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When an assertive China outsmarts a clumsy India
By G Parthasarathy
02nd June 2013

Unlike India, whose leaders and strategists are guided by Western diplomatic and strategic thinking, China is guided primarily by the strategies enunciated in the 6th century BC, in the words of one of its generals, Sun Tzu. Drawing on the sayings of Sun Tzu, China has outmanoeuvred a clumsy India, held in awe of Chinese economic and military power and its impressive infrastructure on its borders in Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh.

Sun Tzu proclaimed: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting,” adding, “All warfare is based on deception.” Under siege on its coastal frontiers over maritime territorial disputes with Japan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei and Malaysia, China’s rulers have evidently decided that it is necessary for them to keep their western frontiers with India quiet. But, for this it was necessary to force India into a position of immobilisation on its borders, which would preclude it from building its defences or infrastructure along the Ladakh-Tibet border. By moving merely 50 soldiers into Depsang in Ladakh in April, China rattled India into a virtual surrender. In Chinese/Tibetan maps between the 17th century and 1919, Depsang has been clearly depicted as being on the Ladakh side of the Ladakh-Tibet border. What China achieved by its intrusion was a pullback of Indian forces and a removal of defence structures on India’s side of the boundary and a virtual veto on India’s forward infrastructure and defence build-up on its borders. Sun Tzu would have been proud of his teachings of victory without war.

Proceeding to Pakistan while escorted in Pakistan air space by JF-17 fighters designed by Russia but supplied by China, Prime Minister Li Keqiang further rubbed India’s nose in the dust. Much of his time was spent in Islamabad on improving road connectivity through Pakistan and ****************** Kashmir. This, after he secured India’s silence by getting India to agree that “the two sides are committed taking a positive view and support each other’s friendship with other countries”. In effect, he had secured an Indian commitment not to raise inconvenient questions about Sino-Pakistan nuclear, missile and military collaboration. Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are of Chinese design, its Plutonium facilities and ballistic missiles are of Chinese origin. China has emerged as Pakistan’s largest weapons supplier, with weaponry ranging from fighter jets, to frigates and tanks.

China’s official mouthpiece Global Times gloated over what had transpired. It first ridiculed India’s concerns about Sino-Pakistan nuclear cooperation. Then for good measure it added: “India must accept and adapt to the enviable friendship between China and Pakistan. China cannot scale down this friendship merely because of Indian feelings.” New Delhi appears to have been so overawed by China’s leadership that it did not take up the significant shift that has taken place in China’s nuclear doctrine. In its recently published defence white paper, China has for the first time omitted all mention of its long-term policy of “no first use” of nuclear weapons. This implies that in the event of tensions escalating with Pakistan over a 26/11-style terrorist attack, India could conceivably face the threat of nuclear blackmail from China. While we have endorsed China’s role in the Gulf of Aden, why did we not secure a similar Chinese endorsement of an Indian role in the South China Sea? On issues of water security, we have secured no guarantee from China on prior consultations on upstream projects across the Brahmaputra. All that the Chinese have agreed to is the provision of “flood-season hydrological data”.

Having proclaimed that “the greatest victory is that which requires no battle”, Sun Tzu must be grinning in the high heavens over what China has achieved in India in a matter of a few weeks. It is perhaps time for our mandarins to do some serious reading of Kautilya’s Arthashastra and to heed Defence Minister A K Antony’s words that there can be no “miracles” in India-China relations.

Indian Strategic Studies: When an assertive China outsmarts a clumsy India
 
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India destroyed bunkers in Chumar to resolve Ladakh row, Army officers confirm - Times Of India

In addition to destroying the bunkers we asked to be destroyed, they also halted all infrastructure work in the region as well.

Also, this:

Indian troops suspend patrols at Chumar - Times Of India

NEW DELHI: Apart from dismantling a set of strategically-located bunkers at Chumar as part of an arrangement to end the standoff at Depsang Bulge in eastern Ladakh, the Indian troops seem to have suspended patrols to the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Chumar, at least for now. Senior officials briefed by personnel on the ground said the Army has discontinued the round-the-clock patrolling it was undertaking in the area for the last few months, ever since the Chinese troops withdrew from Depsang last Sunday.

So they have stopped patrolling in Chumar as well.
 
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Its not about who made a fool out of the other.

China and India are playing a game of chess. They think that it is much better to decide it on a game of chess than running over each other.

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Its not about who made a fool out of the other.

China and India are playing a game of chess. They think that it is much better to decide it on a game of chess than running over each other.

This is the game we are playing:

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They think that it is much better to decide it on a game of chess than running over each other.

Luckily, the game has not turned violent so far.
 
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Plz we removed a tin shed in ladakh,no infrastructure has been halted.Ur govt itself declared it.And patrols are now to patrol deeper,not suspend,if u have read recent reports.
 
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its better to get some a$$ whooping in paper rather than in the battlefield. u can sort out diplomacy but u cant undead the ppl who laid down their lives fighting an egoistic war.
 
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Plz we removed a tin shed in ladakh,no infrastructure has been halted.Ur govt itself declared it.And patrols are now to patrol deeper,not suspend,if u have read recent reports.

You should read my post so I don't have to quote it again:

Indian troops suspend patrols at Chumar - Times Of India

NEW DELHI: Apart from dismantling a set of strategically-located bunkers at Chumar as part of an arrangement to end the standoff at Depsang Bulge in eastern Ladakh, the Indian troops seem to have suspended patrols to the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Chumar, at least for now. Senior officials briefed by personnel on the ground said the Army has discontinued the round-the-clock patrolling it was undertaking in the area for the last few months, ever since the Chinese troops withdrew from Depsang last Sunday.

India dismantled "a set of strategically-located bunkers at Chumar".

And India has stopped patrolling there, according to Senior officials in the Indian Army.
 
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Go to the indian defence section a few pages back,reports saying indian army now to patrol deeper.And indian officials saying we removed a tin shed.And these are later reports than the ones u posted.
 
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Its bound to happen better to increase our strength. but one thing is for sure this will really effect India-China relations.
 
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The Indian counter move was the Indo Japanese security pact, that region is the one that will hurt China the most. India was on the fence, but the fool hardiness made us more assertive - as for halting patrolling and suspending infrastructure - the intensity for both has doubled now and in all likelihood, the chinese will not be able to pull a similar stunt again. Its a huge border and hard to cover the entire stretch - but the intrusion was detected within 6 hours and was nullified after even the most ardent chinese supporter in India acknowledging that China is our enemy.

As for Pakistan, we have a favourable leadership there and probably for a long time.No matter who wins in Pakistan (out of the 3), they'll want better relations with India.

A big price to pay for a minor victory - I would say, Sun Tzu must be turning in his grave.
 
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As for Pakistan, we have a favourable leadership there and probably for a long time.No matter who wins in Pakistan (out of the 3), they'll want better relations with India.

A big price to pay for a minor victory - I would say, Sun Tzu must be turning in his grave.

That doesn't make sense.

There is zero connection between the Ladakh incident and Pakistan having a pro-Indian Prime Minister (Nawaz Sharif).
 
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The recent Ladakh incursions will have long-term impact.

Historically post 1962 Chinese incursions were regular with the intent of encouraging Pakistan to do the same.

There is also recent incursions in NE are assumed to have done with the intention of gaining better ground in the case of conflict.

The danger of recent Ladakh incursion is it may encourage Pakistan exploit the soft Indian leadership by attempting another Kargil.

I look forward to further incursions from the Chinese side. Hope the next Govt is prepared for it.

Seems like the record of not a single case of fatality or cross-border firing on Sino-Indian border since 1967 is about to come to an end.
 
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The chinese thought that India gave up and retreated from ladakh.

What has really happenned? India started to hit China where its hurst the most. Strategic alliance with Japan.

When the tiger takes a few steps backward, it doesnt mean he has given up. Its only going to come at you at a greater pace. :tup: :cheers:
 
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The chinese thought that India gave up and retreated from ladakh.

What has really happenned? India started to hit China where its hurst the most. Strategic alliance with Japan.

When the tiger takes a few steps backward, it doesnt mean he has given up. Its only going to come at you at a greater pace. :tup: :cheers:

No doubt the visit to Japan has infuriated China. But the better response should have been a strong message that India will do anything to protect her territorial integrity.
 
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