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We must thank Jinnah for his wisdom that he rejected such proposal of annexing Burmese territory to East Pakistan / Bangladesh. Rohingyas and Bangladeshis are rivals. We Bangladeshis make fun of anyone who is uncultured and behave weirdly as Rohingyas. They are hated by majority of Bangladeshis because they are involved in theft, smuggling, bred like rabbits, primitive mentality, militant mentality, using fake Bangladeshi ID card and going abroad with Bangladeshi passport.


Jinnah and the Rohingyas
By Yasser Latif Hamdani

pakistan-and-the-rohingyas-1433966855-3807.jpg


A number of ill-informed articles have appeared in the national press recently which have taken a rather strange line: Jinnah is responsible for the plight of Rohingyas in Burma. Jinnah – who died in 1948- is supposed to be responsible for the plight of Burmese Muslims in 2015 because in 1948 the Muslims of Arakan i.e. Burma appealed to him to help them secede (the Mayu region) from Burma and join East Pakistan. Jinnah refused stating that such an event would be tantamount to interference in Burmese affairs. He further advised the Burmese Muslims to work for their rights as citizens of Burma. Rohingyas as such constituted a very small percentage of the Burmese population and the idea that they could claim territory on that basis was preposterous. Ultimately a number of Rohingyas did move to the then East Pakistan – now Bangladesh. Jinnah had given a personal assurance to General Aung San (father of Aung San Suu Kyi) that he was not a supporter of the secessionist plan. (See Pages 96-97 of the book “Muslims of Burma” by Moshe Yegar) Should Jinnah or subsequent rulers have gone to war to annex part of Burma where in any event there were no contiguous Muslim regions? Such a move would unjustified morally, ethically, legally and practically.

The contradictions of Jinnah’s critics are remarkable. On the one hand they accuse Jinnah of “annexing” Kalat (even though no princely state in the subcontinent was allowed to go independent), though it must be said to their “credit” that they have never raised a voice against the genocide of Hyderabadi Muslims in 1948 by the Dominion of India during Operation Polo. Nevertheless they would have wanted Jinnah to invade Burma and take over a part of its territory through war. And because Jinnah refused to go to war with Burma to annex parts of it to East Pakistan, “he is responsible for the plight of Rohingya today”. The best case that Rohingyas have today is that they were, they are and they will be the natives of Burma – and that was the advice the Quaid-e-Azam gave them. Pakistan in any event has no moral claim to speak for Rohingyas given the absolute hash of things we have made vis a vis our own religious minorities. The case of Rohingyas does not lie in saying that they are Bengalis or Pakistanis or what have you. The case of Rohingyas is that they are citizens of Burma- a right denied to them by the Citizenship Act of 1982. This rhetoric therefore by certain sections is counterproductive because it shows that Arakan Muslims never wanted to be part of Burma. Citizenship is very different from nationalism. Nations can straddle states and boundaries. Citizenship however is the social compact between the state and the individual. Muslims of Burma want to be citizens of Burma (as they were advised by Jinnah in 1948). 90 million Muslims with 60 million living in contiguous units of a subcontinent under multiple tiers of sovereignty asking for a homeland is very different from a small minority of less than a million staking claim to separatism.

http://pakteahouse.net/2015/06/12/jinnah-and-the-rohingyas/
 
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We must thank Jinnah for his wisdom that he rejected such proposal of annexing Burmese territory to East Pakistan / Bangladesh.


Jinnah and the Rohingyas
By Yasser Latif Hamdani

pakistan-and-the-rohingyas-1433966855-3807.jpg


A number of ill-informed articles have appeared in the national press recently which have taken a rather strange line: Jinnah is responsible for the plight of Rohingyas in Burma. Jinnah – who died in 1948- is supposed to be responsible for the plight of Burmese Muslims in 2015 because in 1948 the Muslims of Arakan i.e. Burma appealed to him to help them secede (the Mayu region) from Burma and join East Pakistan. Jinnah refused stating that such an event would be tantamount to interference in Burmese affairs. He further advised the Burmese Muslims to work for their rights as citizens of Burma. Rohingyas as such constituted a very small percentage of the Burmese population and the idea that they could claim territory on that basis was preposterous. Ultimately a number of Rohingyas did move to the then East Pakistan – now Bangladesh. Jinnah had given a personal assurance to General Aung San (father of Aung San Suu Kyi) that he was not a supporter of the secessionist plan. (See Pages 96-97 of the book “Muslims of Burma” by Moshe Yegar) Should Jinnah or subsequent rulers have gone to war to annex part of Burma where in any event there were no contiguous Muslim regions? Such a move would unjustified morally, ethically, legally and practically.

The contradictions of Jinnah’s critics are remarkable. On the one hand they accuse Jinnah of “annexing” Kalat (even though no princely state in the subcontinent was allowed to go independent), though it must be said to their “credit” that they have never raised a voice against the genocide of Hyderabadi Muslims in 1948 by the Dominion of India during Operation Polo. Nevertheless they would have wanted Jinnah to invade Burma and take over a part of its territory through war. And because Jinnah refused to go to war with Burma to annex parts of it to East Pakistan, “he is responsible for the plight of Rohingya today”. The best case that Rohingyas have today is that they were, they are and they will be the natives of Burma – and that was the advice the Quaid-e-Azam gave them. Pakistan in any event has no moral claim to speak for Rohingyas given the absolute hash of things we have made vis a vis our own religious minorities. The case of Rohingyas does not lie in saying that they are Bengalis or Pakistanis or what have you. The case of Rohingyas is that they are citizens of Burma- a right denied to them by the Citizenship Act of 1982. This rhetoric therefore by certain sections is counterproductive because it shows that Arakan Muslims never wanted to be part of Burma. Citizenship is very different from nationalism. Nations can straddle states and boundaries. Citizenship however is the social compact between the state and the individual. Muslims of Burma want to be citizens of Burma (as they were advised by Jinnah in 1948). 90 million Muslims with 60 million living in contiguous units of a subcontinent under multiple tiers of sovereignty asking for a homeland is very different from a small minority of less than a million staking claim to separatism.

http://pakteahouse.net/2015/06/12/jinnah-and-the-rohingyas/


Hi,

By this time---Jinnah Sahib was breathing his last breaths---. Neither did he have any energy---nor any resource to take anymore tasks at hand---.
 
I hoped he refused to take Bengali's too .. but

Bangladeshis should have remained in India as East Bengal but religious violence in Bengal let us secede from India and join Pakistan and Jinnah could not refuse East Bengal as part of Pakistan. Culturally we are very close to India's Bengal but due to historical reasons we are separate from Indian Bengalis.
 
Bangladeshis should have remained in India as East Bengal but religious violence in Bengal let us secede from India and join Pakistan and Jinnah could not refuse East Bengal as part of Pakistan. Culturally we are very close to India's Bengal but due to historical reasons we are separate from Indian Bengalis.
Bengal should have been a separate Muslim state , from kolkatta to chitagong, that way no animosity with Pakistan ever , 2 strong ideological Muslim allies surrounding their arch nemesis,
Yet what happened happened and now the scars are too long and deep to be repaired
 
Bangladeshis should have remained in India as East Bengal but religious violence in Bengal let us secede from India and join Pakistan and Jinnah could not refuse East Bengal as part of Pakistan. Culturally we are very close to India's Bengal but due to historical reasons we are separate from Indian Bengalis.

Hi,

You are better off as a separate country---you own flag to salute to---have no worries of another nation dictating you---.

If Jinnah was alive today---he would have admitted the the alliance of east and west pakistan was an un-natural alliance---just two brothers with separate houses joined together to form a union to make a sphere of influence of their own---and then after some time---they went their ways---both independent---.

This union and separation was a blessing in disguise---.

At least muslim bengal did not fck up like the Sikh's---. Look at the sikhs now---. A place they cannot call home---no freedom---forever at the mercy of others---. Desparately looking for a separate homeland---.
 
Bangladeshis should have remained in India as East Bengal but religious violence in Bengal let us secede from India and join Pakistan and Jinnah could not refuse East Bengal as part of Pakistan. Culturally we are very close to India's Bengal but due to historical reasons we are separate from Indian Bengalis.

Good, Trust me i would be so happy if India take you guys as one of their state , rather than giving you independence . Well its not too late, you can still merge your country into Gangaland .
 
We must thank Jinnah for his wisdom that he rejected such proposal of annexing Burmese territory to East Pakistan / Bangladesh. Rohingyas and Bangladeshis are rivals. We Bangladeshis make fun of anyone who is uncultured and behave weirdly as Rohingyas. They are hated by majority of Bangladeshis because they are involved in theft, smuggling, bred like rabbits, primitive mentality, militant mentality, using fake Bangladeshi ID card and going abroad with Bangladeshi passport.


Jinnah and the Rohingyas
By Yasser Latif Hamdani

pakistan-and-the-rohingyas-1433966855-3807.jpg


A number of ill-informed articles have appeared in the national press recently which have taken a rather strange line: Jinnah is responsible for the plight of Rohingyas in Burma. Jinnah – who died in 1948- is supposed to be responsible for the plight of Burmese Muslims in 2015 because in 1948 the Muslims of Arakan i.e. Burma appealed to him to help them secede (the Mayu region) from Burma and join East Pakistan. Jinnah refused stating that such an event would be tantamount to interference in Burmese affairs. He further advised the Burmese Muslims to work for their rights as citizens of Burma. Rohingyas as such constituted a very small percentage of the Burmese population and the idea that they could claim territory on that basis was preposterous. Ultimately a number of Rohingyas did move to the then East Pakistan – now Bangladesh. Jinnah had given a personal assurance to General Aung San (father of Aung San Suu Kyi) that he was not a supporter of the secessionist plan. (See Pages 96-97 of the book “Muslims of Burma” by Moshe Yegar) Should Jinnah or subsequent rulers have gone to war to annex part of Burma where in any event there were no contiguous Muslim regions? Such a move would unjustified morally, ethically, legally and practically.

The contradictions of Jinnah’s critics are remarkable. On the one hand they accuse Jinnah of “annexing” Kalat (even though no princely state in the subcontinent was allowed to go independent), though it must be said to their “credit” that they have never raised a voice against the genocide of Hyderabadi Muslims in 1948 by the Dominion of India during Operation Polo. Nevertheless they would have wanted Jinnah to invade Burma and take over a part of its territory through war. And because Jinnah refused to go to war with Burma to annex parts of it to East Pakistan, “he is responsible for the plight of Rohingya today”. The best case that Rohingyas have today is that they were, they are and they will be the natives of Burma – and that was the advice the Quaid-e-Azam gave them. Pakistan in any event has no moral claim to speak for Rohingyas given the absolute hash of things we have made vis a vis our own religious minorities. The case of Rohingyas does not lie in saying that they are Bengalis or Pakistanis or what have you. The case of Rohingyas is that they are citizens of Burma- a right denied to them by the Citizenship Act of 1982. This rhetoric therefore by certain sections is counterproductive because it shows that Arakan Muslims never wanted to be part of Burma. Citizenship is very different from nationalism. Nations can straddle states and boundaries. Citizenship however is the social compact between the state and the individual. Muslims of Burma want to be citizens of Burma (as they were advised by Jinnah in 1948). 90 million Muslims with 60 million living in contiguous units of a subcontinent under multiple tiers of sovereignty asking for a homeland is very different from a small minority of less than a million staking claim to separatism.

http://pakteahouse.net/2015/06/12/jinnah-and-the-rohingyas/
We Bangladeshis make fun of anyone who is uncultured and behave weirdly as Rohingyas. They are hated by majority of Bangladeshis because they are involved in theft, smuggling, bred like rabbits, primitive mentality, militant mentality, using fake Bangladeshi ID card and going abroad with Bangladeshi passport.

So racist. Yet this is what people think of Bangladeshis in london or dubai etc.
 
We must thank Jinnah for his wisdom that he rejected such proposal of annexing Burmese territory to East Pakistan / Bangladesh. Rohingyas and Bangladeshis are rivals. We Bangladeshis make fun of anyone who is uncultured and behave weirdly as Rohingyas. They are hated by majority of Bangladeshis because they are involved in theft, smuggling, bred like rabbits, primitive mentality, militant mentality, using fake Bangladeshi ID card and going abroad with Bangladeshi passport.


Jinnah and the Rohingyas
By Yasser Latif Hamdani

pakistan-and-the-rohingyas-1433966855-3807.jpg


A number of ill-informed articles have appeared in the national press recently which have taken a rather strange line: Jinnah is responsible for the plight of Rohingyas in Burma. Jinnah – who died in 1948- is supposed to be responsible for the plight of Burmese Muslims in 2015 because in 1948 the Muslims of Arakan i.e. Burma appealed to him to help them secede (the Mayu region) from Burma and join East Pakistan. Jinnah refused stating that such an event would be tantamount to interference in Burmese affairs. He further advised the Burmese Muslims to work for their rights as citizens of Burma. Rohingyas as such constituted a very small percentage of the Burmese population and the idea that they could claim territory on that basis was preposterous. Ultimately a number of Rohingyas did move to the then East Pakistan – now Bangladesh. Jinnah had given a personal assurance to General Aung San (father of Aung San Suu Kyi) that he was not a supporter of the secessionist plan. (See Pages 96-97 of the book “Muslims of Burma” by Moshe Yegar) Should Jinnah or subsequent rulers have gone to war to annex part of Burma where in any event there were no contiguous Muslim regions? Such a move would unjustified morally, ethically, legally and practically.

The contradictions of Jinnah’s critics are remarkable. On the one hand they accuse Jinnah of “annexing” Kalat (even though no princely state in the subcontinent was allowed to go independent), though it must be said to their “credit” that they have never raised a voice against the genocide of Hyderabadi Muslims in 1948 by the Dominion of India during Operation Polo. Nevertheless they would have wanted Jinnah to invade Burma and take over a part of its territory through war. And because Jinnah refused to go to war with Burma to annex parts of it to East Pakistan, “he is responsible for the plight of Rohingya today”. The best case that Rohingyas have today is that they were, they are and they will be the natives of Burma – and that was the advice the Quaid-e-Azam gave them. Pakistan in any event has no moral claim to speak for Rohingyas given the absolute hash of things we have made vis a vis our own religious minorities. The case of Rohingyas does not lie in saying that they are Bengalis or Pakistanis or what have you. The case of Rohingyas is that they are citizens of Burma- a right denied to them by the Citizenship Act of 1982. This rhetoric therefore by certain sections is counterproductive because it shows that Arakan Muslims never wanted to be part of Burma. Citizenship is very different from nationalism. Nations can straddle states and boundaries. Citizenship however is the social compact between the state and the individual. Muslims of Burma want to be citizens of Burma (as they were advised by Jinnah in 1948). 90 million Muslims with 60 million living in contiguous units of a subcontinent under multiple tiers of sovereignty asking for a homeland is very different from a small minority of less than a million staking claim to separatism.

http://pakteahouse.net/2015/06/12/jinnah-and-the-rohingyas/
@Black_cats
 
Bengal should have been a separate Muslim state , from kolkatta to chitagong, that way no animosity with Pakistan ever , 2 strong ideological Muslim allies surrounding their arch nemesis,
Yet what happened happened and now the scars are too long and deep to be repaired
Hi,

You are better off as a separate country---you own flag to salute to---have no worries of another nation dictating you---.

If Jinnah was alive today---he would have admitted the the alliance of east and west pakistan was an un-natural alliance---just two brothers with separate houses joined together to form a union to make a sphere of influence of their own---and then after some time---they went their ways---both independent---.

This union and separation was a blessing in disguise---.

At least muslim bengal did not fck up like the Sikh's---. Look at the sikhs now---. A place they cannot call home---no freedom---forever at the mercy of others---. Desparately looking for a separate homeland---.
Good, Trust me i would be so happy if India take you guys as one of their state , rather than giving you independence . Well its not too late, you can still merge your country into Gangaland .
Please do not take this hindutva traitor, fifth column of Bharat as a legitimate Bangladeshi. None of the opinion of this snake represent Bangladeshi viewpoint. East Bengal Muslim were the biggest supporter of separate Muslim homeland before partition. Our sheer number of Muslims who stood behind the Pakistan movement and our capable leaders like HS Suhrawardy, AK Fazlul Haque, Khwaza Nazimuddin, Maulana Bhashani immensely strengthen the Muslim League and Jinnah Sahib to fight for Pakistan. In 1946 election, 98 percent Bengali Muslims voted for Pakistan. It was foregone conclusion that East Bengal will not remain with India by any means.
 
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Its a good thing that West and East Pakistan seperated , it was inevitable. All three are better off now after partition and developing at their own pace ,no burden of each other
Positive for us was creation of Bangladesh , 2 hostile Pakistans would have been huge trouble for us.
Formation of Bangladesh is as important to Bengalis as to Indians
Thank you Sheikh Mujib , Indira Gandhi , Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and Yahya Khan
 
Well its not too late, you can still merge your country into Gangaland .

Nope, we got enough issues as it is.

We (whatever BD ppl overall intent/desire on it) prefer to have benefits of selecting which sections of Bangladesh we conduct business/trade/friendly relations with...and make sure they are well represented in the elite and govt there.

We don't want any drawbacks of having to deal with riffraff who make up huge majority there. Thats for BD society to deal with. We got enough of that on our own plate we need to address first without adding more.
 
We Bangladeshis make fun of anyone who is uncultured and behave weirdly as Rohingyas. They are hated by majority of Bangladeshis because they are involved in theft, smuggling, bred like rabbits, primitive mentality, militant mentality, using fake Bangladeshi ID card and going abroad with Bangladeshi passport.

Why they became uncultured is not that they born uncultured but due to lack of proper education job opportunity they are now involve in many criminal activities . in fact criminals are taking advantage of their vulnerabilities .
If they had join us with some patch of land from Burma current Rohingya crisis would not born we would have little bit of more land . only problem could now as we enjoying a homogeneous country of around 98% bengali , the percentage would be reduced to 90-95%.
 
We Bangladeshis make fun of anyone who is uncultured and behave weirdly as Rohingyas. They are hated by majority of Bangladeshis because they are involved in theft, smuggling, bred like rabbits, primitive mentality, militant mentality, using fake Bangladeshi ID card and going abroad with Bangladeshi passport.
As usual, i see your countrymen doubt your credentials owing to your hard hitting, fact-laden statements but don't let that deter you. Burmese are considered as savages by the Bangladeshis when it's the other way around. Rohingyas are the most backward and regressive thinking community in our neck of the woods.

I would even welcome a Bangladeshi to my state, but these Rohingyas-never ever.. Though Bangladeshis are maintaining distance from the Rohingyas they want other countries to house them! Sheer duplicity, imo.
 
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