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Who Was The Best Fighter Pilot Ever ?

Could anyone explain how many confirm kills did PAF Sabres secure against IAF Hunters? What was their mutual ratio of downing each other (Sabre vs Hunter)? Moreover, could someone shed light on the myth ascribed to "Gnat" as "Sabre Slayer"?
 
Apart from Aerial warfare(Dog Fights), my personal favorite is Hans-Ulrich -Rudel,the Stuka ace.

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Record 2530 sorties, has never been shot by any other pilot(much like Hartman himself).

Hans-Ulrich Rudel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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No doubt Rudel was the greatest combat pilot in history. But he was not a fighter pilot.
 
Could anyone explain how many confirm kills did PAF Sabres secure against IAF Hunters? What was their mutual ratio of downing each other (Sabre vs Hunter)? Moreover, could someone shed light on the myth ascribed to "Gnat" as "Sabre Slayer"?

do some browsing, u will find the answers!
 
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No doubt Rudel was the greatest combat pilot in history. But he was not a fighter pilot.

Fighter pilot? He was more of a commando than an airman .. You dont breed men like that anymore.
 
Erich Alfred Hartmann - German WWII ace

This image shows the greatest ace pilot of all time, a legend who served in the Luftwaffe on the Eastern front in WWII. Nicknamed "The Black Devil", Erich Hartmann claimed 352 combat kills – the highest number ever recorded. He was forced to crash-land damaged aircraft 14 times, but he was never injured and was never shot down. Truly a giant among pilots of fighter planes.

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It is truly amazing to think today of the trauma these pilots must have lived with every day. These were among the bravest men who ever lived, and they deserve our undying respect.
Read more at 10 Greatest Flying Aces in History
 
A great thread.. Very very informative... Salute to all great PAF heroes :pakistan: Felt very proud, reading in this thread abt them

As some one else also asked in this thread erlier, but was not answered yet... Is M.M Alam's record of 5 kills in 30 secs independently acknowledged also, or only through Pakistani sources?
 
there are many pilots but especially the one i admire is
Air Commodore Sattar Alvi who fought during 1971 &1973 recieving two Sitar e Jurat
and in 1973 recieved highest decorations Wissam ul Shujaat &Wissam Faaris by the Syrian President Assad for Gallantry
 
Some statistics:

WW1
Manfred von Richthofen - 80 - top WW1 ace (Germany)
Rene Fonck - 75 - top allied ace (France)
Edward Mannock - 73 top British ace (UK)
Adolphe Pegoud - 6 - first man to achieve ace status in history (France)

WW2:
Erich Hartmann - 352 - top ace of all time (Germany)
Ilmari Juutilainen - 94 - top non German ace (Finland)
Hiroyoshi Nishizawa - 87 - top Japanese ace (Japan)
Ivan Kozhedub - 64 - top allied ace (USSR)
Richard I. Bong - 40 - top US ace (USA)
Johnnie Johnson - 34 - top UK ace, top allied ace on Western front (UK)
Kurt Welter - 63 (25 on Me262) - top jet ace all time (Germany)
Lydia Litvyak - 12 - top female ace all time (USSR)

Post WW2:
Yevgeny Pepelyaev - 23 - top post WW2 ace, top jet vs jet all time (USSR)
Joseph C. McConnell - 16 - top US jet ace (USSR)
Giora Epstein - 17 - top Israeli ace and top supersonic ace all time (Israel)
Nguyen Van Coc - 9 (including 2 UAVs) - top Vietnam war ace (Vietnam)
M M Alam - 9 - top Indo-Pakistan wars ace (Pakistan)
Jalal Zandi - 9 - top Iran-Iraq war ace (Iran)
 
Stuka was a dive bomber dude......
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No doubt Rudel was the greatest combat pilot in history. But he was not a fighter pilot.

did you see his records ? he almost destroyed an army !

"Rudel flew 2,530 combat missions claiming a total of 2,000 targets destroyed; including 800 vehicles, 519 tanks, 150 artillery pieces, a destroyer, two cruisers, one Soviet battleship, 70 landing craft, 4 armored trains, several bridges and nine aircraft which he shot down."

He was a real terminator!
 
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did you see his records ? he almost destroyed an army !

"Rudel flew 2,530 combat missions claiming a total of 2,000 targets destroyed; including 800 vehicles, 519 tanks, 150 artillery pieces, a destroyer, two cruisers, one Soviet battleship, 70 landing craft, 4 armored trains, several bridges and nine aircraft which he shot down."

He was a real terminator!

Not to mention there were German Luftwaffe pilots that scored up to 300 and more kills. No one ever beat that record since.
 
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