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Which countries would benefit greatly from a US backed regime change in Iran?

Which countries would benefit greatly from a US backed regime change in Iran?

  • Israel

  • Iraq

  • Pakistan

  • Saudi Arabia

  • Syria

  • Afghanistan

  • India

  • China

  • Turkey

  • Yemen


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Lmao. Iran shouldn't even be in the list. Helping some proxy covert means nothing. You are sidelined in Syria by Russia.

No presence in Lebanon. Just in Iraq and even they are not with you 100% since they targetted Solemni and actully Iraq is under US and Turkish invasion.. You are in only broken or invaded countries by other forces? Like Yemen.

Humiliating? It was a tactical retreat otherwise it would have given way to bigger wars and to this day I don't understand how the truth has been lost in all of this. Lmao!

Look Israel can be fixed when what behind it can't prevent it's fall in themselves and that is not far away. Israel is the least of concern right now.

You have no power or say in the region. Both militarily, diplomacy and political power. You are surrounded. Don't think of Saudi Arabia as one country but think about what lays behind it. Iran is a tiny mosquito in comparison
We continue to have large military bases in Syria, including near the Mediterranean Sea at Latakia. Some of our military bases in Syria are larger than the US bases in Arab countries. Assad continues to remain under the protection of Iranian agents in Syria. That's more than enough.

No presence in Lebanon? Are you serious? I mean I know you live in your delusions, but have you ever heard of Hezbollah? You may want to google them. They stopped Israel twice, unlike Arabs that unconditionally surrendered and capitulated to Israel in 6 days and lost the Sinai peninsula, the Gaza strip, the West Bank and the Golan heights.

A tactical retreat? LMAO. The whole world thinks of you as a bunch of clowns after the 6 day war. And I'm not talking about Iranians at all. I am talking about any country in the world. The 6 day war has become so famous that even Europeans and Americans know about it. The idea of the Israeli invincibility became widespread after your humiliating defeat at their hands. You lost the Sinai peninsula, the Gaza strip, the West Bank and the Golan heights in 6 days. LOL And you're proud of it. LOL

Saudi Arabia is so incompetent that she has attracted the ridicule of all military experts in the world because of their constant failures and humiliations in Yemen. Even American experts make fun of them. Not to mention that the Trump administration continuously humiliated Arabs and said that if it weren't for them, you would've spoken Persian and your governments would've fallen in 2 weeks. Apparently, Collin Powell thought the same too.

It's good that Saudis have finally realized that they should come to Iraq to mend ties with Iran. Apparently, they're smarter than you and have realized how badly they have failed in Yemen because of our support for the Houthis.
 
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We continue to have large military bases in Syria, including near the Mediterranean Sea at Latakia. Some of our military bases in Syria are larger than the US bases in Arab countries. Assad continues to remain under the protection of Iranian agents in Syria. That's more than enough.

No presence in Lebanon? Are you serious? I mean I know you live in your delusions, but have you ever heard of Hezbollah? You may want to google them. They stopped Israel, unlike Arabs that unconditionally surrendered and capitulated to Israel in 6 days and lost the Sinai peninsula, the Gaza strip, the West Bank and the Golan heights.

A tactical retreat? LMAO. The whole world thinks of you as a bunch of clowns after the 6 day war. And I'm not talking about Iranians at all. I am talking about any country in the world. The 6 day war has become so famous that even Europeans and Americans know about it. You lost the Sinai peninsula, the Gaza strip, the West Bank and the Golan heights in 6 days. LOL And you're proud of it. LOL

Saudi Arabia is so incompetent that she has attracted the ridicule of all military experts in the world because of their constant failures and humiliations in Yemen. Even American experts make fun of them. Not to mention that the Trump administration continuously humiliated Arabs and said that if it weren't for them, you would've spoken Persian and your governments would've fallen in 2 weeks. Apparently, Collin Powell thought the same too.

It's good that Saudis have finally realized that they should come to Iraq to mend ties with Iran. Apparently, they're smarter than you and have realized how badly they have failed in Yemen because of our support for the Houthis.

You are still spewing the nonsense.

You have been effectively sidelined by Russia and they are the once doing all political deals with Turkey and US. As per official you have no presence in Syria except serving the Russians. You are not there by yourself but serving under Russian generals who hold the Assad held territories.

No Presence in Lebanon? Hezbullah doesn't count as presence just a group that has alliance with you but they are only a non state actor group and irrelevant in Lebanon official context.

The Saudis actully invaded that broken country you claim presence in and controll more then 80% of it.

Iraq itself is under US and Turkish invasion? So where are you? operating in the shadows of other powers?

Your influence is insignficiant in the region.. Let us speak when you have true influence yourself not working in the shadows like a fox waiting for it's meal time before the big predators leave.

A big predator makes his own kill and eats it but they don't loom in the shadows
 
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You are still spewing the nonsense.

You have been effectively sideline by Russia and they are the once doing all political deals with Turkey and US. As per official you have no presence in Syria except serving the Russians. You are not there by yourself but serving under Russian generals who hold the Assad held territories.

No Presence in Lebanon? Hezbullah doesn't count as presence just a group that has alliance with you but they are only a non state actor group and irrelevant in Lebanon official context.

The Saudis actully invaded that broken country you claim presence in and controll more then 80% of it.

Iraq itself is under US and Turkish invasion? So where are? operating in the shadows of other powers?

Your influence is insignficiant
And yet the Syrian opposition disagree with you and blame Iran for Assad remaining in power. Syria is basically our ally and Assad is closer to Iran than it has been or will ever be to Russia. The structure of power in Syria remains made of Alawite Shiite people. Russia wanted Assad gone and replaced by a different president to calm the riots down, and yet Assad remains in power, people around him remain in power and we are controlling the important port of Latakia as well as several huge military bases in there. I know it makes you sad and it hurts you deeply, but sorry, it's the way it is. Russia has no control over Assad. If it had, they would've forced him to recognize Israel and mend ties with Israel (as it was reported in the media several times), or at least kick Iran out. And here you are, dreaming years after years about Iran leaving Syria or Assad getting toppled and getting disappointed more and more year by year. LOL

A group that basically controls south of Lebanon and nobody can do anything against them in Lebanon. A group that can basically defeat the Lebanese army in days if it wants. A group that has more courage than your Arabs that submitted and capitulated to Israel in 6 days and you're now proud that Israel didn't go on to humiliate you more and invade more lands.

80%? More like less than 50% because most of the Eastern parts of Yemen are controlled by the ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Unless you admit that Al-Qaeda and ISIS and Arabs are the same? And yet Houthis are in control of all important and strategic parts of Yemen near the Red Sea and the Bab-El Mandeb Straight, as well as the capital. The same is true about Libya. Turkey controls most of the strategic parts of it.

"Your influence is insignificant". lol You do realize that if you keep repeating the same sentence a thousand times, it won't make it true. Right? So, keep repeating it if it makes you feel less hurt. I'm fine with it.

By the way, we both wrote two posts about the future of the region in 2025. And it seems that one of my predictions have become true: Saudi Arabia trying to end the war in Yemen. Let's stick to that list and wait for 2025.
 
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And yet the Syrian opposition disagree with you and blame Iran for Assad remaining in power. Syria is basically our ally and Assad is closer to Iran than it has been or will ever be to Russia.

Opposition never credited Iran they know themselves that they defeated the Iranian forces and this is also on record that Solemni went to Moscow to handover Syria in 2015.

Assad is just a Russian puppet at this point and all the decisions lay solely with Moscow. He lost everything in 2015 under the Russian-Solemni deal. The energy rights and everything. The opposition solely credit Russia for his survival and label it as another crusade and that is basically what it is. A war that kept coming back since centuries now. If it was not for Turkey and the US the Russians would have taken every inch of land in Syria.

Bab-El Mandeb? What? No ships can even dock in Hoeidah without Yemen gov't giving green light all of the straits are under Yemen Gov't aka kSA and UAE,. All the oil and plus all the major cities except only San'aa since it is Houthi tribal heartland area..
 
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I think India can gain if a us backed government is in power. During cold war we were in different blocks, had different ideologies but that'll be different now, with our pro us shift now our oil import, strategic interest decisions would go more smoothly without any fear of sanctions.
Also don't know if Iranians think of their ancient history much but I believe such a regime might look back to their Persian ancient history with more pride and have better relations with India as we both are one of the world oldest civilizations and had trade and cultural relations going way back.
 
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Opposition never credited Iran they know themselves that they defeated the Iranian forces and this is also on record that Solemni went to Moscow to handover Syria in 2015.

Assad is just a Russian puppet at this point and all the decisions lay solely with Moscow. He lost everything in 2015 under the Russian-Solemni deal. The energy rights and everything. The opposition solely credit Russia for his survival and label it as another crusade and that is basically what it is. A war that kept coming back since centuries now. If it was not for Turkey and the US the Russians would have taken every inch of land in Syria.
Huh? How did Iran hand over Syria to Russia when Syria didn't even belong to us? lol Where is the opposition now? They have been defeated to the point that even the most optimistic haters of Assad can't see them back to win the war.

Anyway, let's agree to disagree now and stick to our predictions and just wait peacefully for 4 more years. Shall we?
 
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Huh? How did Iran hand over Syria to Russia when Syria didn't even belong to us? lol Where is the opposition now? They have been defeated to the point that even the most optimistic haters of Assad can't see them back to win the war.

Anyway, let's agree to disagree now and stick to our predictions and just wait peacefully for 4 more years. Shall we?

Defeated? Not when you hold 10-15% of the country and rebuilding your forces stronger then last time and motivated. No just no. There is also the US backed forces area etc etc Syria is just paused and partition into 3 parts without any side being defeated entirely.

It is okay we can agree to disagree
 
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Israel.

KSA was currently being splitted into pieces by ISIS if Iran didn't stop them on their borders. It is a fact that ISIS makers tried to destabilize Iran first before other Middle eastern countries but others wouldve fallen also one after an other like a domino.

Pakistan and China will have significant losses followed by a regime change in Iran. A US-India-Iran alliance could surround them both. USA could block oil Flow to energy hungry China. China is the engine of world economy and without energy resources, it has to offer Americans with huge consessions.

And you seriously think that China, Russia, Pakistan and Turkey would sit idly by!!
 
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in most nations some people will benefit, others will lose. That is how it is with everything that is done. That is why most nations are VERY divided. In the UK, many the Scots want out. US facing civil unrest. Canada, traitorous servants of the bankster false Jew and invaders huddle for safety around Toronto and BC lower mainland, Yemen war, Rwanda genocide, .....every nation is the same. Billions HATE the hundreds of millions in the cities. Like the Dark Ages and King Arthur story. But no Arthur to protect the thieves in the cities this time. This time there is Corona virus and vaccines to make people into robots. Won't work.
 
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There are many candidates but I can tell you the most effected one will be Pakistan. What they did from Afghan soil against Pakistan, since 9/11 through the likes of Karzai and Ghani, ran their terror campaign spreading all sorts of evil within the land of Pakistan and its citizens, now imagine you have similar puppet/proxy characters in charge of Iran. Its a scary thought considering Pakistan border with Iran is least protected.
 
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Only Israel because pro-Israel Iranians will come back to power.
It won't benefit Arabs because the new Iranian regime will be 10 times more anti-Arab. The Islamic republic is at least a Muslim country that talks about Islamic brotherhood, while a new Iranian regime will be a pro-Western, anti-Islam, anti-Arab system. Iran under the Shah or today's Turkey are good examples of how a pro-West Iran will make Arabs lose the region to Iran even more. As for most other countries, there won't be a significant change.
This you hit the nail on the head

religious Iranians are doctrinally anti-Arabs.... secular Iranians are racially anti-Arabs..that's the brasstacks and bottomline of it
 
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This you hit the nail on the head

religious Iranians are doctrinally anti-Arabs.... secular Iranians are racially anti-Arabs..that's the brasstacks and bottomline of it
Honestly, the people of Iran, even those who are not very secular, think of the Islamic regime of Iran as the most Arabophillic regime that Iran has had in a very long time. Khomeini literally said that patriotism is a sin and we must all follow the idea of Ummah instead of patriotism. They use Quranic names for our military weapons because of Islam. They write Quranic verses in our education books that most people hate it. They are friends with Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraq, etc. It's considered something like a grave sin for a secular anti-IR Iranian to have any sort of friendship with Arabs. The only problem that the Islamic Republic has with Arabs is that they rely too much on Westerners and they don't want to form a coalition with the Islamic republic. If Arabs sided with Iran against the United States or Israel, the Ayatollahs of Iran would consider them brothers without a blink. That's never possible with secular Iranians. They don't understand how the IR is under so much pressure from Iranians to reduce its ties with Arabs, and Israel employs this animosity in social media and satellite channels to promote her own interests.
 
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Considering what has happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya...... bunch of other countries. USA doesn't have a good track record on regime change in the ME. Iran would descend into factional fighting. Biggest winners would be Afghanistan, since USA would probably back a Kabul regime invasion of Iran. The Afghans would get access to the sea.... But Kabul regime is pretty incompetent. They would probably lose. Iranians would unite to fight them. Regime change dream over.


Do you think that it is a coincidence that every Muslim country the Zionist owned US 'regime changes' descends into self- destroying failed state?
 
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Honestly, the people of Iran, even those who are not very secular, think of the Islamic regime of Iran as the most Arabophillic regime that Iran has had in a very long time. Khomeini literally said that patriotism is a sin and we must all follow the idea of Ummah instead of patriotism. They use Quranic names for our military weapons because of Islam. They write Quranic verses in our education books that most people hate it. They are friends with Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraq, etc. It's considered something like a grave sin for a secular anti-IR Iranian to have any sort of friendship with Arabs. The only problem that the Islamic Republic has with Arabs is that they rely too much on Westerners and they don't want to form a coalition with the Islamic republic. If Arabs sided with Iran against the United States or Israel, the Ayatollahs of Iran would consider them brothers without a blink. That's never possible with secular Iranians. They don't understand how the IR is under so much pressure from Iranians to reduce its ties with Arabs, and Israel employs this animosity in social media and satellite channels to promote her own interests.

Thanks for giving an insider's view..Comports with my own observations after decades long close contact with Iranians.......There is a nagging feeling in me that Iranians are losing their religiosity very fast even within Iran...How will that affect the legitimacy of the present Iranian Republic among the populace? I am pretty sure there will be a 3rd Ayatollah...But will there ever be a 4th Ayatollah?


An Islamic regime in Tehran is the Arab world's best shot at having cordial relations with the Iranian nation
 
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