Who does Pakistan relate to more - Asia or Middle East?

[El Sidd]

I have no il will towards anyone even though some people on here might think I hate certain groups of people based off some jokes or tongue-in-cheek comments. I think hate is a very powerful word/emotion and it's not something that is easily felt or can be ascribed to someone easily.

With that being said I actually value human bio-diversity and cultural diversity (both are intertwined). I don't believe in mish-mashing everyone up into this giant superstate of all types of people because it just doesn't work and actually takes a toll on the people's mental health.

Already we Pakistanis need a single unified identity for social cohesion. It is better to reduce the problem to a minimum rather than to add more equations to the problem and make it more complicated to solve.

We need to live. There are no mysteries that needs urgent solving .

Yeah but has Urdu alone achieved unity? I think more goes into achieving a cohesive unity than simply language itself. You have to form a full on cultural identity which includes common traditions, common struggles, and common goals, and these are just a few among the many factors that come into play.

Its been just 70 years

 

[Desert Fox]

Thats how India promotes the "Hindu culture" through bollywood.

Funny thing is even Indians/Hindus think Bollywood is degenerate with the amount of be-hayai they put out. Many of them watch Pakistanis films and dramas.

We need to live. There are no mysteries that needs urgent solving .

Okay Baba Jaan (I call you that out of respect assuming your avatar pic is you?). I think we will have to agree to disagree.

Its been just 70

Yeah it has. And things like this take time. Which is why I believe adding more equations to the mix will set as back to square one.

We have already come this far (70 years), even though that's just a blink of an eye in history but time isn't going by any faster and we don't just get to choose to rewind whenever we feel like as if it's a video cassette.

What about Egyptian dramas? Never watched that. But we could team up with them.

Also China is another alternative to team up with.

Lol bro I think we should do our own dramas (which we are doing). I'm not sure in which language the Pakistani/Turkish/Egyptian cast will communicate in with one another If it's English then the whole point of ingraining Urdu within our populace becomes moot.

 

[El Sidd]

Funny thing is even Indians/Hindus think Bollywood is degenerate with the amount of be-hayai they put out. Many of them watch Pakistanis films and dramas.


Okay Baba Jaan (I call you that out of respect assuming your avatar pic is you?). I think we will have to agree to disagree.

Yeah it has. And things like this take time. Which is why I believe adding more equations to the mix will set as back to square one.

We have already come this far (70 years), even though that's just a blink of an eye in history but time isn't going by any faster and we don't just get to choose to rewind whenever we feel like as if it's a video cassette.

We are building from scratch. Rome was never built in a day too.

We are impatient people hence corrupt politicians.

Sabne subah sikandar e azam ne uthna hai. Hosla. Sabar. Tarraqi achanak hojaegi log pagal hojaege. Bijli hai nahi thar me par 4g **** dekhte ha bache.

Sab hojaega

 

[zeeshe100]

we are south asians people of indus valley civilization we Pakistanis are the real people of south asia and indians are illegal childs of africans

 

[Desert Fox]

We are building from scratch. Rome was never built in a day too.

We are impatient people hence corrupt politicians.

Sabne subah sikandar e azam ne uthna hai. Hosla. Sabar. Tarraqi achanak hojaegi log pagal hojaege. Bijli hai nahi thar me par 4g **** dekhte ha bache.

Sab hojaega

We all want progress, but I'm sure even you will agree that progress at the cost of the nation's well being isnt exactly "progress".

Now, when we look at the Western experiment with globalization/multiculturalism it is apparent to most that this experiment is a failure.

There are ethnic, religious and racial tensions in these countries between the different groups.

Even in China between the dominant Han and the Uyghurs who view them as occupiers, there is tensions though the overwhelming power of the Chinese state keep this issue from boiling over.

Let's look at the case of the Kurds who want to secede from all four nations (Turkey, Iran, Syria & Iraq) and form Kurdistan.

Now I'm a Pakistani Nationalist and I recognize every Pakistani sub-culture and all ethno languages as a part of Pakistan. My view is that we should work within this framework to further strengthen unity among different indigenous Pakistanis rather than introduce completely Alien people who are radically different from us in every respect because it simply makes no sense to do so if our goal is social cohesion.

 

[El Sidd]

We all want progress, but I'm sure even you will agree that progress at the cost of the nation's well being isnt exactly "progress".

Now, when we look at the Western experiment with globalization/multiculturalism it is apparent to most that this experiment is a failure.

There are ethnic, religious and racial tensions in these countries between the different groups.

Even in China between the dominant Han and the Uyghurs who view them as occupiers, there is tensions though the overwhelming power of the Chinese state keep this issue from boiling over.

Let's look at the case of the Kurds who want to secede from all four nations (Turkey, Iran, Syria & Iraq) and form Kurdistan.

Now I'm a Pakistani Nationalist and I recognize every Pakistani sub-culture and all ethno languages as a part of Pakistan. My view is that we should work within this framework to further strengthen unity among different indigenous Pakistanis rather than introduce completely Alien people who are radically different from us in every respect because it simply makes no sense to do so if our goal is social cohesion.

I agree.

But i also say we need internal migrations so as to form a uniform pakistani culture.

As a pakistani i can claim ownership and perks of almost every culture. How can that ever be bad?

 

[Storm Force]

Wow what a shitty song. Who even listens to your bollywood crap lol

Ok Bro

But I BET YOU dance this at the next party

The point I'm making is Pakistan and indeed India too even a greater is not one culture or one religion or one language or even ethnic look

These sikh guys are just college kids having fun on a trip in northern india

ITS DIVERSE MAN.4

BUT hey these guys did a GREAT JOB

 

[MultaniGuy]

Ok Bro

But I BET YOU dance this at the next party

The point I'm making is Pakistan and indeed India too even a greater is not one culture or one religion or one language or even ethnic look

These sikh guys are just college kids having fun on a trip in northern india

ITS DIVERSE MAN.4

BUT hey these guys did a GREAT JOB

We Pakistanis have nothing in common with you Indians. lol.

Funny thing is even Indians/Hindus think Bollywood is degenerate with the amount of be-hayai they put out. Many of them watch Pakistanis films and dramas.


Okay Baba Jaan (I call you that out of respect assuming your avatar pic is you?). I think we will have to agree to disagree.

Yeah it has. And things like this take time. Which is why I believe adding more equations to the mix will set as back to square one.

We have already come this far (70 years), even though that's just a blink of an eye in history but time isn't going by any faster and we don't just get to choose to rewind whenever we feel like as if it's a video cassette.


Lol bro I think we should do our own dramas (which we are doing). I'm not sure in which language the Pakistani/Turkish/Egyptian cast will communicate in with one another If it's English then the whole point of ingraining Urdu within our populace becomes moot.

Its a good idea to team up with Egypt, Turkey, and China to make some movies.

Its a good counterweight to hollywood and bollywood.

 

[Storm Force]

We Pakistanis have nothing in common with you Indians. lol.


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Show me some Pakistanis perform man ......... Show me whats so different about you

Go just some kids dancing like my sikh bros there will do

OR even your Pakistani version of our Hiritik Roshan and Katrini

SHOW us THIS difference

 

[MultaniGuy]

Show me some Pakistanis perform man ......... Show me whats so different about you

Go just some kids dancing like my sikh bros there will do

OR even your Pakistani version of our Hiritik Roshan and Katrini

SHOW us THIS difference

Pakistan is coming up with some good movies.

 

[Desert Fox]

Its a good idea to team up with Egypt, Turkey, and China to make some movies.

Its a good counterweight to hollywood and bollywood.

Yes that would be a good counterweight to Bollywood and Hollywood.

I agree.

But i also say we need internal migrations so as to form a uniform pakistani culture.

As a pakistani i can claim ownership and perks of almost every culture. How can that ever be bad?

Absolutely. I agree. All of this will (& should) come naturally and must never be forced though.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Yes that would be a good counterweight to Bollywood and Hollywood.

We could work with China and Turkey & Egypt separately to form movies. Think of the potential.
Only if our leaders had any brains.

 

[El Sidd]

Absolutely. I agree. All of this will (& should) come naturally and must never be forced though

Every pakistani is a born democrat. No worries there

 

[Imad.Khan]

Its no hidden secret that bollywood is a curse. Thats how India promotes the "Hindu culture" through bollywood.

Pakistan should team up with some Middle Eastern countries to promote real Islamic culture.

That would destroy bollywood's influence.

Which middle eastern country has real Islamic culture? The reason of all this extremism in the world is because of an Islamic country trying to spread its version of Islam on other countries while cosying up to Israel at the same time. Is this the type of culture you wish to spread in Pakistan.

 

[Desert Fox]

We could work with China and Turkey & Egypt separately to form movies. Think of the potential.
Only if our leaders had any brains.

What about Iran? They have a pretty good film industry that is in line with traditional values.