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Stop worry about the RMB, you should worry about the Gorbachev or Yeltsin in your party.
What will happen will happen, or as Marx said: the development of human society is a natural process.

So, we worry Nothing cos we learn Communist theory carefully and can predict the process correctly while you guys are the one need to worry cos you guys have short vision and cant predict anything correctly.
 
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Nguyen Tan Dung will soon privatize the entire Vietnam for his family and to restore the ROV.

Since his son in law is the son of a former high rank ROV official.

Funny that the PDF Viet members are still praising this thief when they have all been sold out by him.

That is correct.

In the 80s and early 90s, Vietnam is able to follow every China policy. Now when Vietnam get more "democratic" and worse, when VCP lost her control of key industrial sectors, she will not be able to dictate the country.

The way of all Oligarch is to privatize state enterprise and make their families rich. Then these rich families come back as capitalist, subsequently standing for elections or buying candidates, influencing policies and favor themselves and screwed the rest.

PDF Vietnamese will take all these shit so long as their oligarch stand on the roof and shout "fcuk China".
 
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What will happen will happen, or as Marx said: the development of human society is a natural process.

So, we worry Nothing cos we learn Communist theory carefully and can predict the process correctly while you guys are the one need to worry cos you guys have short vision and cant predict anything correctly.

The communist reverts back to the capitalist is a regression, not a progression.

Just look at USSR to Russia, it is a progression or a regression?

That is correct.

In the 80s and early 90s, Vietnam is able to follow every China policy. Now when Vietnam get more "democratic" and worse, when VCP lost her control of key industrial sectors, she will not be able to dictate the country.

The way of all Oligarch is to privatize state enterprise and make their families rich. Then these rich families come back as capitalist, subsequently standing for elections or buying candidates, influencing policies and favor themselves and screwed the rest.

PDF Vietnamese will take all these shit so long as their oligarch stand on the roof and shout "fcuk China".

If Vietnam has turned into a capitalist nation again, then they will soon see the real hostility from the PRC.

PRC is always reluctant to attack Vietnam because it still considers it as a little socialist brother, but a capitalist Vietnam won't be a such liability.
 
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The communist reverts back to the capitalist is a regression, not a progression.

Just look at USSR to Russia, it is a progression or a regression?



If Vietnam has turned into a capitalist nation again, then they will soon see the real hostility from the PRC.

PRC is always reluctant to attack Vietnam because it still considers it as a little socialist brother, but a capitalist Vietnam won't be a such liability.
Soviet was not the communist state base on Marx's idea. Communist state come from HIGH industrialized nation like UK, France, not from Russia.
 
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Soviet was not the communist state base on Marx's idea. Communist state come from HIGH industrialized nation like UK, France, not from Russia.

But it was still much closer to the Marxism than today's Russia.

Russia's superpower status was built on the communism, although it was not the ideal communism proposed by Karl Marx.

Without the communism, Russia has been greatly weakened. And Ukraine wouldn't be a problem if USSR still exists.
 
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That is correct.

In the 80s and early 90s, Vietnam is able to follow every China policy. Now when Vietnam get more "democratic" and worse, when VCP lost her control of key industrial sectors, she will not be able to dictate the country.

The way of all Oligarch is to privatize state enterprise and make their families rich. Then these rich families come back as capitalist, subsequently standing for elections or buying candidates, influencing policies and favor themselves and screwed the rest.

PDF Vietnamese will take all these shit so long as their oligarch stand on the roof and shout "fcuk China".
VCP dont control economic key sectors, but it controls police-military forces and those forcea willing to burn up CN,Sing,TW,US factories like in the last riots if you guys dont follow our rules :)

But it was still much closer to the Marxism than today's Russia.

Russia's superpower status was built on the communism, although it was not the ideal communism proposed by Karl Marx.

Without the communism, Russia has been greatly weakened. And Ukraine wouldn't be a problem if USSR still exists.
Soviet , VN, CN applied Lenin's communist idea which can skip the capitalist stage and go strait to communist society.

So, there is no regression in VN since we r on the way to industrialized nation. Maybe regression happen in CN when its economy is in big trouble now due to TPP.
 
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Soviet , VN, CN applied Lenin's communist idea which can skip the capitalist stage and go strait to communist society.

So, there is no regression in VN since we r on the way to industrialized nation. Maybe regression happen in CN when its economy is in big trouble now due to TPP.

The TPP is make sure that you guys getting exploited by the capitalist multinational corporations for the eternity, not to help you guys to become an industrialized communist superpower.
 
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VCP dont control economic key sectors, but it controls police-military forces and those forcea willing to burn up CN,Sing,TW,US factories like in the last riots if you guys dont follow our rules :)


Soviet , VN, CN applied Lenin's communist idea which can skip the capitalist stage and go strait to communist society.

So, there is no regression in VN since we r on the way to industrialized nation. Maybe regression happen in CN when its economy is in big trouble now due to TPP.

Vietnam is a funny country with one party rule and the party cannot control key economic sector. Meanwhile the state department of PM Nguyen, the army, the North gang, South gang, and various institution all under VCP controls much of the economics sector but do not heed VCP boss.

That is why I say from the start Vietnam is not a mess of grid lock and anarchy.

What is different between you guys and warlord Myanmar?
 
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Vietnam is a funny country with one party rule and the party cannot control key economic sector. Meanwhile the state department of PM Nguyen, the army, the North gang, South gang, and various institution all under VCP controls much of the economics sector but do not heed VCP boss.

That is why I say from the start Vietnam is not a mess of grid lock and anarchy.

What is different between you guys and warlord Myanmar?

Nguyen Tan Dung was once a faithful communist follower during his youth.

However, due his South Vietnamese background, these ROV mentalities can be so contagious even for an elite VCP member.
 
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Vietnam is a funny country with one party rule and the party cannot control key economic sector. Meanwhile the state department of PM Nguyen, the army, the North gang, South gang, and various institution all under VCP controls much of the economics sector but do not heed VCP boss.

That is why I say from the start Vietnam is not a mess of grid lock and anarchy.

What is different between you guys and warlord Myanmar?
The different is that you envy with the benefit VN will get in TPP and try to lie on PDF.

Keep lying, man nothing change in the real life. Discussion end and let time answer you.

Btw: follow our rule when in VN ...or your factories will be burn again :laugh:
 
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China might be the last nation few nation to industrialize. TPPA and TTIP is US way to secure overseas market before the next technological revolution. Higher technological entry to the market would make small player pawns. So far the trend right now is where the few will monopolize wealth, with technology driving the ever wealth inequality from technological unemployment.

LOL The problem with this type of circular argument with Vietcong or VC mentality stricken Viet in here (which denote an attitude and a state of mind observed during NAM i.e. exaggeration, habitual lying as well as their coolie mentality)is that you are wasting your TIME and getting NOWHERE, as one senior poster Tai Shang timely advised me.


1. TPPA was an original idea hijacked from EAEC modified to give USA corporations more BARGAINING power than the rest of the member states.

2. The reasons why FOLKS esp. the mostly uneducated nationalistic Khmer Krom Vietnam thinks they are getting a good deal is because they are BRAINWASHED into acceptance e.g. have any Vietnamese seen the agreement or the fine print to be precise 1000 pages.

3. In a democracy like Philippines, the present ruling government knew it will be suicidal to proceed and present such a secret package from the ordinary folks. The opposition will exploit and slaughtered them in the process in the coming election.

4. VIETNAM being a RED COMMUNIST STATE whose authoritarian grip on the population is described as between three quarter way from North Korea and PRC has NO such burden.

5. From the little information we gather , OBAMA’s USA adopted a NEW STRATEGY in order to FAST TRACK TPPA the bill to the extent of even betraying the American voters and consumers e.g. it only required 51% approval from lawmakers to pass the bill but it will required 2/3 the number to reject it once it is passed.

6. In Malaysia, although the ruling junta has signed the pact despite public objections. NOBODY outside of the chosen few knew anything about the deal. Furthermore it will NOT PRESENT it in Parliament until the eleven hours citing NO TIME for debate during the current session (What? NO TIME to debate an important bill that involved ordinary folks like the TPPA?) and will only be present in January 2016 where it happened to be the deadline for Malaysia to accept the deal. Meanwhile everything about TPPA is hidden and secret. Anyone discussing it or in possession of a copy is against the law using the Official Secret Act. That is TPPA – MALAYSIAN PROSPECTIVE.

7. From the little information, we gathered, the TPPA is NOT an equivalent deal between each states e.g. while USA can has total ACCESS to New Zealand farm, it has NO FREE ACCESS to Canadian farm under their agreement, Japan farm subsidies is trade off with Japanese Automobile being subjected to the same USA tax for the next 30 years meaning NO CHANGE.

8. As for the SMALLER PARTNERS like Vietnam or Malaysia, since they have NOTHING TO OFFER in return except for US1 dollar sweatshops, they will be eventually squeezed like a ball. The WONDERFUL THING for these low IQ individuals, they are so brainwashed they never stop to even ponder for a minute. In this respect, the FILIPINO and INDONESIA are certainly SMARTER than them. I guess the RED Vietnamese have NO CHOICE as it is NOT FOR THEM to decide.

9. But in the meantime, we know USA corporation esp. pharmaceutical firms can now cracked down on generic drugs because their expired patent right has just been extended from 12 years to 30 or 36 years. We can ask 1000X but we can expects NO ANSWER until it happens.

Next some interesting facts:

1. Every year China adds 4 Vietnam to its ECONOMY.

2. Vietnam’s annual GDP is only a fraction of “The Pearl River Delta Economics Zone” and so for some misinformed journalists from SCMP to assume just because due to competition which is a fact, some factories are closing down there, it does not represent a future trend. So IMO the article is SHALLOW and ILLOGICAL e.g. it pointed out that Wintek closed down. The truth is Wintek closed down because it lost its biggest customer “iPhone deal” to other competitors also based in China e.g. Pagatron, Lens, etc. There are over 1000 touch screen makers alone in China alone because they existed because of China’s huge domestic market. If they are relocated to Vietnam, who are they going to sell to if China refuse to buy them like Vietnam furniture after the riot? How come they could not export it to the other nation. Think LOGISTICALLY.

3. As Tai Shang sarcastically remarked about VW moving to Vietnam and India much to the delight of some ill-informed VC who also thought that the VW is to rename their brand VW as VcW meaning VIETCONG WAGON. VW annual sales in China in 2014 is 3.67 million cars against its global sales of 10.2 million from the other 99 worldwide factories. I think VW have 20 factories in China alone which still could not meet its demand.
 
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In 60s, your leader told our leader that CN want to send pple to S.E.Asian nations like Laos, Thai cos CN have 500 millions hungry peasants.....and with 500 million hungry peasant, CN still in 8th ???

Man, you r true Ah Q that LuXun wrote about :laugh:

So, are you disputing the number of Chinese GDP in 1970s? Or are you disputing the GDP number of all other nations on the planet at the time?
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BTW, 1960s are not 1970s. By 1970, China already completed four five-year-plans, which allows it to establish an industrial base and transform away from an agrarian nation into an industrial one. Something Vietnam has yet to done after close to four decades of unification.
 
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So, are you disputing the number of Chinese GDP in 1970s? Or are you disputing the GDP number of all other nations on the planet at the time?
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BTW, 1960s are not 1970s. By 1970, China already completed four five-year-plans, which allows it to establish an industrial base and transform away from an agrarian nation into an industrial one. Something Vietnam has yet to done after close to four decades of unification.
I still remember a Cnese showed me the list with CN GDP per capital in 1978 was just 170-180 $ , seem like your economy in 60s ans 70s didnt have any big different.
 
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