Which Muslim nation has the best trained Military?

[Aepsilons]

Trained its definately Pakistan no one else even comes close not even Turkey and Bangladesh is far far away

Both are inheritors of two great Empires. The Turks are the descendants of the Ottoman Empire. Pakistan being the inheritor of the Mughal Empire.....Both have a glorious military history.

 

[Kompromat]

Both are inheritors of two great Empires. The Turks are the descendants of the Ottoman Empire. Pakistan being the inheritor of the Mughal Empire.....Both have a glorious military history.

You just sparked the gasoline canister, good luck

 

[jaunty]

Pakistan being the inheritor of the Mughal Empire

This will make a lot of people happy here. Exhibit 1 ^^^^

 

[Aepsilons]

You just sparked the gasoline canister, good luck

I even remember reading that Turks served under the first Mughal Emperor, Zahir-ud-din Muhammad Babur the Great.

In the height of the Mughal Empire's power, her Zenith was so large , that it was the richest Empire at the time due to its administrative ability .

Mughal Empire was even larger than the Ottoman Empire.....

This will make a lot of people happy here. Exhibit 1 ^^^^

It is. Since the army of Emperor Babur the Great were central Asians as well as conscripts from present day Pakistan.

They literally subdued the Rajputs , who became their allies and helped conquer the whole of the Indian subcontinent .

 

[-SINAN-]

even remember reading that Turks served under the first Mughal Emperor, Zahir-ud-din Muhammad Babur the Great.
In the height of the Mughal Empire's power, her Zenith was so large , that it was the richest Empire at the time due to its administrative ability .
Mughal Empire was even larger than the Ottoman Empire...

Mughals are Turkic....our kin.

Also Ottoman Empire was bigger than Mughal Empire.
List of largest empires - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Aepsilons]

Mughals are Turkic....our kin.

Babur was Turkic in language, but he was a Mongol by blood.

The founding Emperors of the Mughal Dynasty then intermarried with the daughters of the Rajas who swore fealty under them.

You can say, the later Mughal Emperors such as Shah Jahan were already mixed. They would have looked like preset day Pakistani men in Karachi or Lahore.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Both are inheritors of two great Empires. The Turks are the descendants of the Ottoman Empire. Pakistan being the inheritor of the Mughal Empire.....Both have a glorious military history.

Pakistani army could have been 100 times better.

unfortunately our educated urban elite from Lahore and Karachi keep on distracting it from its true place on global stage.

Why?

Our educated urban elite from Lahore and Karachi have been trying very hard to turn this secular institution into an Islamist institution.

PA has hurt itself in the name of Kashmir.

1965 shenanigans in kashmir robbed us from vibrant economy and global role.

And 1971 practically killed PA's fighting spirit.

However those wars are behind us. The last big name general from pre-1971 war fiasco days (Gen. Kiyani) has retired.

Gen. Rahil is now the new and true face of vibrant and confident PA.

Even now few politicians are $tpid enough to drag army into political affairs, without realizing that PA should never be pulled into politician's game of throne.

it hurts PA big time, within Pakistan and internationally.

 

[Jaggu]

Mughals are Turkic....our kin.

Also Ottoman Empire was bigger than Mughal Empire.
List of largest empires - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But Mughal empire was richer

 

[Aepsilons]

But Mughal empire was richer

The Richest. The Mughal Empire also had excellent centralized government. They perfected the tax system.

Not to mention how Mughal Emperors were great at infrastructure building such as roads, regional forts.

 

[FaujHistorian]

The Richest. The Mughal Empire also had excellent centralized government. They perfected the tax system.

Not to mention how Mughal Emperors were great at infrastructure building such as roads, regional forts.

Moghal downfall came due to two major factors.

1. utter lack of succession policies
2. Shah Jehan's stupid wars in Central Asia.

Succession wars and Central Asian wars truly drained government's finances.

 

[Azeri440]

Indonesia, simply because they don't have conscription.

 

[INDIC]

Pakistan being the inheritor of the Mughal Empire.....Both have a glorious military history.

other movement Pakistanis will tell you difference between Indus Valley and Ganga Valley.

 

[FaujHistorian]

other movement Pakistanis will tell you difference between Indus Valley and Ganga Valley.

Ganga Valley politicians brought down Moghal era mosque and killed 2000 Muslims in riots.

India's ruling party now was the main instigator and sloganeer against Moghal inheritance.

Thus the difference.

Hope you understand.

 

[TejasMk3]

the richest Empire at the time due to its administrative ability .

The sub continent was already rich, in fact the richest area in the world way before the mughals.

Voted for our Bangladesh!

 

[FaujHistorian]

The sub continent was already rich, in fact the richest area in the world way before the mughals.

compared to whom?

Specific regions / ruling dynasties please.