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When Indian Army troops kissed the ground on re-occupying territory in Arunachal

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One thing you realize after seeing what has happened over the last few years is that India and Indians have a very feeble grasp of history and live in a fantasy world
Absolutely, But the issue is their schools, history books, and media, they are brainwashed completely. Met a fruitcake on the net who claimed India is not a 3rd world country... That's the icing on the cake.. :-)
 
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India is not even real India/Hind, it's the biggest case of identity crisis in human history, 1.4 billion people growing up thinking they are something they're not. True India is Sindh and Western Punjab.
If French called their South-East Asian possessions French China and left and the newly independent land called itself China wouldn't that be ridiculous? It's close to but not quite China. What kind of idiots adopt European mistakes into national identity.. f*ckin idiots.
Tell me just because europeans discovered the west indies before rest of America does that make them any more real than rest of America?
 
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For all practical purposes a country has a sovereign status. It takes its own decisions. In this regard India is a country - seventh largest in in terms of area and second largest in terms of population to be precise.

The World has lumber 1 population and lumber 1 land area, does it become a natural country if Uncle Sam united it by force like Brits did with Indian continent?

People often confuse country to be a homogeneous entity - with a common culture, common language.

Yeah what else do you need a country for? Want to return to the era when imperial families owned half of continents like family owned properties without regard for ethnic/linguistic boundaries?
Still, for the sake of argument, India as a country has its distinct culture. The entire country emerged from the same strands of cultural reality.

The culture that unites the continent is Victorian Era British culture. It is the one binding glue, and all pervasive.
It's funny in Western countries Indian uncles tell whites "in our kalchar we.." and go on to lecture about a social norm the Whites left behind hundred years ago.

Have you ever wondered why your women cover their breasts? "Indian" culture? Here is real pre-Islamic gangadeshi culture, preserved in the island of Bali (sorry Mods!):

Chandragupta Maurya initially a Hindu (which he didn’t know then) after ruling the country from Pataliputra fasted to death as per the Jain practice of sallekhana in Shravanbelagola (in present Karnataka)

Hinduism didn't exist. It's a term created by British to incorporate all South Asian non-Muslims. The ancient texts don't say Chandragupta was Hindu. People didn't even know what Hindu meant.

The great Rajendra Chola from the present Tamil Nadu assumed the title of Gangaikonda Cholan after the victory over the Pala dynasty of Bengal

This is India. This is India’s history.

No, no man. That is the history of Bengal. And Tamil Nadu. Even during Mughal times we didn't call ourselves Hindustanis. Or Indians.

India has been a separate geographical entity. India has been a melting point of cultures,

That is so contradictory. Calling something "separate" and "melting/meeting point" in the same line, lol.

Every region on Earth is a melting point. So was India (Sindh and Western Punjab). You have no right to steal their identity.

Tell me just because europeans discovered the west indies before rest of America does that make them any more real than rest of America?

You are looking at things from a very Eurocentric perspective. You have been mentally colonized.

West Indies was not discovered before rest of America. That's European perspective, not native perspective. Natives entered through Alaska, that was the first region to be discovered!

And it doesn't matter what Europeans call them, Indians or Americans. They are neither. They are what they call themselves, Sioux, Apache, Inca, Inuits, and whatever else.
 
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It's funny in Western countries Indian uncles tell whites "in our kalchar we.." and go on to lecture about a social norm the Whites left behind hundred years ago.

Have you ever wondered why your women cover their breasts? "Indian" culture? Here is real pre-Islamic gangadeshi culture, preserved in the island of Bali (sorry Mods!):
card00085_fr.jpg
@SQ8 @waz @LeGenD Please take strict action against this mad man. This is against the forum rules
 
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The clash of Indian Army troops with Chinese soldiers in Arunachal Pradesh last month has brought into focus another successful thwarting of Chinese designs by an Indian Army brigade in 1986. Major General P K Batra (retd) was commanding the Mountain Brigade, which was at the forefront in re-capturing a crucial height and recovering remains of Indian soldiers who died in hand-to-hand fighting at the same place in the 1962 war. He spoke to The Indian Express:
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Officers involved in Op Falcon including then Brig PK Batra. (Express Photo)

Q. Does the recent clash with PLA troops in the Tawang sector rekindle memories of Op Falcon? Is the place of the recent stand-off somewhere close to where the previous one occurred?

Batra
: The recent clash at Yangtse does not exactly rekindle memories of ‘Op Falcon’. Yangtse lies 25-30 km northeast of Tawang and lies on our side of Line of Actual Control (LAC) and this post is occupied by our troops. The Chinese claim this post like many others along the LAC as on their side, hence keep creating skirmishes to keep the matter of dispute on LAC alive. However, our boys were ready and thwarted their intentions to occupy this post. The reinforcements in the form of QRTs (quick reaction teams) at brigade level further upset the Chinese plan and after a scuffle, which lasted for a couple of hours, they left, with minor injuries on both sides. The skirmish was at brigade level.

Q: Please give a gist of the operation your brigade undertook in Op Falcon.
Batra
: Op Falcon was a stand-off between the PLA and us and lasted for over a year. The Chinese claim Arunachal as theirs but during Op Falcon, their intention seemed to be to claim Thagla, Khinzamane etc. In 1985, they established a post at Samdrong Chu/Wangdung with a view to creep up and occupy Lungrola Pass. Their presence was reported by one of our patrols and Lungrola was occupied by us, thus thwarting their aim. They subsequently built up this post to over a company strength. This place and Hathungla are to the northwest of Tawang. Chinese patrols were sighted on Thagla, coming down to Namka Chu. Hathungla is across Namka Chu.
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Chinese soldiers after being confronted by Indian soldiers in Arunachal Pradesh in Op Falcon. (Express Photo)

I was commanding 77 Mountain Brigade, which was deployed to thwart the Chinese intention to creep up further from Wangdung. Slowly but steadily, we surrounded this post from all sides. However, we were not allowed to capture this post. They were like sitting ducks. This and the capture of Hathungla are two major achievements of the Indian Army at that point in time.

Q: What was the level of operational preparedness in your brigade when you were asked to re-occupy Hathungla? Did the move come as a surprise to you?
Batra
: We were eyeball-to-eyeball at Wangdung. The Chinese did try to move up and we opened fire and they ran back. One had to be alert 24×7 and one could not let the guard down. In our discussions, we felt the Chinese will try and occupy Hathungla and therefore we may have to pre-empt that from happening. So we started preparing for this operation. My boys were excited when we got the green signal.

Q: What was your assessment of the intentions of the PLA forces and how far they were willing to extend the face-off at that time?

Batra
: My assessment was they were in a tight spot at Lungrola. On a few occasions, we saw choppers carrying dead bodies from Wangdung. They could not pull out as it would be tantamount to accepting defeat. They could try and occupy some other area and negotiate. My personal feeling is their morale was low. They were looking for an honourable exit.

Q: What kind of logistics problems did you face at the time to deal with the situation?

Batra
: The road to Lumla (road head) was a series of potholes connected with each other. From there to Lumpo, my Brigade HQ, and to Lungrola, a distance of over 15 km, only a mule track was available. My brigade was maintained by mules and Air Force – a force that never fails you. The Indian Air Force did a wonderful job. The weather was foul, yet they managed air drops, sometimes the parachutes would drift due to strong winds, luckily the locals would retrieve them for us. Our IAF choppers would manage to sneak through foul weather at Lumpo. Every few minutes, a chopper will land. Whilst one is being unloaded, one is hovering above to land. My boys named Lumpo as ‘Lumpo International Helipad’. I was very lucky as both my GOC, Maj Gen J M Singh, from The Brigade of The Guards and my Corps Commander, Lt Gen Narhari, from the Corps of Engineers were hardcore professional soldiers who ensured my brigade should have no problems. We had no control over weather, it could be snowing or raining for days together. We had very anxious moments when my DQ would tell me, “We are very low on…”

Q: As you look back, what is the most remarkable thing that comes to your mind about Op Falcon?

Batra
: When we re-occupied Hathungla, the boys with me knelt and kissed the ground. The Indian soldier is remarkably brave, obedient, highly motivated, disciplined and patriotic. I have love and respect for the ‘62 brave hearts.

Kissed the land or kissed Chinese a$$ and later holded his ears as a punishment with a black and blue face :lol: I have a pictures to show as a proof but indians says that's Phake photoshop.
 
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It's funny in Western countries Indian uncles tell whites "in our kalchar we.." and go on to lecture about a social norm the Whites left behind hundred years ago.

Have you ever wondered why your women cover their breasts? "Indian" culture? Here is real pre-Islamic gangadeshi culture, preserved in the island of Bali (sorry Mods!):
card00085_fr.jpg
@SQ8 @waz @LeGenD Please take strict action against this man. This is against the forum rules
Kissed the land or kissed Chinese a$$ and later holded his ears as a punishment with a black and blue face :lol: I have a pictures to show as a proof but indians says that's Phake photoshop.




 
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@SQ8 @waz @LeGenD Please take strict action against this mad man. This is against the forum rules

It's educational, not p0rn you pervert.

Anyways you get the point, the native culture of where you live has mostly been erased (otherwise your women would be walking topless) so what you see as your 'culture uniting all of akhand bharat mata' is mostly colonial era British culture which is why we South Asians adapt well and migrate en masse to Western countries compared to Arabs or Chinese.
 
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The World has lumber 1 population and lumber 1 land area, does it become a natural country if Uncle Sam united it by force like Brits did with Indian continent?



Yeah what else do you need a country for? Want to return to the era when imperial families owned half of continents like family owned properties without regard for ethnic/linguistic boundaries?


The culture that unites the continent is Victorian Era British culture. It is the one binding glue, and all pervasive.

It's funny in Western countries Indian uncles tell whites "in our kalchar we.." and go on to lecture about a social norm the Whites left behind hundred years ago.

Have you ever wondered why your women cover their breasts? "Indian" culture? Here is real pre-Islamic gangadeshi culture, preserved in the island of Bali (sorry Mods!):
card00085_fr.jpg




Hinduism didn't exist. It's a term created by British to incorporate all South Asian non-Muslims. The ancient texts don't say Chandragupta was Hindu. People didn't even know what Hindu meant.



No, no man. That is the history of Bengal. And Tamil Nadu. Even during Mughal times we didn't call ourselves Hindustanis. Or Indians.



That is so contradictory. Calling something "separate" and "melting/meeting point" in the same line, lol.

Every region on Earth is a melting point. So was India (Sindh and Western Punjab). You have no right to steal their identity.



You are looking at things from a very Eurocentric perspective. You have been mentally colonized.

West Indies was not discovered before rest of America. That's European perspective, not native perspective. Natives entered through Alaska, that was the first region to be discovered!

And it doesn't matter what Europeans call them, Indians or Americans. They are neither. They are what they call themselves, Sioux, Apache, Inca, Inuits, and whatever else.
Wow those boobs are in perfect shape even without wearing a bra .
 
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The World has lumber 1 population and lumber 1 land area, does it become a natural country if Uncle Sam united it by force like Brits did with Indian continent?



Yeah what else do you need a country for? Want to return to the era when imperial families owned half of continents like family owned properties without regard for ethnic/linguistic boundaries?


The culture that unites the continent is Victorian Era British culture. It is the one binding glue, and all pervasive.

It's funny in Western countries Indian uncles tell whites "in our kalchar we.." and go on to lecture about a social norm the Whites left behind hundred years ago.

Have you ever wondered why your women cover their breasts? "Indian" culture? Here is real pre-Islamic gangadeshi culture, preserved in the island of Bali (sorry Mods!):
card00085_fr.jpg




Hinduism didn't exist. It's a term created by British to incorporate all South Asian non-Muslims. The ancient texts don't say Chandragupta was Hindu. People didn't even know what Hindu meant.



No, no man. That is the history of Bengal. And Tamil Nadu. Even during Mughal times we didn't call ourselves Hindustanis. Or Indians.



That is so contradictory. Calling something "separate" and "melting/meeting point" in the same line, lol.

Every region on Earth is a melting point. So was India (Sindh and Western Punjab). You have no right to steal their identity.



You are looking at things from a very Eurocentric perspective. You have been mentally colonized.

West Indies was not discovered before rest of America. That's European perspective, not native perspective. Natives entered through Alaska, that was the first region to be discovered!

And it doesn't matter what Europeans call them, Indians or Americans. They are neither. They are what they call themselves, Sioux, Apache, Inca, Inuits, and whatever else.
100% Valid. You are well read sir.
 
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Even if that's true then they died like honorable soldiers. Nothing like the humiliation indian army faced
 
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India is not even real India/Hind, it's the biggest case of identity crisis in human history, 1.4 billion people growing up thinking they are something they're not. True India is Sindh and Western Punjab.
If French called their South-East Asian possessions French China and left and the newly independent land called itself China wouldn't that be ridiculous? It's close to but not quite China. What kind of idiots adopt European mistakes into national identity.. f*ckin idiots.
I agree with all of this, you are right. “India” needs to be renamed to East India at a minimum or Gangastan.
 
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Hinduism didn't exist. It's a term created by British to incorporate all South Asian non-Muslims. The ancient texts don't say Chandragupta was Hindu. People didn't even know what Hindu meant
The first Vernal Equinox recorded in Rig Veda is that of star Ashwini, which is reported to have occurred around 10,000 BC. Subash Kak, a Computer Engineer and reputed Indologist, decoded the RigVeda and found many astronomical concepts therein.

This is clearly an indication of the fact that the Hinduism is at least 10,000 BC old as Rig Vedas are the first books on hindu thought
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This is how far Hinduism had spread at its greatest territorial extent

All of the Indian subcontinent was already in the sway of Hindu culture.

Also note, Vedic culture and Buddhist beliefs had penetrated as far as Afghanistan and beyond, Ancient Iran had a cultural tradition very similar to Vedic Hinduism (even sharing many of the same Gods) and similar rituals, for example worship using fire altars and the like. People from such dispaarate ethnic backgrounds as the Scythians of central Asia and the Yeuzhi (the Kushans) of the Chinese mainland and the Greeks (Yavanas) have appropriated Hindu ideals and customs.

So saying that Hinduism is a domestic religion is grossly inaccurate statement, many of these regions still practice Hindu customs and rituals, which have cross-pollinated with local culture to create some stunningly beautiful imagery.
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This is from Bali, Indonesia

And here is Lord Ram…..from Thailand
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The largest religious monument in existence, also happens to be the largest Hindu temple complex known, dedicated to Vishnu, it is situated in Cambodia, hundreds of miles from the Indian mainland:
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I agree with all of this, you are right. “India” needs to be renamed to East India at a minimum or Gangastan.

The definition could be extended to incorporate Eastern Punjab, Haryana and Western UP as East India because of geographical proximity to ancient Hind (Sindh and Pak Punjab), but entire continent is definitely not any India, East or not. Gangastan is better, or Brahmin Raj (1947 was just a change of elites).
 
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