Which AWACS & AWE&C is best In the World

[SQ8]

Blain is correct when he states that there is now no difference.
AWACS which stands for Airborne warning and control system was coined by the US for the E-3. Before that many AEW platforms had come and gone starting in the 50's. This was the first system that put Combat control into the platform. So in reality the E-3 was the first AEW&C aircraft, the AWACS designation was meant for it originally but became a commonly used term. The correct designation for all of these platform is AEW&C.
Although the E-2 was in service before that its early years were spent sending information back to the 'war room' of the carrier and its was known in Navy designation is E-2 AEW. The C for control came later as datalinks and radio communication matured.
As for now, the wedgetail is the creme of the crop. An Agile beam antenna, Substantial ESM and ECCM. Crew comfort and data capacity. It also is very expensive though not the most, the most expensive is the Japanese E-767 series which cost the Japanese a lot of greenbacks.
However, with the latest upgrades now in the offing for the E-3 which is about to go through this cycle, it will gain most if not all of the abilities of the wedgetail including a rotating AESA, More powerful ESM and with its greater loiter time, combat capacity and ability to defend itself.. will retake the title of the best machine.

The Chinese are still far behind in Radar tech and will take another 5 or so years to achieve the standard.
What is a nice addition is, what could be the best design for an AEW&C jet..Well, something like the B-1 with an integrated conformal AESA array all over.. Being able to get to a deployment area quick.. and get out quick.

And last .. the ugliest Awacs

 

[ice_man]

the difference between the best & not so good AEW&C is simple IMO:

1) Range of tracking of the radar as well as how many targets can it track simultaneously

2) Loitering time (how long can it stay on station)

3) How affectively it can jam enemy radars & communication


in this case SIZE of the aircraft really doesn't matter what counts is how you use it

 

[gambit]

the difference between the best & not so good AEW&C is simple IMO:

1) Range of tracking of the radar as well as how many targets can it track simultaneously

A very difficult calculus and it has little to do with technology.

If the threat can be inbound in less than the time it take your air forces to achieve operational altitude, as in he is your next door neighbor, then it is better off that you have high multiple targets resolution so you can better array your defenses.

2) Loitering time (how long can it stay on station)

Forever is desirable.

3) How affectively it can jam enemy radars & communication

Not as crucial as you might believe. The most important thing for an airborne radar warning platform is still about long range detection, of course, it must be balanced with item one above.

 

[Super Falcon]

hahahha this is phalcon radar of israel why they put the rotor drome on its nose it looks ugly what probleum do they have to put it in its back on 737 it is easy to put rotor dome on it back where it belong too

 

[Tajdar adil]

I thing American AWACS is the best.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Some of the key features of DRDO AEW&CS.... I do not know if its good, Nor am I a technical guy..... I leave it to You all to Judge..

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The Radar will have an extended range mode against fighter aircraft, and will consist of two back to back AESA arrays, with an additional dedicated IFF array.

The ESM system will be able to track sources with a directional accuracy of 2 deg. RMS and a frequency accuracy of 1 MHz.

The ESM system will have complete 360 degree coverage in azimuth and have a database of up to 3000 emitters against which threats will be scanned.

Communication Support Measure system will analyse and record intercepted communications both inflight and post flight.

Self Protection Suite will have a passive Missile Approach Warning

System, a Radar Warning Receiver and countermeasures dispensers.

The SPS will be integrated with the ESM & CSM suite.

The aircraft will have Inflight refuelling.

The aircraft will have SATCOM, and datalinks to pass on ESM, CSM and radar data to ground stations and datalinks to pass on target information to fighters. More than 40 other aircraft will be datalinked together by the AEW & C aircraft.

How exactly is it a DRDO AEWCS? The radar is imported from Ericsson Sweden and a EMB-145 Brazil?

 

[raveolution]

How exactly is it a DRDO AEWCS? The radar is imported from Ericsson Sweden and a EMB-145 Brazil?

And where does it say that the radar is Swedish?? U smokin summin??

 

[dbc]

Before sugessting the capability of any aircraft(AEW&Cs) we should consider some specs and its sensor credibility.

1.737 AEW&C Wedgetail (U.S.A).

Specifications

Dimensions:
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Now the Saab-2000 AEW&C Sweden (the superior one):
Specifications

The true capability of most systems is classified; a comparison of paper specifications isn't the best way to assess operational effectiveness. While two systems may appear to have identical capability on paper, they may even look identical (Phalcon/KJ-2000) reality may be quite different based on how well the software is designed to exploit hardware capability, ease of use and sensor fusion. For instance, two systems may have the same antenna width and T/R module count but manufacturing standards and techniques will yield a better MMIC improving its resistance to electronic counter measures. Also, one system may have more sophisticated code that allows the operator to truly exploit the full potential of each GaN/GaAs T/R module by sub array partitioning. Then there is the human factor, this includes training, skill and motivation of the people that operate these systems. Sometimes, they can remain on station for extended periods; it is easy to become distracted or lose focus impacting their ability to react effectively to simultaneous threats or their ability to communicate and coordinate operations.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

And where does it say that the radar is Swedish?? U smokin summin??

blind patriotic. You are that deluded? India has not even developed a radar system for LCA and here they are claiming to indigenously developing a AEW, my foot.

and look at what these pathological lairs claim.

The Centre for Airborne Systems (CABS) at Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has revealed that it has developed a low-cost, indigenous radar system, which will match and even surpass the Israeli Phalcon Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS).

India requested IAI for the supply of radars for its fighter jet project and here pathological lair DRDO is claiming of developing a AEW. pfff..
Indians use to brag about Dhruv being "indigenous" but not until Amnesty International report exposed actual origin of this chopper, lol and not even 5% has "indigenous" Indian technology. and then they come up with ridiculous analogies like.... oooo even F-22 is not 100% American.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Growler seems to love trolling.

Back to the topic,
Actually AEWC&C or anything is bought/built on the basis of how the country is going to support it's C4I2 systems and integration of all the COMINT, SIGINT and HUMINT assets and create a clear picture of the battle in a command room so that the commanders can have a proper view of the what is happening.

It is very hard to compare...we can just say that the range is better or the endurance is better or it is jamproof and stuff...

AWACS is a part of a system and you cant compare it....lets put it ths way...you compare a Ferrari and a Dodge Viper...we just dont go around comparing the engine alone, the Shock absorbers alone and stuff...We compare it as a car and they producers have given it the best possible and available parts that they have designed for the system.

If you ask me this thread can be merged with the Command and Control system.

 

[unicorn148]

blind patriotic. You are that deluded? India has not even developed a radar system for LCA and here they are claiming to indigenously developing a AEW, my foot.

and look at what these pathological lairs claim.



India requested IAI for the supply of radars for its fighter jet project and here pathological lair DRDO is claiming of developing a AEW. pfff..
Indians use to brag about Dhruv being "indigenous" but not until Amnesty International report exposed actual origin of this chopper, lol and not even 5% has "indigenous" Indian technology. and then they come up with ridiculous analogies like.... oooo even F-22 is not 100% American.

growler, better check ur words before you speak.....

now DRDO has been working on this awacs for years and it has been developed indigenously and about the radar of LCA mutli mode radar is being developed and most of it is complete but for a LCA they preffered ELTA because they felt it more advanced and ..................

Before commenting on us check about your self atleast we have developed many things and even most of our navy is Indeginious and you have been dependent on US till now and now shifted to china but India is trying to develop on its own may be first we may fail but latter we will success

 

[notorious ausiee]

blind patriotic. You are that deluded? India has not even developed a radar system for LCA and here they are claiming to indigenously developing a AEW, my foot.

pakistan even cant make motorcycle on their own and they claim indigenous jets and other system, my foot

 

[Luftwaffe]

pakistan even cant make motorcycle on their own and they claim indigenous jets and other system, my foot

First learn manners.

Secondly your knowledge is limited. Pakistan does make indigenous motorcycles, try googling. No we've not claimed JFT to be totally indegenious you are the only laloo with such thoughts go through JFT Thread. Yes Pakistan does make many indigenous systems and further R&D has been established for it.

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

According to my research. . .

The best AWAC is the E-3 Sentry developed by NORTHROP GRUMMAN. It has the ability to provide surveillance, command, control and communications in all weathers.

E-3 Sentry aircraft were among the first to
deploy during Operation Desert Shield where they immediately established an around-the-clock radar screen. During Desert Storm, AWACS flew more than 400 missions and logged more than 5,000 hours of on-station time, providing radar surveillance and control for more than 120,000 coalition sorties. In addition to providing senior leadership with time-critical information on the actions of enemy forces, E-3 controllers assisted in 38 of the 40 air-to-air kills recorded during the conflict. Following Desert Storm, AWACS remained vigilant in Southwest Asia as a critical element of Operation Northern Watch enforcing U.N. Security Council resolutions.

- - It has a Multi-Role Radar system.

 

[notorious ausiee]

blind patriotic. You are that deluded? India has not even developed a radar system for LCA and here they are claiming to indigenously developing a AEW, my foot.

and look at what these pathological lairs claim.



India requested IAI for the supply of radars for its fighter jet project and here pathological lair DRDO is claiming of developing a AEW. pfff..
Indians use to brag about Dhruv being "indigenous" but not until Amnesty International report exposed actual origin of this chopper, lol and not even 5% has "indigenous" Indian technology. and then they come up with ridiculous analogies like.... oooo even F-22 is not 100% American.

pakistan even cant make motorcycle on their own and they claim indigenous jets and other system, my foot

First learn manners.

Secondly your knowledge is limited. Pakistan does make indigenous motorcycles, try googling. No we've not claimed JFT to be totally indegenious you are the only laloo with such thoughts go through JFT Thread. Yes Pakistan does make many indigenous systems and further R&D has been established for it.

i know manners very well and i am aware that my knowledge is very limited i dont claim high like some of people here and second thing try to teach manner to your country man (growler) first then come to me and give me a chance to show you my manners.

khuda hafiz