WHAT'S HAPPENING TO MUSLIMS IN INDIA 2020

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Thank God for Pakistan!

Quaid e Azam was a Wali of Allah swt. Bless his hands. So many were saved due to his unrelenting work. I and so many of my countrymen owe their very lives to him.

My family walked over dead corpses of Muslim bodies to get to Pakistan, we had to hide our women in metal drums to protect them from Hindu and Sikh kidnappers, the feet were bloody and their animals were malnourished, they did not know when they would be attacked. and yet we were from a Muslim majority area which was bordering other Muslim areas.

British drew a line in the soil, we did not know which side we were on, but when Indian mobs with prior knowledge of borders came, Muslims realized exactly.

When they reached Pakistan, they said, "We are saved only due to Allah swt and Quaid e Azam."

 

[Aspen]

Indian muslims should fight to be recognised for they being Indian rather than muslims. That's the only way to defeat any propaganda against them. If they start to look to external help, they would trading troubles with conflicts.

Muslims of India have the same issues as any sections of Indian populace. By voicing them as a collective muslim issues, they are separating themselves from the rest of India. That is why I like Owaisi, he would raise all the issues of discrimination and hate against muslims but would never compromise questions on his Indianness.

I admire Owaisi but he is all talk and no action. He has not meaningfully accomplished anything to improve the living conditions of Muslims in India.

People like Owaisi are so afraid of being called anti-national that they are more focused on proving loyalty towards Indian state and denying Pakistan that they cannot focus on their real goal which is making life of Indian Muslims better. Pakistan will always be better for South Asian Muslims, Indian Muslims can live in denial mode all they want, doesn't change the facts that Pakistan is better. If Indian Muslims are serious about demanding dignity, they will have to forget about being Indian because the state will never protect them. They will only get dignity if they believe they are Muslims first.

Indian Muslims will always be persecuted as long as they believe they are Indians first and Muslims second.

I am a Muslim first and Pakistani second.

 

[El Sidd]

Let that Imran instead of crying all the time about persecution of muslims in India, offer something of the sort you are proposing. That way he could demonstrate his sincerity. If Indian muslims rush to Pakistan like you believe (lol), you might show that to the world and ask for more land as a trade. You might even get whole of Kashmir if that is accomplished.

such mass migrations are a thing of the past.

73 years ago, a percentile migrated and that resulted in over a million deaths.

The current migration crisis in India due to COVID19 is leading to hundreds of deaths already.

Pakistan does not have the means to support Indian muslims in a material way. Kashmir issue is the only bone of contention as far as Pakistanis are concerned.

Moral support always will be there for any group of people or nation under tyranny and oppression.

We have little interest in making this a religious issue between the two nation states

 

[Hiptullha]

dont have violent minority like we havr here.

I've seen videos of you chimps ganging up on defenceless and unarmed people and lynching them. The problem with India is a violent majority of H's.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I admire Owaisi but he is all talk and no action. He has not meaningfully accomplished anything to improve the living conditions of Muslims in India.

People like Owaisi are so afraid of being called anti-national that they are more focused on proving loyalty towards Indian state and denying Pakistan that they cannot focus on their real goal which is making life of Indian Muslims better. Pakistan will always be better for South Asian Muslims, Indian Muslims can live in denial mode all they want, doesn't change the facts that Pakistan is better. If Indian Muslims are serious about demanding dignity, they will have to forget about being Indian because the state will never protect them. They will only get dignity if they believe they are Muslims first.

Indian Muslims will always be persecuted as long as they believe they are Indians first and Muslims second.

I am a Muslim first and Pakistani second.

Pakistani hearts are bigger than anyone. When the time comes, we will help anyone in need. My ancestors fed and clothed Sikhs and Hindus, put their children through education, but when the time came, they backstabbed us and even killed Hindus and Sikhs who were friendly to Muslims.

 

[crankthatskunk]

This is so much of BS. Only Pakistanis believe such a nonsense. Why not provide sanctuary to Indian muslims and show to the world how persecuted they are? You won't because that would bust your propaganda. Take care and thank you Jinnah for separating stupids from us.

Don't you worry, this clever typically Hindu's psychological dishonesty is not going to work.
Muslims of India are going to create another Pakistan by dividing India , nobody is migrating to Pakistan. Pakistan would not accept any refugees as the BJP Saffron wielding goons are thinking and hoping.
What we will do instead is help and support the Muslims of India to get their independence.
This is gonna happen, sooner or later. More Modi does his terrorists actions and deeds. Quicker the India would be divided again, and again.

 

[Vikram.veda]

I admire Owaisi but he is all talk and no action. He has not meaningfully accomplished anything to improve the living conditions of Muslims in India.

People like Owaisi are so afraid of being called anti-national that they are more focused on proving loyalty towards Indian state and denying Pakistan that they cannot focus on their real goal which is making life of Indian Muslims better. Pakistan will always be better for South Asian Muslims, Indian Muslims can live in denial mode all they want, doesn't change the facts that Pakistan is better. If Indian Muslims are serious about demanding dignity, they will have to forget about being Indian because the state will never protect them. They will only get dignity if they believe they are Muslims first.

Indian Muslims will always be persecuted as long as they believe they are Indians first and Muslims second.

I am a Muslim first and Pakistani second.

In India, all other religious groups believe they are Indian first. Muslims have been facing troubles precisely because of their muslimness. Owaisi is an MP for god sake because he placed his belief in Indian constitution. Abdul Kalam, AR Rahman, Moulana Azad are all our heroes because for the same reason. As long as Indian muslims take up ideals from across the border and think they are superior/separate to other religions existing in India, there will be a push back.

Don't you worry, this clever typically Hindu's psychological dishonesty is not going to work.
Muslims of India are going to create another Pakistan by dividing India , nobody is migrating to Pakistan. Pakistan would not accept any refugees as the BJP Saffron wielding goons are thinking and hoping.
What we will do instead is help and support the Muslims of India to get their independence.
This is gonna happen, sooner or later. More Modi does his terrorists actions and deeds. Quicker the India would be divided again, and again.

You'll become nobody in a decade or two. What you are suggesting is only a wet dream.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Don't you worry, this clever typically Hindu's psychological dishonesty is not going to work.
Muslims of India are going to create another Pakistan by dividing India , nobody is migrating to Pakistan. Pakistan would not accept any refugees as the BJP Saffron wielding goons are thinking and hoping.
What we will do instead is help and support the Muslims of India to get their independence.
This is gonna happen, sooner or later. More Modi does his terrorists actions and deeds. Quicker the India would be divided again, and again.

Pakistan cannot take in 200 million Indian Muslims. Just not possible logistically. Even with 5 million Afghans, we are struggling to take care of them. Plus, we gained many other refugees from BD and Rohingya over the years.

 

[Vikram.veda]

such mass migrations are a thing of the past.

73 years ago, a percentile migrated and that resulted in over a million deaths.

The current migration crisis in India due to COVID19 is leading to hundreds of deaths already.

Pakistan does not have the means to support Indian muslims in a material way. Kashmir issue is the only bone of contention as far as Pakistanis are concerned.

Moral support always will be there for any group of people or nation under tyranny and oppression.

We have little interest in making this a religious issue between the two nation states

Oh I am not predicting a mass migration at all. No body would want to move to Pakistan except for some mullah oriented people. So your expectation of mass migration in this day is not going to happen. At least we can get rid of Pakistani bent people. Let Imran man up and offer Indian muslims an opportunity and see for himself what Indian muslims think of Pakistan.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I have never met any Indian Muslim that identified as any other nationality. They are Indians. The founding fathers of India, including Gandhi, Nehru, Patel convinced them to stay.

 

[Hiptullha]

Let that Imran instead of crying all the time about persecution of muslims in India, offer something of the sort you are proposing. That way he could demonstrate his sincerity. If Indian muslims rush to Pakistan like you believe (lol), you might show that to the world and ask for more land as a trade. You might even get whole of Kashmir if that is accomplished.

Lol look at the crocodile tears of this H. Classic H hypocrisy. He has no problem when his elected leaders tell people to go to Pakistan but will start whining when people start "otherizing" themselves because they're being treated differently.

 

[El Sidd]

Oh I am not predicting a mass migration at all. No body would want to move to Pakistan except for some mullah oriented people. So your expectation of mass migration in this day is not going to happen. At least we can get rid of Pakistani bent people. Let Imran man up and offer Indian muslims an opportunity and see for himself what Indian muslims think of Pakistan.

I am pretty sure a barren water less country like Pakistan is of no glory to Indian Muslims either.

It's the rented hippie liberals who can't get much of India here in Pakistan.

 

[Aspen]

Pakistani hearts are bigger than anyone. When the time comes, we will help anyone in need. My ancestors fed and clothed Sikhs and Hindus, put their children through education, but when the time came, they backstabbed us and even killed Hindus and Sikhs who were friendly to Muslims.

Exactly. Pakistan hosted more refugees than any other country in the world at one time. Afghan refugees came to Pakistan in the hundreds of thousands. Was it easy? No. But if you are Muslim first, you will understand that being Muslim crosses boundaries. If a Muslim is in need, you should help them in a reasonable way if you can. Despite Pakistan having political differences with Afghanistan, it did not turn away Afghan refugees who sought refuge.

Nobody is forcing Indian Muslims to come to Pakistan. It is their choice. If they want to stay in India and be lynched, that is their choice. If they want to come to Pakistan and have a new life, that is their choice. All I am saying is that if they want to come to Pakistan, offer is on the table for them. Pakistan will not turn them away.

If Indian Muslims want to stay in a Nazi RSS state, it's not going to be Pakistan's loss. Those that can afford to go to the west should go there, for the rest of Indian Muslims who cannot afford it, it's either Pakistan or Nazi RSS India.

 

[Vikram.veda]

Exactly. Pakistan hosted more refugees than any other country in the world at one time. Afghan refugees came to Pakistan in the hundreds of thousands. Was it easy? No. But if you are Muslim first, you will understand that being Muslim crosses boundaries. If a Muslim is in need, you should help them in a reasonable way if you can. Despite Pakistan having political differences with Afghanistan, it did not turn away Afghan refugees who sought refuge.

Nobody is forcing Indian Muslims to come to Pakistan. It is their choice. If they want to stay in India and be lynched, that is their choice. If they want to come to Pakistan and have a new life, that is their choice. All I am saying is that if they want to come to Pakistan, offer is on the table for them. Pakistan will not turn them away.

If Indian Muslims want to stay in a Nazi RSS state, it's not going to be Pakistan's loss. Those that can afford to go to the west should go there, for the rest of Indian Muslims who cannot afford it, it's either Pakistan or Nazi RSS India.

If you believe Indian muslims could prefer to stay in India then why the propaganda as if all muslims are in line to run out of this country and get to Pakistan (lol). I promise you even if Imran man up to offer such to Indian muslims not even 5% would actually move to Pakistan. Majority moving would be mullahs. If 95% are willing to stay back, what that say to the world. That Pakistanis need to shut up about their persecution because there is none.

Lol look at the crocodile tears of this H. Classic H hypocrisy. He has no problem when his elected leaders tell people to go to Pakistan but will start whining when people start "otherizing" themselves because they're being treated differently.

You must be pretty dull. I talked about this in my first post. Only way to stop 'otherisation' of a community is to assert oneness with the rest of India and fight for equal treatment. And not do what @Aspen was suggesting (asserting muslimness).

 

[Hiptullha]

You must be pretty dull. I talked about this in my first post. Only way to stop 'otherisation' of a community is to assert oneness with the rest of India and fight for equal treatment

No, I just thought that point was retarded, so I ignored it. Owaisi's been trying to prove his patriotism for years now and you'll be able to find pajeets right here calling him an anti-national and a traitor. It doesn't work, so stop thinking you're saying something profound, you stupid H.