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Did you know? Joe Biden’s great, great, great, great, great grandfather worked for the East India Company.

East India Company created the entire ruling elite of Britain, and the same minds spread wherever the British went. Research reveals the unacknowledged debt of the “West” to India.



Who are the Bidens in India and are they related to US President-elect Joe Biden?
Updated : November 10, 2020 09:07 PM IST

After over two decades, Joe Biden recounted that he had received a letter from a person with Biden as his last name from Mumbai.

During his visit to India in 2013, the President-elect had said, "There are five Bidens in Mumbai, India," and spoke of the letter he received in 1981.

Who are the Bidens in India and are they related to US President-elect Joe Biden?



US President-elect Joe Biden during his maiden visit to India in 2013 had mentioned his distant relatives living in Mumbai. A couple of years later, he reiterated that there were five Bidens living in Mumbai, whom he was related to. Now that 77-year-old Democrat leader is set to take oath as the 46th US President in January 2021, his Indian origin has piqued interest in who the Bidens in India are and why have they not come forward so far to confirm the President-elect's statement.

CNBC-TV18 spoke to the Bidens in Nagpur and Mumbai to find out whether are not they are related to Joe Biden and what was their correspondence with the then Senator.

Who are the Bidens in India?

Ian Biden, his sister Sonia Francis nee Biden, and their mother Angelina Biden are based in Nagpur. So is Ian and Sonia's first cousin Rowena Biden. Ian said that a letter written by his maternal grandfather Leslie Biden to Senator Joe Biden in 1981 discussed ancestors John Biden and his wife Anne Beaumont who were married in 1781.

CNBC-TV18 has a copy of the letter but is not publishing it on request.

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Leslie Biden along with his brother Arthur and his family in Surrey England. (Image: Biden family)

John and Anne had six children, one of them was Christopher Biden, born in 1789. His son was John Christopher Biden, who had a son named Colonel Horatio Biden, who had a son named Samuel Biden, whose son was Charles Horatio Biden (married to Edith Marie Biden, matron at Mayo Hospital in Nagpur).

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Charles Horatio Biden

Charles and Edith had two sons. Leslie Biden and Arthur Biden. Leslie was the person who had written to Joe Biden in April 1981, and he received a response. two weeks later.

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Edith Biden

Ian said, "Our grandfather Leslie Biden discovered the name of Joe Biden in the Illustrated Weekly of India, Vol CII Mar 28/April 4, 1981 edition 'American Expertise'. Joe Biden was a member of the US Senate at the time. Leslie wrote to Joe Biden where he discussed the Biden family tree. He received a reply from Joe Biden and they shared information regarding a common ancestor named John Biden (mentioned above) and his wife Anne Beaumont, who was of French origin."

Both thanked each other for corresponding and promised to stay in touch. However, Leslie's health deteriorated and he passed away in 1983, after which his wife Genevieve did not pursue any correspondence with the Senator.

When Joe Biden too replied, he seemed happy to have received a letter and discussed the Bidens coming to India.

After over two decades, Joe Biden recounted that he had received a letter from a person with Biden as his last name from Mumbai. It was then that he learned of his "great, great, great, great, great grandfather" had worked for the East India Company.

Family tree

  • John Biden and Annie Beaumont — Eight children Fanny (1781), Laura (1783), Beaumont (1785), Richard (1786), Henry (1788), Christopher (1789), W Henry (1791), Annie (1793).
  • Christopher and Harriet's son Colonel Horatio (son) his son Samuel (wife Augusta) son Charles Horatio (wife Edith Marie, matron of Mayo Hospital) their son's Arthur (wife Rowena) and Leslie, wife Genevieve.
  • Leslie and Genevieve’s family (four daughters and two sons). Late Edith nee Biden and Percival Lazarus (children Sherryl, Laura and Nigel). Late Charles and Angelina Biden (senior-most Biden of Nagpur, children Duncan, Ian and Sonia). Evelyn (Doel) nee Biden and Late Deepak Majumdar (daughter Tithi), Late Reuben and Shaila Biden (children Leslie and Rowena), Lilian nee Biden and Late Errol D’souza (children Erika and Lincoln), Charmaine nee Biden and Desmond Borges (children Denzil, Charline and David).
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Leslie and Genevieve Biden. (Image: Biden family)

Why is there confusion about Leslie Biden being from Mumbai?

Leslie Biden, who was the manager of Bharat Lodge and Hostel, Nagpur, and owner of the famous Palace Cafe back in the day, had visited his daughter in (then) Bombay and had posted the letter to Joe Biden from there. Since the letter bore the Bombay address, Joe Biden had believed that the Bidens were in Bombay. However, Leslie had mentioned his Nagpur address in that letter and Joe Biden had replied on that address.

During his visit to India in 2013, the President-elect had said, "There are five Bidens in Mumbai, India," and spoke of the letter he received in 1981.

What do the Bidens in India have to say?

"We have been silent so far as we did not want to come to the limelight. Moreover, there were reports in the media where facts were distorted. Although we may be connected through our ancestry, each one of us has a rich background of our own," said Sonia, one of the 14th grandchild of the late Leslie Biden, who could be connected to the president-elect through their mutual great, great, great, great, great grandfather.

"We are blessed that our ancestors settled down in India (Chennai, Hyderabad, Pune and Nagpur). We are proud to be Indians," said Ian, seconded by Sonia and Rowena.

On Joe Biden, they said, "We have no claims and we make none. We just want to share accurate information."

Is Joe Biden related to the Bidens in India?

The letters between Leslie Biden and Joe Biden suggest that they may have the same "great, great, great, great, great grandfather" -- John Biden -- who the Bidens in Nagpur are descendants of.

"Although we know our family tree and our grandfather's letter to Joe Biden, we are not claiming that we are related to the president-elect. Moreover, we have relatives who are across the world including India, UK, New Zealand, Australia and the US, we are not sure if we all share the same ancestry to that of Joe Biden," said Ian.

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The Biden's from India and abroad in Nagpur attend a family wedding. (Image: The Biden family)

"As of now, we are four cousins and our children who share the Biden surname," he added.

When asked if the Bidens from India or around the world planned to visit the US for Joe Biden's inauguration in January, they said, "One of the primary reasons we are speaking today is because multiple media reports have suggested things that we never said. We spoke within the family and wanted to set the record straight. As far as going to the US for the inauguration is concerned, our heartfelt wishes are with him."


 
Did you know? Joe Biden’s great, great, great, great, great grandfather worked for the East India Company.

East India Company created the entire ruling elite of Britain, and the same minds spread wherever the British went. Research reveals the unacknowledged debt of the “West” to India.

So POTUS's ancestor was one of the white master administering India and he's got white master blood running through his veins?! F*cking amazing bro! Every Indian must be overjoyed knowing this. :-)

Time to dump Trump statue?
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So POTUS's ancestor was one of the white master administering India and he's got white master blood running through his veins?! F*cking amazing bro! Every Indian must be overjoyed knowing this. :-)

Time to dump Trump statue?
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Why are you sporting a Turkish flag ? Are you a great admirer of Ataturk and Turkey ?

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Why are you sporting a Turkish flag ?

New documents reveal Turkey' founder Ataturk brought chemical warfare from Nazi Germany (1937) to use against Kurdish Alevi civilians of Dersim. Turkish dictator Ataturk killed ten thousands of civilians in Dersim, Kurdistan in 1937-38

Forget Ataturk, we're here to celebrate Biden's East India company ancestry. It's a moment to celebrate, cheers man! :cheers:
 
Forget Ataturk, we're here to celebrate Biden's East India company ancestry. It's a moment to celebrate, cheers man! :cheers:

LOL. Why do you want to forget your hero Ataturk ?

You do sport a Turkish flag, don't you ? :cheers:

Poisonous gas bought from Nazi Germany were: Sulfur mustard (iperit), Phenacyl chloride (chloroacetophenone).

Documents show, Ataturk orders poisonous gas to be transported to Elaziz (Elazig) to be used against civilians in Dersim, Kurdistan.

In 1937, Ataturk proved to Hitler that killing civilians with poisonous gas is "not a crime" and then Hitler walked in his path and did exactly the same to Jewish people in Germany. Kemal Ataturk gassed Alevi Kurds in caves of Dersim, Hitler gassed jews in chambers of Auschwitz..

Here is a photo of a Turkish soldier replacing Hitler's German flag with Turkish flag on Heinkel He-111 bomber aircraft.Nazi Germany delivered first aircrafts (24 He 111F-1s) in 1937. Chemical attacks of Dersim carried out by the same Heinkel aircrafts .

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Ataturk’s adopted daughter, one of the pilots that flew over Dersim as the Turkish air force dropped gas on the Kurdish population. She has an Istanbul airport named after her in honour of her role as Turkey’s 1st woman fighter pilot.

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Dersim Massacre of 1937-38 has been described as a genocide with more than 40,000 killed. 1000s were forced from their homes and children were taken from their families, given to foster parents across Turkey cutting them off from their roots as part of an ethnic cleansing initiative.

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Surely Trump is nowhere close to your HERO.
 
LOL. Why do you want to forget your hero Ataturk ?

You do sport a Turkish flag, don't you ? :cheers:

Poisonous gas bought from Nazi Germany were: Sulfur mustard (iperit), Phenacyl chloride (chloroacetophenone).

Documents show, Ataturk orders poisonous gas to be transported to Elaziz (Elazig) to be used against civilians in Dersim, Kurdistan.

In 1937, Ataturk proved to Hitler that killing civilians with poisonous gas is "not a crime" and then Hitler walked in his path and did exactly the same to Jewish people in Germany. Kemal Ataturk gassed Alevi Kurds in caves of Dersim, Hitler gassed jews in chambers of Auschwitz..

Here is a photo of a Turkish soldier replacing Hitler's German flag with Turkish flag on Heinkel He-111 bomber aircraft.Nazi Germany delivered first aircrafts (24 He 111F-1s) in 1937. Chemical attacks of Dersim carried out by the same Heinkel aircrafts .

D6OsPNiUEAAJM9X


Ataturk’s adopted daughter, one of the pilots that flew over Dersim as the Turkish air force dropped gas on the Kurdish population. She has an Istanbul airport named after her in honour of her role as Turkey’s 1st woman fighter pilot.

D6OyvwOUcAAHuk7


Dersim Massacre of 1937-38 has been described as a genocide with more than 40,000 killed. 1000s were forced from their homes and children were taken from their families, given to foster parents across Turkey cutting them off from their roots as part of an ethnic cleansing initiative.

D6O1xKvUEAAcjO8



Surely Trump is nowhere close to your HERO.

Ataturk is surely not in Biden's league having no East India company pedigree.
 
Why are you sporting a Turkish flag ? Are you a great admirer of Ataturk and Turkey ?

New documents reveal Turkey' founder Ataturk brought chemical warfare from Nazi Germany (1937) to use against Kurdish Alevi civilians of Dersim. Turkish dictator Ataturk killed ten thousands of civilians in Dersim, Kurdistan in 1937-38

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Are you going to erect his ling too in middle of your slum?
 
Are you going to erect his ling too in middle of your slum?

Here is a quiz for you, who wrote the following ?

"It is a matter of great honour for me to be present here to pay homage to one of the greatest statesmen and visionary leaders of the 20th century – Ghazi Mustafa Kemal Ataturk," :agree:

hint - ik.
 
Here is a quiz for you, who wrote the following ?

"It is a matter of great honour for me to be present here to pay homage to one of the greatest statesmen and visionary leaders of the 20th century – Ghazi Mustafa Kemal Ataturk," :agree:

hint - ik.
Mustafa kemal was ultimate Chad for teaching those recalcitrant Kurds a lesson they will find Very hard to forget.
I love him.
Now that being Said, the Brits did far more worse things in India but still it didn't stop Indians from bending over backwards and talking ling of White lords.
Now buzz off subhuman, don't you have a Trump ling to suck off?
 
Mustafa kemal was ultimate Chad for teaching those recalcitrant Kurds a lesson they will find Very hard to forget.
I love him.
Now that being Said, the Brits did far more worse things in India but still it didn't stop Indians from bending over backwards and talking ling of White lords.
Now buzz off subhuman, don't you have a Trump ling to suck off?

So the GENOCIDE of Kurds using Poison Gas is considered acceptable and normal by pakistanis.

I hope I can take your post to represent the average pakistani.

No wonder your PM admires this "Gazi" so much. Its a shame Kurds are not muslims.
 
So that is why Ataturk is your hero and not Biden ? :azn:

Who is my hero is irrelevant for your celebration of Biden's East India company pedigree. Oh what a joy for you fellas! The world envies India's ability to derive such joy from historical servitude. :)
Mustafa kemal was ultimate Chad for teaching those recalcitrant Kurds a lesson they will find Very hard to forget.
I love him.
Now that being Said, the Brits did far more worse things in India but still it didn't stop Indians from bending over backwards and talking ling of White lords.
Now buzz off subhuman, don't you have a Trump ling to suck off?

Ignore his off topic rants. Just help him celebrate the focus of this thread, POTUS's deep historical bonds with India that all Indians cherish eternally. :)
 
Who is my hero is irrelevant for your celebration of Biden's East India company pedigree. Oh what a joy for you fellas! The world envies India's ability to derive such joy from historical servitude. :)

LOL. It is Biden who is deriving joy from his discover of roots in India.

Makes you wonder why he chose Kamala :azn:

Ignore his off topic rants. Just help him celebrate the focus of this thread, POTUS's deep historical bonds with India that all Indians cherish eternally. :)

And here I thought pakistanis were rejoicing trump lost and biden will deliver them to paradise. :lol:
 

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