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WHO suggests India's death toll for covid19 is around 4.7 million, almost ten times more than offical figure.

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LONDON: A new World Health Organisation (WHO) report, which is being considered the most comprehensive look at the true global toll of the pandemic so far, reveals that the actual number of deaths from the pandemic were nearly three times more than what official data showed.

The report pinpointed India, saying that almost half of the deaths that had not been counted until now occurred in the country, and suggests that 4.7 million people died there, mainly during a huge surge in May and June 2021.

The Indian government, however, puts its death tollenter link description here for the January 2020-December 2021 period far lower: about 480,000.

WHO said it had not yet fully examined new data provided this week by India, which has pushed back against the WHO estimates and issued its own mortality figures for all causes of death in 2020 on Tuesday. WHO said it may add a disclaimer to the report highlighting the ongoing conversation with India.

In a statement issued after the numbers were published, the Indian government said WHO had released the report “without adequately addressing India’s concerns” over what it called “questionable” methods.

The WHO panel, made up of international experts who have been working on the data for months, used a combination of national and local information, as well as statistical models, to estimate totals where the data is incomplete — a methodology that India has criticised.

However, other independent assessments have also put the death toll in India far higher than the official government tally, including a report published in Science which suggested 3 million people may have died of Covid in the country.

There were 14.9 million excess deaths associated with Covid-19 by the end of 2021. The official count of deaths directly attributable to Covid-19 and reported to WHO in that period, from January 2020 to the end of December 2021, is slightly more than 5.4 million.


 
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LOL.

India has a very transparent and detailed CoVid management and response mechanism.


You can find real time data here.



WHO today has ZERO credibility. Especially after it tried to cover up for china. What a bunch of jokers.
 
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Shame the disgusting filthy Ghandy clan and Pappu was spared

mar jaen bhen ke lawdey toh maza aajayega .. terrorist attack mein marein toh aur bhi ziada maza aying :)

or, stay alive... and keep losing elections till you die from from old age or whatever.. chewtia pappu ghandy, most disgusting and corrupt family in the world.
He’s the star campaigner for BJP :lol:
Indians can’t even imagine seeing pappu as PM and hence vote for Modi, that’s why the population of Scamgressis is decreasing election after election.

Every time Pappu opens his mouth, BJP adds thousands of new voters :lol:.
 
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LOL.

India has a very transparent and detailed CoVid management and response mechanism.


You can find real time data here.



WHO today has ZERO credibility. Especially after it tried to cover up for china. What a bunch of jokers.
Lot what a joke. Everyone knew India was hiding deaths when tens of thousands of Indians were dying on roads and government would record would would report all is well



At one of the large cremation grounds in Ahmedabad, a city in the western Indian state of Gujarat, bright orange fires light up the night sky, burning 24 hours a day, like an industrial plant that never shuts down. Suresh Bhai, a worker there, said he had never seen such a never-ending assembly line of death.

But he has not been writing down the cause of death as Covid-19 on the thin paper slips that he hands over to the mournful families, even though the number of dead is surging along with the virus.

“Sickness, sickness, sickness,” Mr. Suresh said. “That’s what we write.”

When asked why, he said it was what he had been instructed to do by his bosses, who did not respond to requests for comment




In the western state of Gujarat, local media tracked 689 bodies that were cremated or buried under COVID-19 protocols in one day in mid-April. But just over a 10th of those deaths made it to the government's tally: The official death toll that day was 78. Such discrepancies were being reported in several states.
 
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I just read the WHO model description. There are serious flaws, not in the statistical method or data science used but in the domain understanding itself !!! For example same set of covariates have been used for all countries - this only helps in explanation of the model but not the applicability of the model.

For example the death count per John Hopkins dataset is around 2.5k/million in UK, 3k in USA but only 200 to 500 in Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India. You can see that :
1. This 1/10 ratio is not just an Indian phenomenon but all of South Asia region. Yet covariates modeled are the same across all continents. How does WHO explain this intrinsic regionsl difference ? By saying it is due to a factor 10 under reporting!

2. Even if the actual is 10 times as reported as the estimate model says, that'd make the south Asian countries only at par with the UK USA types. Which is equally unbelievable given the health care infra difference, population density difference (which have all been used in the model as covariates anyway ) - in other words WHO'S own assumptions negate their model !!!!

The above is just one example of the amateurish model by WHO.


BTW, China's death rate reported in John Hopkins dataset used is 9 per million. Let me say it again in round numbers : USA 3000, UK 2400, India 350 , Pakistan 175ish, China 9.

This tells us that:

1. Chinese lockdowns and vaccines must be more effective than all others - by a factor of 300 over biontech et al. Current situation in China proves that is not the case. The alternate explanation is Chinese are lot more immune and lot less comorbid than westerners. This is not entirely unbelievable given obesity, food ingredients etc.

2. One of the top reasons for mortality, acknowledged after the fact by medical professionals because they learnt it later, is indiscriminate use of ventilators to not serious-enough patients. In those, ventilators ended up making the infection deadly! India et al benefitted from shortage of ventilators frankly.

Long post but the point is the WHO approach to this model is childish. They have now proven they neither know medicine, nor epidemiology, nor data science. Just a bunch of statisticians
 
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Lot what a joke. Everyone knew India was hiding deaths when tens of thousands of Indians were dying on roads and government would record would would report all is well

LOL Indeed.

It does not matter where you die, on the road or in home or in a hospital, you need a DEATH CERTIFICATE to be cremated.

And that Death Certificate needs to mention CAUSE OF DEATH signed by a Qualified DOCTOR.

India is not China where doctors need to lie.

The only place where under reporting was deliberate was West Bengal. That is the only aberration in the CoVid death rate.





What is the point of quoting foreign media ? how can they ever be more reliable than Indian media ?

Govt. had no need to "Hide" CoVId deaths because NO ONE IN INDIA votes on the bases on CoVid death statistics.

The whole assumption is laughable and totally out of touch with reality.

I just read the WHO model description. There are serious flaws, not in the statistical method or data science used but in the domain understanding itself !!! For example same set of covariates have been used for all countries - this only helps in explanation of the model but not the applicability of the model.

For example the death count per John Hopkins dataset is around 2.5k/million in UK, 3k in USA but only 200 to 500 in Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India. You can see that :
1. This 1/10 ratio is not just an Indian phenomenon but all of South Asia region. Yet covariates modeled are the same across all continents. How does WHO explain this intrinsic regionsl difference ? By saying it is due to a factor 10 under reporting!

2. Even if the actual is 10 times as reported as the estimate model says, that'd make the south Asian countries only at par with the UK USA types. Which is equally unbelievable given the health care infra difference, population density difference (which have all been used in the model as covariates anyway ) - in other words WHO'S own assumptions negate their model !!!!

The above is just one example of the amateurish model by WHO.


BTW, China's death rate reported in John Hopkins dataset used is 9 per million. Let me say it again in round numbers : USA 3000, UK 2400, India 350 , Pakistan 175ish, China 9.

This tells us that:

1. Chinese lockdowns and vaccines must be more effective than all others - by a factor of 300 over biontech et al. Current situation in China proves that is not the case. The alternate explanation is Chinese are lot more immune and lot less comorbid than westerners. This is not entirely unbelievable given obesity, food ingredients etc.

2. One of the top reasons for mortality, acknowledged after the fact by medical professionals because they learnt it later, is indiscriminate use of ventilators to not serious-enough patients. In those, ventilators ended up making the infection deadly! India et al benefitted from shortage of ventilators frankly.

Long post but the point is the WHO approach to this model is childish. They have now proven they neither know medicine, nor epidemiology, nor data science. Just a bunch of statisticians

Quite frankly, this long well researched rational explanation is wasted on idiots.
 
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And that Death Certificate needs to mention CAUSE OF DEATH signed by a Qualified DOCTOR.

India is not China where doctors need to lie.

The only place where under reporting was deliberate was West Bengal. That is the only aberration in the CoVid de
And those doctors under the influence of Indian government lied on death certificates. I'm certain 90% or the dead didn't even get death certificate.

Yes India is not China because unlike China millions died in India outside on roads waiting to get get in to hospital.

Even through international media is trillion times more credible than regime controlled godi media but just for your Ego's sake here are some Indian sources.


 
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And those doctors under the influence of Indian government lied on death certificates. I'm certain 90% or the dead didn't even get death certificate.

Yes India is not China because unlike China millions died in India outside on roads waiting to get get in to hospital.

Even through international media is trillion times more credible than regime controlled godi media but just for your Ego's sake here are some Indian sources.


Google search gyani, do you know what's a sero survey?
 
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serosurvey (June-July 2021) showed More than two-thirds of (67.6%) Indian population developed antibodies against the CoVid.

Now compare that to the deaths in India.

Its foolish of WHO to claim India would have the same deaths as US from CoVid when data shows we did not.
 
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While BD did not do great it recorded 140,000 excess deaths in 2020 and 2021.

If the turd Modi had not stopped supply of the contracted UK AstraZeneca vaccines in late March 2021, then BD would have come in at under 100,000.

serosurvey (June-July 2021) showed More than two-thirds of (67.6%) Indian population developed antibodies against the CoVid.

Now compare that to the deaths in India.

Its foolish of WHO to claim India would have the same deaths as US from CoVid when data shows we did not.



By then the damage had been done with millions of dead Indians from Covid-19 over the previous 3-4 months.

Modi has the blood of millions of Indians on his hands.
 
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doesn't matter, all you need to do is build another ram temple, put some more tilak in forehead everything will be fine.
 
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