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A peculiar phenomenon that i observed while reading about Gujara-Pratihara and Rashtrakuta empires was that while Rashtrakuta satraps use to rebel against central authority at very first opportunity ( Rashtrakuta empire was supplanted by it's satraps), Gujara-Pratihara's satraps remained loyal to central authority long after that empire was just a shell of it's former self.Pratihara empire was thrown out only when a decadent emperor ascended onto throne.
What is your opinion regarding this phenomenon?
I think Vijayanagara Kingdom and the Ahoms, there is hardly any history of it in text books only 2 lines about them while major part of it is dedicated to mughal secular rulers courtesy of left marxist historians.
Raja Raja Chola by far is the most underrated one.Cholas conquered South India,Sri Lanka going all the way upto Bengal and all habitable parts of SE Asia
And yet our history textbooks make only a passing reference to Chola accomplishments.
I am not Tamil in case you are wondering.
Kaniska is also very underrated.
the reason for that is, the Nanda dynasty were enemies of the Maura's & preceded them as it was the immediate kingdom before the Maurya Dynasty , their dislike of Chandara Gupta & the battles fought against him , along with their disputing the status of Chandara Gupta being a Kshatriya , Chandra Gupta & his grand son Ashoka the great , plays a very central role to the ethos of present day India , just like Sultanate of Delhi, became historically overshadowed in front of the glory of the Mughal Empire. similarly the legacy of the Nanda's Dynasty became the historical casualties in front of the glory of the Maurya EmpireI guess in general the history of Magadha is muted in our studies. Primarily because later historical events are more clearly documented, especially from Muughal era onwards.
Indian history starts in 1947, so there shouldn't be many obscure leaders to choose from.
Indian history starts in 1947, so there shouldn't be many obscure leaders to choose from.
King Lalitaditya of Kashmir, subjugated vast tracts in North India, Central Asia and Tibet. No mention of him in our school books
I am creating this to thread to gain knowledge about those part of history which are usually not taught at school level in detail,and to discuss another side of rulers/Kings who are not given enough significance in Indian history since quantum of achievement is low, even though against much hostile odds than some empire builders.
Members should steer clear of famous Kings like Ashoka and Akbar as everyone knows about them.
I would start by two examples:
1. All non mauryan dynasties of Magadha, especially Ajatashatru.
In my opinion, Ajatashatru , if ever mentioned in history, is mentioned in very negative tenor since he killed his father to ascend throne , killed civilians , and ruthlessly conquered Kosala and Vashali.
His ruthlessness, for which he is berated in mainstream historical discourse, in my opinion is his redeeming quality. He ensured that Magadha , at the time of his death, would be strongest Kingdom in India with only mahajanpada of Avanti being able to offer some resistance. He was a no holds barred commander who took war & conquest seriously , rather than treating it as a quasi sport unlike some of later Kings; and used innovative techniques like siege engines to win.He was someone who stick it to his enemies, a quality sorely missing from a lot of Indian Kings.
The area under his tutelage may have been limited, but he along with his father were chief architect of Magadha Empire which would go on to become a Pan-Indian Empire.
Chandragupta , when he ascended the throne, got a well knit Empire in which Avanti ,which was longstanding competitor, was assimilated by Shishunaga ( who also brought all 16 Mahajanpadas under Magadh Empire ), and Nandas ( could be regarded as first empire builders ) who expanded their kingdom into deccan, and raised a large standing army.
Mauryans on the other hand had it relatively easy. Since tribes of Punjab were already subdued by Alexander, Chandragupta has to just walk into Punjab/Sindh region with his Army ( courtesy Nandas ) and conquer some small kingdoms in South to establish a pan Indian empire.
2. Raja Sukhdeo ( I learned about him on PDF)
Like Battle of Rajasthan ensured that India would not become a Muslim country ( By giving breathing space of 300 years , until Ghaznavid invasion, to India ), Battle of Bahraich fought by Raja Sukhdeo against Mohd. salar masood , nephew of Ghaznavi who invaded India after death of his uncle, ensured that Border of Pakistan passes through middle of Punjab rather than Madhya Pradesh ( He provided India with breathing space of 150 years, till Ghurid Invasions).
Salar massod, who followed his uncle's footstep, invaded India in 1031 AD . In response to this threat Raja Sukhdeo raised a confederate Army and two Armies clashed near Chittaura Jheel, Bahraich. In this battle, whole of Ghaznavid army was slaughtered, thus ending invasion.
Raja Sukhdeo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ghazi Saiyyad Salar Masud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Dont we also have sun temple in konark.So sun temple in kashmir should not be the only one.He also built martand temple, only Sun temple that use to honor dusk's Sun.
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agreed. . however am not counting size of kingdom... but the King ... During his time diamonds sold like peanuts. ... btw.. i like the battle between Porus vs Alex...vijayanagara was a small kingdom similar to the size of Nizam of Hyderabad or Ranjeet singh , however "the Chola Dynasty" was another Beast altogether , & it was one Kick A$$ Power House encompassing south India , parts of indo-china & Indonesia the empire stretched more then 6000 km with a huge area size of 1.3 million sq mi or 3.6 million sq km ! , it was bigger then present day India , UK , & Switzerland combined ! , however, it was more of a south east Asian power, rather then a south Asian one , there for, it is not mentioned much especially in the context of other kingdoms or empires like the Mughals or Maurya's , which were more of a south Asian powerhouse (India-Pakistan -BD & parts of Afghanistan) secondly when it came to the Chola dynasty, the language & culture were also quite different, as it was not an Indo-Iranian one like Sanskrit or Persian which dominated both kingdoms like Maura or Mughals etc & with which both formed a very strong rooted cultural identity, that we see in present day India-Pakistan , as for Ahom again it was too small so as to have the type of historical impact that is needed to, The Chola Empire did it however they did it, in the wrong side of the bay of Bengal ! the realms of power & dominance in south Asia lies in India/Pakistan & Afghanistan, it has always been like that , from the Buddhist periods,
to the Hindu kingdoms to the Muslim ones , heck even Mahabharat needed to be there
The Chola Empire
the reason for that is, the Nanda dynasty were enemies of the Maura's & preceded them as it was the immediate kingdom before the Maurya Dynasty , their dislike of Chandara Gupta & the battles fought against him , along with their disputing the status of Chandara Gupta being a Kshatriya , Chandra Gupta & his grand son Ashoka the great , plays a very central role to the ethos of present day India , just like sultanate of Delhi became historically overshadowed in front of the glory of the Mughal Empire the legacy of the Nanda's Dynasty became casualties in front of the glory Maurya Empire
Dont we also have sun temple in konark.So sun temple in kashmir should not be the only one.