White House Set to Sell New Fighter Jets to Pakistan in Bid to Bolster Partnership

[batmannow]

Hi,

There are no such aircraft in the inventory of that category---all the F16 have been upgraded---the Jordanian one were upgraded by the jordanians awhile back----. The fleet is in full operation---and these will be additions----.

If the congress does not approve of them----then the J10C is ready to fill in the hole.

The F16 give the U S leverage over Pakistan----. If the U S lets that last leverage go----it won't help the cause.

Plus it is of utmost importance that the U S has support of Pakistan to resolve the afghan issue that is at a critical stage.



Hi,

Well---they think it is the indian congress in Washington---.

If their dam Congress is OK with the deal , we should get it & then we should get $u-35 so the so called leverege of USA , can break down for once & all ?

 

[mzeeshanfahd]

these 25 odd block will not prevent war out break as Indian will still feel that they can get away with their cold start doctrine but with tactical nukes they will fear nuclear war that might follow cold start and will think thousand time before launching it.
key point here is deterrence and nasr will do it much better then f 16 block 60 we don't need to launch nasr to stop cold start we just need to have it that alone will do the job while if we give them away then India will have window (no matter how small) to launch cold start.

ahhh ....nice ........... I have like minded here as well...... read my above post its same thing dubbed in different words...

 

[Paksanity]

8 F-16 is most likely replacement for lost F-16 over the years. Just to make up the numbers. There is nothing sensational about it. US is using it so as to improve the atmosphere during Nawaz-Obama meet. Consider the news as a room freshener if you will. It is neither a lollipop nor an attempt to block other defense acquisitions of Pakistan. It is just an appeasement. Enjoy the moment while it lasts.

For those who are bashing F-16 without knowledge, please read about what newer F-16s can do. It is a formidable beast and can rip through hostile environment at present and in future.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

More BS from the americans. Why do we need to have a relationship with them? They never give us anything beneficial or useful. They are meaningless and irrelevant to us as we are to them

 

[graphican]

Not welcomed.

 

[Mughal-Prince]

I would say

120 F-16s At least block 52+ or least half of them V.
60 Su-35 PN Customised Pakistani Version in batches of 12 so we can induct them slow and easy which may not affect our pockets for other projects.
240 JFT as they are evolving and they all should be fully controlled by us like if we are buying any system for these birds we must get them with tot or licence manufacturing with rights of editing as we like similar to Grifo or KLJ deal.
180 J-10 with F-117 FN UPG a 36000-lbs thrust variant with improved fuel efficiency in progress which may also part of Su-35 deal, as well as with full european avionics with transfer of technology which almost every other firm is keen to make a deal with us now a days.

That's not just a wish list it's very realistic in todays scenario because we have sufficient funds and resources are abundant to us, just all we need is a visionary and willing person to take a step in.

They have dump us several times...

Raiding Abbottabad.

Probable we are involved in it and that's are irrefutable comments are present here at PDF, and what they find there ??

Drones Strikes inside Pakistan and violating our sovereignty. (Many innocent killed which were not Terrorists).

Bullsh!t! it's not without our consent

Putting Sanction on us (While we stupidly fight their cold war with Russia).

Ok that's the point but it's 23 years back and they officially accept that they made a mistake but again we have to play our cards right its up to us.

Signing Civil Nuclear Deal with India.

So ??? We don't need to b!tch about it they are a free country its actually us who have to create opportunities and who knows whats going on behind the curtains

Offering Indian more advance F-16 IN simply to Neutralize Pakistan.

Hahahaha it has nothing to do with neutralizing Pakistan you have no idea how things works. I would rather say that would be a treat to us if India ever got trapped in USA aircraft deal ever they have no Idea how it all works after sales. Infact they would be caught from their balls .

Not Trusting Our Nuclear program and doing lame Propaganda.

Oooh please STFU we are not angels.

Attack Salala Check post and killing 24 Pakistani Troops and Sending One AC-130 Gunship and Two F-15E Eagle 1.6 miles inside Pakistan border just to challenge Pakistan.

So you can make a befitting reply and you have the resources even that time to kick their arss but you didn't ... Believe me that is 100% true.

etc etc etc........

Many Reason to dump them . "IF YOU GOT ALLIES LIKE THOSE WHO NEED ENEMIES".

You don't need to sit any ones lap and fondle and bitching the world has been changed you play your card they play there's no need to expect anything that's how things works but people of Pakistan won't understand. Just play your cards right no need to sleep with anyone.

 

[The Vicious Kind]

Buying up more f-16s, has nothing to do with the pursuing of Su35s. We can still get Su35s. Many of posters here seem to be bit cynical about our purchase of F-16s. The blk-52s are still a real beast, no wonder countries like Turkey, Israel, Egypt,UAE are purchasing more of these babies. I think in the next couple of years we will receive 14 ex-embargoed f-16 + 8 f-16blk 52. Taking the total number to 98 based on 6 squadrons.

 

[Beethoven]

For those who are bashing F-16 without knowledge, please read about what newer F-16s can do. It is a formidable beast and can rip through hostile environment at present and in future.

You hit the nail on the head bro.....I simply don't understand why so much negativity against this beautiful machine???...Agreed 8 is not a big number heck it ain't even a squadron but something is better than nothing and quite frankly this was expected after our Chief's visit to Washington remember

One more thing posters seem to confuse the acquisition of Su-35 with the -16's....Su-35's if acquired will not be more than 2 squadrons and its prime role would be to ensure maritime security....-16's are currently the high end of our air force and will remain till J-31 arrives...

 

[massattack]

Take them but stay with SU-35s deal and dump US , WE DON'T NEED BACKSTABBERS !!!!!

you read my mind... except for the apache heli's if they offer and vipers which they have offered and f18s for upgrading our jf-16s to jf18s

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Another Lollipop from Uncle Sam.... PAF should have gone for Su-35....

 

[Wanderlust]

F-16 C/D 52+ plus we are talking the most advance and capable jet in PAF inventory.

arent all our jets 2nd gen?

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Go for Su-35 US is playing a game here Give F-16 to PAF so that they wont get close to Russia....

 

[Maarkhoor]

arent all our jets 2nd gen?

Kid change your flags
All of our jet 4th gen even F7 PG'S with new radar and avionics easily counted on 4th gen.

 

[Beethoven]

arent all our jets 2nd gen?

Do some research please......

 

[Wanderlust]

Kid change your flags
All of our jet 4th gen even F7 PG'S with new radar and avionics easily counted on 4th gen.

okay.. Im not much aware... thanks for rude comments