Who are the Arain?

[newb3e]

indians are ugly baboons and cant be aryans.

 

[Crusher]

Arian were small scale farmers, in Gujranwala/Sialkot/Gujrat area they were mostly "Mazara" or "Marusi" peasants working on contract of crop sharing with the Jatt Zamindars who were the landlords in these areas. Sometimes if an Arain became richer he could buy his own land also but usually it was petty landholding of few acres. Also on their own Arain were mostly cultivators of vegetables/Fruits where as Jatts were mostly cultivators of big crops like wheat/rice in our areas. However tenant arain peasants used to cultivate wheat/rice also but mostly as tenants/crop sharing basis in Gujranwala/Sialkot areas. In indian punjab the situation was different where people calling themselves "Arain" often had big landholdings which was unheard of in Gujranwala/Gujrat/Sialkot areas pre-1947. Maybe it has to do with Adeena baig khan (Deenu Arain from Sheikhupura) who rose to power in18th century for some time and took a lot of his Arain kinsmen with him and settled them in Eastern punjab and probably gave them lands there.

 

[Maxpane]

so where are we from?

 

[Dubious]

so where are we from?

22 pages of PDF

Maybe downloaded

 

[Maxpane]

22 pages of PDF

Maybe downloaded

but i got nothing wich could give concrete answer

 

[Dubious]

but i got nothing wich could give concrete answer

hence we were downloaded

 

[Khan_patriot]

Whats with all these ethno-linguitic threads on pdf lately. I know this thread is a fossil but who gives a shit about race/language when we have far serious things to worry about.

 

[Wa Muhammada]

@Dubious

Re. Halal nightclub

I admit my comments were quite.... ‘frank’ - but being a ghairatmand old school Punjabi, it’s hard to hold back amongst such fitna.

Song yaad bhi rakha tu Madam Noor Jahan ka lolss
Lots of her song in Punjabi even i am not allowed in home to listen
i personaly like buley shah

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Is this the Matrix?

 

[JonAsad]

Arain are emotional black mailers -
Specially lambay araion say bach k rehna..

 

[Wa Muhammada]

Sir, my nana always lived in Lyallpur, nani came from Jalandhar. Dada was always from Saiwaal, but daddi was from Gurdaspur. Actually daddi was born in Saiwaal, her parents went to Gurdaspur, and then they came back during partition. Great Grandmother was a Kashmiri from the valley. Great grandfather, Hussein Baksh was a Kashmiri from Jammu.

You tell me. My nana was a rich guy, even If he was illiterate. He owned 3-6 horses in the times that people used to walk for their baarat..

@Chak Bamu you are not an Arain, but a Jatt.

My dada was from Jalandhar too and my dadi from Ludhiana. May Allah ta’ala bless their graves

I am not trying to raise an issue here. When I first said that I don't care about this, it was because I consider myself a Muslim first. Pakistani a close second, and everything else is afterwards. You should appreciate your Jatt ancestry, but I come from Arains. We did not have converts in my lineage. I am proud of my people, but I am not looking down on anyone else. I respect Jatts, Awan, Gujjar, and Rajputs. All are my equal. To be honest, I don't really immerse myself in these types of threads, but I figured that we Arains deserve at least one thread too. Arains are not jahil people, we are very religious. These kind of things are small talk to us, but I was just curious about Arain origins.

Yes and no ...many Arians are now becoming more liberal and away from deen ...

 

[Well.wisher]

The ones I met were really freaky and mean.

 

[Wa Muhammada]

a rains could be the original punjabis perhaps??
btw whats the gujjar origins?

Re.Gujjars

I heard in a lecture that they were Hindu who reverted to Islam.

Getting land as compensation for military service don't prove anything, many locals also joined Qasim's army. The ones who try to find out Arab origin can't provide anything to support other than pointing to book by a Britisher (forgot his name) which is not reliable or saying that look all Arain are Sunnis which is also not correct. But on other hand there are enough evidences that suggest that people have been part of local population as far as you can digg history.

Arains were sunni and only recently became Deogandi and Ahle Hadees etc

I suspect so myself. It could be a copy-cat operation. People calling themselves Arain to hide seemingly inferior origins. Or it could be a linguistic accident. Another theory could be that some people could have been converted under duress. But then Muslims typically do not accept that. One forum member @Butchcassidy has ancestors who were Muslims from around Narowal and converted to Sikhism few generations back. I am not saying that he is an Arain or something, just pointing out.

Agree abt some ppl calling themselves Arain to mask the fact that they are ‘kammi’.....you may have heard this a million times but Arains can be easily recognised due to their humble demeanour

Is it true Arain are just like sheikhs?- very kanjoos?-

And and

Arain and Khokhars are mortal enemies?-

My experience with Khokars has not been good...most of them have been from Multan-Muzaffarghar-Jhang region and they are pindu and not trustworthy at all

Is it true Arain are just like sheikhs?- very kanjoos?-

And and

Arain and Khokhars are mortal enemies?-

Arain families tend to save a lot .... that’s different from being kanjoos. I’v never known ppl count their fingers after shaking hands with an Arain- only with Sheikhs

My family came to Punjab from Afghanistan long time ago.

Jadran - Jatland Wiki

According to my online research, I'm related to the Haqqanis !!!

We’v got a lot of ‘Jandran’ tribe in my hometown - is that the same as Jadran?

Salam to all. There is some misconceptions about the Arain people of Pakistan. Lot of people think that Arain r the locals of indian subcontinent and this is not correct. Also there is no Hindu or Sikh or Budh Arain in this world. One could check indian census record, will not found any single Arain having Hindu or Sikh or Budhish faith. There are some Rai people in Pakistan and india. These Rais are the clan of Rajputs and Arains are totally different than these Rai Rajputs. Arain are the descendants of those Arab tribes who entered in indian subcontinent accompanying Umayyad general, Muhammad Bin Qasim in 711 A.D. in the reign of Umayyad chilaphate. There were several well known Arab tribes i.e. Banu Asad, banu Umayya, banu Tamim, Banu Kalb, Banu Sama, banu Aziz, banu Saleem, Banu Himyar. The fighters of these tribes had defeated Raja Dahir of Sindh. They were permanently settled in subcontinent. The detailed history of the Arains could be found in their historic books like Tareekh e Araian. Tareekh e Araian is written by the references of Chach nama, Tareekh Masumi and Tareekh Farishta. There is detail history in these books about the town Areeha, about Muhammad Bin Qasim, and about the Arab fighter tribes who accompanied bin Qasim. According to these historic books they were known as Areehai due having their roots from a town in modern Palistine "Areeha" Jericho and some were known to be Al Raees that later to b known as Arain. Several Arain families are continue to follow up their Arabic traditions and write their Arabic teritorial names like Amani, Saleemi, Shaami and Hijazi. Naseem Hijazi the well known Islamic historian was also an Arain. If some body is interested to know about the detailed history of Arains tgen he/she may get the Tareekh e Araian, a history book related to the history of Arains. The actual history if Arain could also be found in "Aina e Haqikat Numa", a relaible history books written by well known historian of Subcontinent Moulana Akbar Shah Khan Najeebabadi. In "Aina e Haqikat Numa", the author Moulana Najeebabadi has also mentioned history of some other casts and tribes of Subcontinent. Moulana Najeebadai is also the author of another well known book, "Tareekh e Islam" translated in English as "The history of Islam". Arain have produced great military men like General Zia Ul Haq, a great general in the history of Pakistan Army who had imposed martial law for eleven years in the country. Even according to some resources Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto wad also Arain. Arain is a Martial race and Pakistan Army have good consideration of Arain men. In British time too Arain were considered to be a martial race but their was a small transition where Arain were not favoured for the British army and its due to freedom fighter Moulana Shah Abdul Qadir Ludhianvi who was also an Arain, gave fatwa against British colonial rule and rose his power against British. But Arain once again had proved their potential availabilities and the restriction from the army was removed. British were started to recruit Arain again for the Army. In world war 2 my grandfather had served British Army and there were resealable Arains at that time too in British army. Arain are also the well recognized agriculturists, between 1906 to 1940, 86% of the agricultural tracts were allotted to Muslim Arain tribes all over the Punjab and Sindh. Arain have also proved themselves as industrialist and have produced great sportsmen like Wasim Akram the king of swing and the proud name of Pakistan field hockey team like Shehbaz Senior.

Awesome!

 

[Dubious]

I admit my comments were quite.... ‘frank’ - but being a ghairatmand old school Punjabi, it’s hard to hold back amongst such fitna.

Relax....We wont be asked for how they run their country! We should just concentrate on ourselves even that is a task these days!

 

[Dual Wielder]

@Dubious

Can you sum up these 22 pages of data in 50 words or less.. thanks

 

[Dubious]

@Dubious

Can you sum up these 22 pages of data in 50 words or less.. thanks

It is not my thread nor the job of a mod to spoonfeed you..