Which Islamic country is the strongest missile power?

[The Last of us]

Iranian missiles are pretty useless with that Patriot missiles in Turkey. Iran won't be able to use it against Israel and if Iran uses any missiles against Turkey it will be the last missiles it used. I don't see why this discussion has to drag on this much. Missile tech is only a small part of the decisiveness of an army. There are much more important aspects of an army.

Your German owned patriot missile will not even be able to stop scud c's never mind sejill-2 solid fuel ballistic missile or newer Iranian ballistic missile with cluster and MIRV warheads or anti radiation ballistic missile designed specifically for taking out anti air defences. Your air defences are a joke dude just like your missile forces.

 

[Serpentine]

@Serpentine bro,

You can see from my posts that I keep asking for a technical and real comparison. I have stated some portion of Iran's missile capability and I am asking those who are claiming Pakistan is ahead of Iran to show us why this is the case. But as we can see, they have yet to provide a shred of evidence.

There is no doubt Iran is considerably more advanced than Pakistan in missile technology. If our Pakistani friends disagree then they can tell us why.

I have no problems admitting to the truth. Just like I will not hesitate to say Pakistan has a more modern air force.

No problem, that's your opinion and I respect that.

The only thing I am asking is, instead having a fight or using inappropriate language, it's better if we post pics/facts/ data, while respecting the other side as much as possible.

I mean sentences like: "Iran is better without doubt/Pakistan is much better" and then refusing to post information not only will not help, but it'll start a piss contest.

So, I think it's better if you can posts pics/videos/data, while Pakistani members should do the same, hence we can have a good discussion.

PS: And let's stop quoting trolls and infamous members who come here with an agenda, the more you ignore them, better it is.

 

[like_a_boss]

Patriot missiles and radar system

it seems u forgot last blackout

 

[scythian500]

You are a broken record aren't you. Iran is vastly superior because Iran saids so, where as rest of the world considers your claims at par with North Korea. Indeed Iranians are so sure of their tech, that is why they still needed Russian SAMS to protect them. Like Kim Jong, Iran can make claims to have a cruise missile that can fly in Space and reach its target on the moon. But in reality just like North Korea, empty claims to calm puny Persian egos. Now carry on ranting about "SUPERIOR" Iranian missile technology with ICBM's and MRV's.

stop your non sense...you said Iran is not superior.. back it up with facts...
you claimed Iranian weapons are photoshop..ok, you got your response... The mass ballistic launch photoshop responded by its original VIDEO... the Damavand peak and a photoshop F-313 is also known to be a work of trolls... Iran never claimed to had that flight...

Now, if you still are genuine please list of top missiles of Pakistan and Turkey and its par Iranian ones... otherwise, go play with your toys and leave the thread... Don't come up with more BS... can you prove your points with facts? If non.. please spare us from more BS

 

[scythian500]

Let's list some of Iranian top Missiles here and I ask Pakistani or Turk friends to list theirs for comparison:

Medium range (MRBM)[edit]
Medium range missiles are considered to have a range between 1000 and 3000 kilometers.

• Shahab-3A/B/C - strategic MRBM with a range of 1,200 km to 2,100 km.
• Ghadr-110 MRBM with a range of 2000–3000 km.[74]
• Ashoura missile 2 stage solid fuel MRBM with a range of 2,000 km.[75]
• Sejjil 2-stage solid fuel MRBM with a range of 2000–2500 km.
• Fajr-3 MIRV warhead with a range of 2000-2500 km

Short range (SRBM)[edit]
Short range missiles are considered to have a range up to 1000 kilometers.

• Shahab-1 - Tactical SRBM with a range of 350 km. Copy of Soviet SS-1C/Scud-B[76]
• Shahab-2 - Tactical SRBM with a range of 750 km. Copy of Soviet SS-1D/Scud-C[77]
• Naze'at - Unguided rocket series.
• Fateh-110 - single-stage solid-propellant SRBM with a range of 200 km
• Zelzal 1/2/3/3B - Single-stage SRBM with a range of 200 to 400 km[78][79][80]
• Qiam 1 - Tactical SRBM with a range of 750 km. Uses liquid fuel and has a smart targeting system.[81]

Cruise missiles[edit]

• Nasr-1 - Iranian made short range missiles.
• Meshkat - Iranian cruise missile with range of 2000 kilometers.(under development)
• Qader - Iranian anti-ship cruise missile with a range over 200 km.
• Ya-Ali - Iranian land attack cruise missile with 700 km range.
• Soumar - An Iranian made copy of the Raduga Kh-55 with a range of 2500 to 3000 km.

Anti-tank missiles[edit]

• Raad - copy of Soviet AT-3 Sagger[82]
• RPG-7 - Copy of Soviet RPG-7. Iran is forecast to manufacture 2.88 percent of the worlds RPG-7's by 2014.[83]
• RPG-29
• Saegheh - improved version of the RPG-7[84]
• Toophan - Copy of American TOW missile
• Toophan 2 - Improved Version of Iranian Toophan
• Toophan 5 - Anti-armor, anti-tank missile with two warheads[85][86]
• Saeghe 1/2 - reverse engineered M47 Dragon[87][88]
• Towsan - Iranian version of the 9M113 Konkurs/AT-5 Spandrel
• Dehlaviyeh - Locally produced version of the Kornet-E[89][90]
• Tondar - Iranian made version of 9M119 Svir ATGM with max range of 4,000 meters.[91]

Air defense weapons[edit]

Raad air defense system

• Qaem - anti-helicopter, light-weight, laser guided missile[85][86]
• Raad - anti-helicopter system.
• Misagh-1 - First generation MANPADS
• Misagh-2 - Improved Misagh-1 MANPAD
• Shahab Thaqeb (شهاب ثاقب) - copy of the Chinese HQ-7 (FM-80)
• SM-1 copy of RIM-66 Standard.
• Sayyad-1 / Sayyad-1A - Sayyad-1A has IR tracking.
• Sayyad-2 (Hunter II). Upgraded version of the Sayyad-1 system with higher precision, range and defensive power. Medium Range High Altitude.
• Fajr-8 - upgrade of S-200[98]
• Mersad - Iran's first advanced air defense system based on the US MIM-23 Hawk. It is capable of hitting modern aircraft flying at low and medium altitudes. The Mersad system is equipped with sophisticated radar signal processing technology, an advanced launcher, and electronic equipment for guidance and target acquisition. Mersad uses domestically manufactured Shahin missiles.[103]
• Mesbah 1 air defense system - can target and destroy fighters, helicopters, cruise missiles and other objects flying at low altitude. Mesbah 1 is equipped with a three-dimensional interception radar and an optical guidance system. Mesbah 1 can fire four thousand rounds per minute.[104][105]
• Mehrab (altar) - surface-to-air medium-range smart missile. The Mehrab missile is equipped with anti-radar and anti-jamming systems, and if the enemy tries to jam the guidance system of the missile, it immediately identifies the source of the interference and changes its course toward the source and destroys the jammer.[106]
• Raad - Air defence system with range of 50 kilometers and engagement altitude of 25 to 27 kilometers[107]
• Bavar-373 (under development). Iran's upcoming advanced long range SAM which uses two or three types of missiles to confront aerial targets in different layers.[108]
• Ya Zahra - Low-altitude mobile air defense system.[109]
• Soheil - Quadruped- MANPADS missile launcher, which can detect and intercept aerial targets.[110][111]
• Herz-9 - Passive low-altitude mobile air defense system with operating range of 10 km and operating altitude of 5 km .[112][113][114]
• Talaash- A mid-range, high altitude missile mobile air defense missile system which uses Sayyad-2 missiles, on November 2013 Iran launched the production line of Sayyad-2 missile.[115][116][117]

Air-to-ground munitions[edit]


Zoobin electro-optically guided air to surface missile

• Qadr - Electro-optically guided 2000 lb glide-bomb[119][120]
• Zoobin - Electro-optically guided 750 lb glide-bomb[119][120]
• Qassed I/II/III - Electro-optically guided 2000 lb bomb. Qassed-2 has a range about 50 km, Qassed-3 has a range of over 100 km[120][121]
• Asre - Laser-guided air-to-ground missile.[120]
• Kite - Stand-off sub-munitions dispenser.[120]
• Yasser - 750 lb air-to-ground missile.[122]
• Bina - Laser-guided air-to-ground and ground-to-ground missile according to Janes It appears to be an AGM-65 Maverick air-to-ground missile with a semi-active laser (SAL) seeker fitted to its nose.[123]
• Sadid-1 - Light air to ground missile.[citation needed]

Air-to-air missiles[edit]

• Fatter - copy of U.S. AIM-9 Sidewinder[36][124]
• Sedjil - copy of U.S. MIM-23 Hawk converted to be carried by aircraft[36]
• Sattar 1/2/3/4 - Medium Range air-to-air missiles.
• Fakour 90 - Iranian version of AIM-54 Phoenix with a max range of 190 km(actual range is classified) [125] it was successfully tested on February 2013.[126]

Naval missiles[edit]

• Ra'ad - Indigenously developed long-range anti-ship missile based on HY-2 Silkworm.
• Fajre Darya- copy of Sea Killer II.
• Kowsar 1/2/3 - Wtih a range of 15-20 km. [127][128]
• Nasr - Several versions based on TL-6 and C-705 with a range of 35 km.
• Tondar - upgraded copy of Chinese C-801. Similar to Noor but powered by solid rocket booster and range of 50 km.[129][130][131]
• Thaqeb - Similar to Noor, modified for submarine launch.[132][133]
• Noor - upgraded copy of Chinese C-802 with a range of 120 km.[134]
• Qader - Iranian anti-ship cruise missile with a range over 200 km.[135]
• Khalij Fars - Anti ship ballistic missile based on Fateh-110 with a range of 300 km.
• Zafar - Indigenously developed short range anti ship missile.[136][137]

Torpedo[edit]

• Kuse
• Yasin
• Hoot - A supercavitation torpedo with a top speed of 360 km/h under water.
• Valfajr

Safir SLV[edit]

Iran has developed an expendable satellite launch vehicle named Safir SLV. Measuring 22 m in height with a core diameter of 1.25 m, with two liquid propellant stages, a single thrust chambered first stage and a two-thrust chambered, step-throttled second stage, the SLV has a lift off mass exceeding 26 tons. According to the technical documentation presented in the annual meeting of the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs it is a two-stage rocket with all liquid propellant engines. The first stage is capable of carrying the payload to the maximum altitude of 68 kilometer.[5]

Safir-1B[edit]

The Safir-1B is the second generation of Safir SLV and can carry a satellite weighing 60 kilograms into an elliptical orbit of 300 to 450 kilometers. The thrust of the Safir-1B rocket engine has been increased from 32 to 37 tons.

Simorgh SLV[edit]

In 2010 a more powerful rocket named Simorgh was built. Its mission is to carry heavier satellites into orbit.[6][7] The Simorgh rocket is 27 meters (89 ft) long, and has a mass of 77 tonnes (85 tons).[4] Its first stage is powered by four main engines, each generating up to 29,000 kilograms (64,000 lb) of thrust, plus a fifth which will be used for altitude control, which provides an additional 13,600 kilograms (30,000 lb). At liftoff, these engines will generate a total of 130,000 kilograms (290,000 lb) of thrust. Simorgh is capable of putting a 60-kilogram (130 lb) payload into a 500-kilometer (310 mi) low Earth orbit. The first flight of the Simorgh rocket is scheduled to occur by 2013.[8] In 2015, Israeli media reported the missile is capable of taking a manned spacecraft or satellite into space.[9][10]

GHEAM SLV[edit]

A heavier launch vehicle with four stages and four solid propellant engines. Its first stage engine has a diameter of 3.5 meters and 25 meters long. Western sources claim that Iran is showing its capability to build ICBM missiles.


* Iran has already equipped its MIL17 Helicopters with Noor Anti Ship Cruise Missiles (120 km) and its smaller 206 Helicopters with Nasr cruise missiles. Nasr-1 missiles weight 350 kg and has a 130 kg semi-piercing warhead with a range of 35 km.

F-4E Phantom Jets Equipped with GHADER Anti ship Cruise Missiles with a range of 220 kms:

206 Helicopters equipped with Nasr-1 Missile:

http://www.mashreghnews.ir/fa/news/299250/


Iran has thousands and thousands of long range ballistic missiles in a way that IRCG complains about available space to store them!!
برای انبار کردن موشک های سپاه کمبود جا داریم - تی نیوز

 

[PATHAN786KING]

remember its not photoshop like irani missile or qaher 313


Surface-to-surface missiles

Truck-mounted Missiles on display at the IDEAS 2008 defence exhibition inKarachi, Pakistan.

A transporter erector launcher (TEL), carrying four cruise missiles, on display at the IDEAS 2008 defence exhibition, Karachi, Pakistan.
Battlefield range ballistic missiles (BRBM)

• Nasr
• Hatf-I

Short range ballistic missiles (SRBM)

• Ghaznavi
• Abdali-I
• Ghauri-I
• Shaheen-I

Medium range ballistic missiles (MRBM)

• Ghauri-II
• Shaheen-II
• Shaheen-III

Cruise missiles

• Babur (Hatf VII)

Anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM)

• Baktar-Shikan

Air-to-surface missiles

• H-2 SOW
• H-4 SOW
• Ra'ad (Hatf VIII)
• Baktar-Shikan
• Barq [1]

Surface-to-air missiles[edit]

Anza MK-II displayed at an exhibition

• Anza Mk.1, Mk.2, Mk.3

 

[The Last of us]

remember its not photoshop like irani missile or qaher 313


Surface-to-surface missiles

Truck-mounted Missiles on display at the IDEAS 2008 defence exhibition inKarachi, Pakistan.

A transporter erector launcher (TEL), carrying four cruise missiles, on display at the IDEAS 2008 defence exhibition, Karachi, Pakistan.
Battlefield range ballistic missiles (BRBM)

• Nasr
• Hatf-I

Short range ballistic missiles (SRBM)

• Ghaznavi
• Abdali-I
• Ghauri-I
• Shaheen-I

Medium range ballistic missiles (MRBM)

• Ghauri-II
• Shaheen-II
• Shaheen-III

Cruise missiles

• Babur (Hatf VII)

Anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM)

• Baktar-Shikan

Air-to-surface missiles

• H-2 SOW
• H-4 SOW
• Ra'ad (Hatf VIII)
• Baktar-Shikan
• Barq [1]

Surface-to-air missiles[edit]

Anza MK-II displayed at an exhibition

• Anza Mk.1, Mk.2, Mk.3

These are suppose to show Pakistan is ahead of Iran in missile technology?
There is nothing on your list that Iran has not had for at least a decade. What a joke.

There are real achievement dude:

Anti ship ballistic missile:

Anti radiation ballistic missile:

3000km ranged cruise missile with Iranian engine:

200km+ ranged surface to air missile called Sayad-3:

Talash-2 medium ranged missile:

And these are only a small list.

Let me know when you have anything even slightly comparable to these. All you show is some cheap tomohawk ripp off and some Chinese manpad and DF series knockoffs. Only thing indigenous is a few short range missiles.

And of course, it is joke comparing Iranian missile to Pakistan, a country that cannot even put a satellite into orbit. Having that capability shows a great deal of proficiency in missile technology. A capability which you will not have in the next few decades.

 

[haman10]

it seems u forgot last blackout

Shut up

Lol guys keep it calm. 2 guys fighting over the net is not gonna change the realities on the ground

Saudi are the strongest

 

[scythian500]

Soumar = 2500-3000km

Noor Cruise Missile Canisters:

@SOHEIL ye chand ta axe shelike khafan bezar.. mooshake zire abi, air to air, silo ballistic, cruise, abe howz...harchi dari!

 

[scythian500]

These are suppose to show Pakistan is ahead of Iran in missile technology?
There is nothing on your list that Iran has not had for at least a decade. What a joke.

There are real achievement dude:

Anti ship ballistic missile:

Anti radiation ballistic missile:

3000km ranged cruise missile with Iranian engine:

200km+ ranged surface to air missile called Sayad-3:

Talash-2 medium ranged missile:

And these are only a small list.

Let me know when you have anything even slightly comparable to these. All you show is some cheap tomohawk ripp off and some Chinese manpad and DF series knockoffs. Only thing indigenous is a few short range missiles.

And of course, it is joke comparing Iranian missile to Pakistan, a country that cannot even put a satellite into orbit. Having that capability shows a great deal of proficiency in missile technology. A capability which you will not have in the next few decades.

If you ask the same question 10 year ago, Pakistan was first and Iran or even Turkey second... but now in 2015 is a head by decades... Despite Iran's powerful missile industry we should not underestimate Pakistani's... They are well equipped...and although second to Iran but are by far the most powerful than other countries on the list...

Iran not only is miles ahead of listed countries by only 4th to USA, Russia and China based on informative commanders, they certainly know something that we don't that come up with such claim:

خبرگزاری آريا - ايران قدرت چهارم موشکي جهان است/عتبات متبرکه در عراق خط قرمز ماست

I think Iran still holds a part of its strategic missiles or weapons secretive so they have an element of surprise in real battle field... Pakistan or China or Russia have different situation than IRan's... Iran is involved in a very strong cold war... This cold war forces Iran not to show whatever it has and make herself empty handed in front of enemies... so it makes sense to me... but even these showed missiles and its huge number is far more sophisticated than any other Islamic nation...

so let's stay fair...

For those who bring up the mass ballistic photoshop and F-313 on Damavand mountain... please come with something new... these two already responded with showing its ORIGINAL VIDEO and the second one was known to be a troll home made photoshop... It never was issued by Iran!! so stay fair... back up your claims if you claim your country has better missile tech...

 

[Abii]

We can't ignore Pakistan's nukes tbh. Ballistic missiles are purely for the delivery of warheads. That's THE reason why they exist: to carry warheads!

So in ballistic tech, I'd go with Pakistan.

In other areas, I'd go with Iran, but the lack of accuracy of Iranian missiles (no live GPS tracking) is concerning. Iran doesn't have her own GPS satellites and that's a big blow to accuracy. All the claims made about the missiles being accurate to a few meters are unsubstantiated.

I have more hope for Iran in the future though (compared to Pakistan). There will always be more money to throw around and the country has a more educated workforce. If the sanctions are removed and the GPS issue is solved, Iran can only go up.

However, the big elephant in the room here is nukes. Ballistic missiles without nuclear warheads are USELESS. They're nothing but glorified scuds. A 2K kilo warhead carried by a BM is the same 2K Kilo warhead that gets dropped by a jet. Every day occurrence. Without a nuclear warhead, BM's are a massive waste of money.

 

[PathanBangladeshi]

Bangladesh

 

[Hurter]

Pakistan & Turkey

Certainly Iran is stronger 100%%%%%

After Iran, Pakistan


Please be realist


Regards

Please explain.. How?

 

[Armstrong]

@Icarus - Kuch isss topic ka pataaa haiii ? Where do we stand viz a vie others in the Muslim World ?

 

[Hurter]

Iran is more superior to every country on that list in almost every aspect of missile tech. You open a thread in a Pakistan forum and expect a non biased voting?




Are you having a laugh dude?

Can you people even launch a satellite? Does Pakistan have anti ship ballistic missile? Does Pakistan have anti radiation ballistic missile? Has Pakistan shown cruise missile with 2500km range+? Pakistan has not even made a medium ranged surface to air missile , heck have you even made a short ranged medium ranged SAM? Whilst Iran has 200km+ ranged SAM's.

You clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about. All it takes is a simple search to know Iranian missile accuracy. Something your country is decades anyway from. Let me know when you have this:

Anti radiation ballistics missile:

200km+ ranged SAM.

You're deluded if you think Pakistan missile program is more advance than Irans. Iran is more advance in almost if not all aspects of missile tech. There is not a contest. Next time do a little research before making such a ridiculous statement.



Are you on drugs kid? No offence but the only major missile you have is some renamed short ranged Chinese missile. You're at least 20 years away from Iran in the missile sector.



Babur is just a 700km ranged cruise missile. What's the big deal? Iran has a 700km ranged cruise missile:

It seems babur is modelled after an American tomohawk. It is not very long range for its size. The Iranian cruise missile is considerably shorter but still has the same range. Iran also has a 2500-3000Km ranged cruise missile.

As for your SLV tech, Iran has been launching satellites for half a decade now. Pakistan is still many years away from this feat. This once again shows Iran's superior position with regards to the missile technology.

Show us the comparison of Missiles of both the countries.. No one will give his one-sided opinion.