The details have been discussed with PM as well who has given his final approval for Min of Def to process the notification. The PM will announce the appointment of both Army Chief and Joint Chief on return from his visit.

He's the senior most in the list.

Lt Gen Zubair Hayat is from the artillery and the serving CGS. As a three-star general, he was previously posted as director general of the Strategic Plans Division (SPD), which is the secretariat of the NCA; and corps commander Bahawalpur.

His postings as CGS and DG SPD afforded him an opportunity to work very closely with PM Sharif and Finance Minister Ishaq Dar.

During his tenure as a major general, he was general officer commanding (GOC) Sialkot and later headed the Staff Duties (SD) Directorate, whose personnel are commonly known in the army as ‘paper tigers’. His stay at the directorate and his earlier posting as principal staff officer to the army chief brought him closer to Gen Kayani, and he is generally seen as Gen Kayani’s protégé.

It may be noted that he has never served in a conflict zone.

Some of those who worked with him describe him as “workaholic” and a “vociferous reader”.

He is also said to have a very sharp memory.

Gen Zubair is a second generation officer. His father retired as a major general, while two of his brothers are generals: Pakistan Ordnance Factories Wah Chairman Lt Gen Omar Hayat and Inter-Services Intelligence DG (Analysis) Maj Gen Ahmad Mahmood Hayat.
 
As Army chief's tenure nears end, PM Nawaz faces key choice

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif faces a key choice in the coming weeks about who should run Pakistan’s powerful military, one that will have a major influence on the country’s often strained relationships with the United States and nuclear rival India

With Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif saying he will step down when his tenure ends in November, the top post is up for grabs, and the prime minister decides who gets it. Overshadowing the process has been speculation in the media and by some government officials that the general, no relation to the premier, may seek to hold on to some or all of his powers even after his term is finished.

The general is immensely popular among ordinary Pakistanis, who see him as a bulwark against crime, corruption and militant violence. He has also strengthened the military’s grip over aspects of government, including the judiciary and areas of security policy. Yet the military flatly rejects the possibility of an extension.

“I will request you to avoid speculations, because we have already taken a position very clearly,” Lieutenant General Asim Bajwa, the army’s main spokesman, told a recent press briefing. The military declined to comment further and said General Sharif was not available for interview.

In a country prone to military coups, including one in which Nawaz Sharif himself was ousted from power in 1999, suspicions that the general will remain in his post persist, including among some of the prime minister’s senior aides. Reuters has no independent evidence to corroborate this view.

“Army chiefs soon begin to think they are invincibles-in-chief,” said a close aide to Nawaz Sharif, requesting anonymity as he was not authorised to speak about military appointments.

What happens at the top of Pakistan’s armed forces will be closely watched overseas. With nearly 10,000 US troops in Afghanistan fighting the Afghan Taliban and other militant groups, Washington is losing patience with what it says is Pakistan’s failure to hunt down insurgents who launch attacks on Afghanistan from Pakistani territory. Pakistan denies this. India has ratcheted up rhetoric against Pakistan, alarmed at an escalation of violence in the disputed region of Kashmir, including an attack on an army base there that killed 18 soldiers. Islamabad denies accusations it was behind the raid.

List of contenders

According to three close aides to the prime minister and a senior military official, the military high command has sent the prime minister the dossiers of four main contenders.

The premier’s favourite, the aides said, was Lieutenant General Javed Iqbal Ramday, commander of XXXI Corps who led a 2009 operation to drive the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan militant movement from Swat Valley near the Afghan border. The three other dossiers are for Lieutenant General Zubair Hayat, Chief of General Staff, Lieutenant General Ishfaq Nadeem Ahmad, commanding officer in the eastern city of Multan, and Lieutenant General Qamar Javed Bajwa, who heads the army’s Training and Evaluation Wing.

Ramday is considered among the front-runners, in part because his family has been associated with Nawaz Sharif’s Pakistan Muslim League (PMLN) party for many years. He is also seen by some security officials as popular with General Sharif. “He’s perhaps as liked by Raheel Sharif as he is by Nawaz Sharif,” said a senior security official based in Islamabad, declining to be named.

Neither the prime minister nor General Sharif have commented publicly on his chances. Hayat oversees intelligence and operational affairs at the army’s General Headquarters, and before that headed the Strategic Plans Division (SPD), which is responsible for Pakistan’s nuclear programme. Retired and serving officers who have served with Hayat see him as a compromise between the military and civilian government. Ahmad has extensive experience with military operations, especially against Pakistan’s Taliban insurgency, and was previously the Director General Military Operations.

Several past army chiefs had served as DGMOs before being promoted to the top post. A serving brigadier who has worked with Bajwa said he was the general “most similar in temperament to General Raheel”, adding that: “His chances are also very good.”

The army’s media wing did not respond to requests to interview the four contenders.

Wresting back power

If Nawaz Sharif appoints a new army chief, it could allow him to claw back some of the influence he has ceded since coming to power in 2013, analysts said. In 2014, the prime minister emerged in charge but weakened after protests demanding his resignation, and that year the army also went against his wishes for a negotiated settlement with Taliban militants by sending troops into North Waziristan.

“Nawaz has lost a lot of ground to the military during Raheel’s tenure,” Talat Masood, a retired general and political analyst said. “He will try and retake certain space by asserting himself. I think he would like a change in leadership.” Sharif has been quiet on the issue of the military’s ascendancy in public.

But a statement from his office late last year, issued after the military urged the government to match its efforts in fighting militancy, said “all institutions have to play their role, while remaining within the ambit of the constitution.” Under Raheel Sharif, the army tightened control over the battle against militants, including creating military courts that have sentenced dozens of people to death. The courts have been criticised by lawyers and families of defendants for denying basic rights, and some are challenging the courts’ rulings through the civilian judiciary.

The military has also taken a lead role in policing the southern city of Karachi, a broadly popular operation that has reduced rampant crime but also been denounced as heavy-handed and open to abuses including extra-judicial killings. “If Raheel Sharif hadn’t been chief, these militants and criminals would have destroyed Pakistan,” said Bismillah Khan, a bus driver in the southwestern city of Quetta. “I hope whoever replaces him will be just like him.”

Source:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1190092/army-chiefs-tenure-nears-end-pm-nawaz-faces-key-choice/
 
All these four Generals need some real mustache.:partay:

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Indian Army is an ARMY not an All purpose empire like Pakistan army. Have you ever seen any fuzz on the selection of COAS in India?
This guy looks like an opportunistic worker of some political party in Pakistan who always shouts about 'restoring democracy' in Pakistan.
 
just got off with the phone 0---- and what i have been told is not good ----- Bajwa is a no go -----lacks the professionalism and passion of RS ---- i think Nooni paid journos are spreading the words of Nawzo under the umbrella of RS

finally I found the thread.. yes... we were discussing abt Gen Bajwa... but now, by looks of it...Gen Bajwa is most likely to be next COAS
 

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