When coterminous Pakistan fought Alexander the Great and almost brought him down to his knees.

[Mentee]

Thank you I must say I'm particularly proud of the fact many of my family members were active in philantrophy and we didn't practice feudalism like the supposed certain elite folks in chitral do nowadays.
Anyways The height of the Power in chitral was also during the rule of Nadir Raees ,whose empire stretched from badakshan corridor (from where our family migrated and ruled) in the middle ages eastern turkistan to all the way to Gilgit.
The contest was very much restricted to regional levels across these boundaries in coterminous Pakistan hence there was very little development in surrounding area....
Chitral was ruled by the archaemenid empire at the time of Alexander the Great and his campaigns against the persians and the locals practiced a very similar persian socio-religious lifestyle since the empire stretched all the way......

This is a famous Zoroastrian singer in Pakistan and she sings in a place where Zoroastrianism was practiced back when alexander invaded in 300bc at the time first persian empire later dissolved in 330bc.

@Mentee @Signalian bro check tis thread out.......... its awesome.

let's restore the previous pomp and might of chitral by remaining with in the constitutional limits. I'd be preforming my duties as the p.m of chitral under the patronage of his majesty northern the wizard but , with a heavy heart. Sigh!

 

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let's restore the previous pomp and might of chitral by remaining with in the constitutional limits. I'd be preforming my duties as the p.m of chitral under the patronage of his majesty northern the wizard but , with a heavy heart. Sigh!

HAHAHAHAHA no m8 .Nothing controversial around chitral ,Its all good

 

[Rafi]

If you only had my military genius; Porus aka Pervez Janjua would've won!

Nice to see you back. Where you been. Remind me of the old days.

 

[django]

@Kaptaan Congrats bro your thread has made it to

https://twitter.com/x/status/916536106086273027

and surprise surprise guess who seems to be claiming Porus , they shamefully just never give up.Kudos

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Congrats bro

Thank you. Brother. The appreciation of people from my country of origin is what inspires me to do these write ups. If I had known it was going to end on Twitter I would have placed more effort. Thanks to all including @Horus and @WebMaster

 

[django]

The appreciation of people from my country of origin is what inspires me to do these write ups

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

This Iron Age pre-Mauryan Map of the subcontinent shows that the Northwest and the South being seperate areas from the culturally contiguous areas of Aryavarta

Thought it might be relevant here...Only North Bengal can be considered part of Aryavarta , with Kajangala and Bardhaman forming the eastern most borders

@Kaptaan You might find this interesting....this is from the start of recorded history of the subcontinent (including Gandhara)....the first disciples of Buddha passed through Gandhara on the way to Magadha


non-coloured places are forests,wilderness and jungle tribes and at best rural civilizations

 

[Chhatrapati]

Thought it might be relevant here...Only North Bengal can be considered part of Aryavarta , with Kajangala and Bardhaman forming the eastern most borders

You missed some at the time of mahajapadas

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

You missed some at the time of mahajapadas
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Yaudheyas post date the Janapadas of Buddha's time..My cut off date is strictly Buddha..and only the 16 major ones have been noted

 

[Chhatrapati]

Yaudheyas post date the Janapadas of Buddha's time..My cut off date is strictly Buddha

Yes, but they were present at the time of Mahajanapadas, although in a declining state.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Yes, but they were present at the time of Mahajanapadas, although in a declining state.

Nope their zenith comes at a much much later time than the Mahajanapadas...they hit their peak after the collapse of the Mauryan Empire...else the knowledgeable Buddhist suttas would have reported on it...they report on the 16 major and some minor ones, and that is it...all of them have been mentioned in my map along with the area under their control

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Can you gentleman not gunk this thread with padas, majas etc please. This is about region coterminous to Pakistan [centred around the Indus River] or something that has strict, direct relevance with the subject of this thread. The annotated map below makes it clear. Please avoid conflating Ganga with Indus. The two are entirely separate river basins.

 

[Suriya]

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So what happened? I surmise the high IQ and high testosterone elite of the North and Frontier would go down to the plains of Punjab every second generation and establish their fiefs there and thereby constructing forts, embankments etc.....this continued till the Mughals swept in from Uzbekistan

@Juggernaut_is_here

What does it have to do with high IQ and high testosterone ??

It has more to do with riches of the plain of Punjab down to north India that attracted marauding hordes from the barren cold mountains of Afghanistan and central Asia from the beginning and Punjabis remember this innate fact very well .

You surely throw some crazy theories around .

On the other day , i was reading one of your post on Chinese cultural revolution and You couldn't stop gushing how domination of Atheism in China by the rule of by atheist communist has ushered in the stunning growth development and prospertiy we see in China today .

But you simply ignored or probably unaware of the fact that while atheist communist started ruling over China from Mid 40s and Chinese cultural revolution took place from 1966 to 1977 , the speed economy and pace of development in China remained at same space and speed of India who also had adopted communist style Nehruvian socialism ,in all these intervening period till Deng Xiaoping discarded Maoist economy and embraced Market Economy in 1980 .

Even 10 years after adoption of Market Economy and 45 years straight communist rule in china dipped in stringent Atheist values , u'll find it hard to believe Indian GDP was nearly equal to Chinese GDP in the year 1990 . Yes as recent as the year 1990 . So much for your strong belief that only atheism can bring prosperity , economic and scientific growth .

http://statisticstimes.com/economy/china-vs-india-gdp.php

@Chinese-Dragon

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

people from cold weather (but densely populated) areas tend to have higher IQ than people from warm weather...........Germans (the white ones) have higher IQ than Nigerians....The Brain has been subjected to tens of thousands of years of evolution in different parts of the world under different selective pressures..and these selective pressures were much severe in the Global North as well as in the mountainous areas during the Last Glacial Maximum...about China...Nope China had marginally better GDP per capita from 1950 onwards...and from 1979 onwards they just chugged past India...scientific temper of mind is highly important for a good economy (unless you have oil) and atheism contributes to that...but Chinese atheism is a bit of a dogmatic atheism , Western people tend to have much better critical thinking...Indians outside of the top 3-5% have neither atheism nor critical rational thinking


It is also perfectly possible that Babur had higher IQ than Lodhi coming in from super-cold Uzbekistan ....Babur showed way higher battle IQ than any commander in the Indo-Pak area..be it Hindu or Muslim


A perfect blend of IQ and testosterone wins battles


People from barren cold mountains overcame the people of the plains because of their superior military culture and battle tactics---both of them are functions of Intelligence/IQ

 

[axisofevil]

No such thing as Pakistan. These were Hindu and Buddhist kingdoms and that fought Alexander. No islm and no muslims involved. So sorry to burst your BS history

people from cold weather (but densely populated) areas tend to have higher IQ than people from warm weather...........Germans (the white ones) have higher IQ than Nigerians....The Brain has been subjected to tens of thousands of years of evolution in different parts of the world under different selective pressures..and these selective pressures were much severe in the Global North as well as in the mountainous areas during the Last Glacial Maximum...about China...Nope China had marginally better GDP per capita from 1950 onwards...and from 1979 onwards they just chugged past India...scientific temper of mind is highly important for a good economy (unless you have oil) and atheism contributes to that...but Chinese atheism is a bit of a dogmatic atheism , Western people tend to have much better critical thinking...Indians outside of the top 3-5% have neither atheism nor critical rational thinking


It is also perfectly possible that Babur had higher IQ than Lodhi coming in from super-cold Uzbekistan ....Babur showed way higher battle IQ than any commander in the Indo-Pak area..be it Hindu or Muslim


A perfect blend of IQ and testosterone wins battles


People from barren cold mountains overcame the people of the plains because of their superior military culture and battle tactics---both of them are functions of Intelligence/IQ

BS...what about Tamils? Cold weather had no effect on IQ


Or perhaps the Kings had it so good for a long time, they let their training deteriorate