Which stop gap fighter would you prefer for TurAF?

[UkroTurk]

surprisingly dumb to buy F-15s or F-18s or even F-16s when the US has refused to sell F-35s. As if in the last minute they won't block the sale or have bugs that will ensure the aircraft aren't combat capable when the US deems them to be so.

But they still support AMRAAM there isnt any block. Türkiye had been accepted as a partner into f35 project, usa hadnt had hostility until Türkiye purchased s400.
We keep flying with F16s, skorskies, chinook and many made in USA aircrafts, Yankees keep supplying our planes. There hasnt been any block.

 

[AerospaceTech]

All proposal fighters are in case TurAF needs.
Guys calm down and dream . Aren't you taking yourselves too serious.
We all aren't TurAF Generals either undersecretar of defense industry.
We all are heavily unemployed slaves of defence.pk.

If you offered F15 Silent Eagle here in this forum, noone would purchase it immediately tomorrow according your order
I am not placing an order on the behalf of TurAF. I am just saying if there weren't any f35s and TurAF needed some new fighters, limited production of F15 silent eagle would be great.

However if you care about money, tell them to stop kanal istanbul and support refugees.

I am not taking it too seriously. I wanted just to warn people who discuss a dream.
It is a dream but it causes fight between us.

 

[Armchair]

But they still support AMRAAM there isnt any block. Türkiye had been accepted as a partner into f35 project, usa hadnt had hostility until Türkiye purchased s400.
We keep flying with F16s, skorskies, chinook and many made in USA aircrafts, Yankees keep supplying our planes. There hasnt been any block.

But brother, what happens if there is a block?

And when was the last time Turkey bought F-16s?

There is an unofficial block on selling Turkey anything that is important or sensitive. Including from some European countries.

Why do Turks have to sit and wait until the head gets chopped off before moving the head? Really...

 

[dBSPL]

The first thing to do is to make the logistics chain of the existing F-16 fleets safer and start the modernization/localization program expected for years. Then:

Close term: Hurjet
Medium term: Hurjet B-2 (It may be in a new variant with dual engines. Or it could be a variant with single more powerful engine and less structural changes.)
Long term: MMU

Supportal concepts and systems
- Enhancing Network-centric combat capabilities
- Swarm capabilities under non-gps enviroments and long range attack systems like Kargu etc.
- EW drones, pods and wingmans
- Göksungur, MIUS, etc.
and so on...

Unfortunately, there are only US/EU systems on this survey which are actually fully dependent to US logistics.

 

[UkroTurk]

But brother, what happens if there is a block?

And when was the last time Turkey bought F-16s?

There is an unofficial block on selling Turkey anything that is important or sensitive. Including from some European countries.

Why do Turks have to sit and wait until the head gets chopped off before moving the head? Really...

If the USA blocked Türkiye , We couldnt use any F16s today. F35 deal is exception due to political mistakes made by wise and clever histerics.

Thanks for supporting F15+F15Se+F15X we reached 19 votes.

 

[UkroTurk]

Are Germans stupid buying old american fighter instead of EF ?

By the way Building a “stealthy” Super Hornet has been one of Trump’s talking points since he was elected to the presidency.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Are Germans stupid buying old american fighter instead of EF ?

Germans don't buy American military defense products because they're stupid, they buy them because they have to. You see, Germany has been under constant US military occupation ever since the Nazis lost in WW2. There are currently over 40,000 US troops stationed there in many bases throughout the country. Supposedly they guard Germany from Russia.... Yersen tabi.... So, Germany has no choice but to obey the Americans. Just ask @Bismarck

 

[Bismarck]

The possible choice to buy U.S planes is not made by military’s. It’s more a political decision.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

The possible choice to buy U.S planes is not made by military’s. It’s more a political decision.

I keep my fingers crossed that our old WW1 ally Germany will one day break its chains from "US captivity in its own land", and again become truly independent. Möge Gott mit deinem Volk sein.

 

[Bismarck]

Independence is a double-edged sword. Think about it.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Independence is a double-edged sword. Think about it.

Oh, come on Bismarck. You're making Otto turn in his grave.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Independence is a double-edged sword. Think about it.

Don't mind him. He think he's the smartest person alive while showing no sign of intelligence... Just say yes to everything he says...

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Don't mind him. He think he's the smartest person alive while showing no sign of intelligence... Just say yes to everything he says...

It seems ColKedisi is wanting me to pat his back again. Gel pisi pisi.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

It seems ColKedisi is wanting me to pat his back again. Gel pisi pisi.

Kendinden beklenen davranışları sergiliyorsun zaten. Merak etme senin seviyene inmeyeceğim ama en azından başkalarının zamanlarını kendi saçmalıklarınla çalma oldman. İlgi istiyorsan seni bakımevinde ziyaret ederiz zaten...

 

[Bismarck]

Don't mind him. He think he's the smartest person alive while showing no sign of intelligence... Just say yes to everything he says...

I respect him and his opinion. Even I dont agree or like it.

Kendinden beklenen davranışları sergiliyorsun zaten. Merak etme senin seviyene inmeyeceğim ama en azından başkalarının zamanlarını kendi saçmalıklarınla çalma oldman. İlgi istiyorsan seni bakımevinde ziyaret ederiz zaten...

In english please.