Whats behind Hezbullah's success ?

[DavidSling]

Those billions go to defense systems that America uses smartass

Pakistan's budget is 7.6 billion USD and look what they have managed to make: A crappy army made of M48s, T54/55s, Type 59s, Type 63s which are basically copies of Russian cold war tanks, Type 69 which is a copy of the T-62s and more crappy tanks you call them Al Khalid, what a miracle, an army that is so weak that has military usage of their training aircrafts, what a miracle, an army that still mostly use F7 fighter aircraft and Mirage 3s and 5s, very nice miracle

Our tiny sized tiny population has more money than you without any aid while you have yours

Go shit in your streets

Don't bother, u'll get ur self banned for nothing

 

[hussain0216]

Those billions go to defense systems that America uses smartass

Pakistan's budget is 7.6 billion USD and look what they have managed to make: A crappy army made of M48s, T54/55s, Type 59s, Type 63s which are basically copies of Russian cold war tanks, Type 69 which is a copy of the T-62s and more crappy tanks you call them Al Khalid, what a miracle, an army that is so weak that has military usage of their training aircrafts, what a miracle, an army that still mostly use F7 fighter aircraft and Mirage 3s and 5s, very nice miracle

Our tiny sized tiny population has more money than you without any aid while you have yours

Go shit in your streets

The Americans can spend their own money on their own equipment and people, they dont need to give it to you so you can fund their defence contractors

Thats just an excuse to justify the crazy amounts the U.S tax payer has to fund israel all because of the insidious tentacles of the zionists in the U.S.A

Pakistan in its short history has been involved in many wars and proxy wars and we are still standing, our main enemy is 7 times our size in population.
We took on the Soviets in Afghanistan
We even gave israeli air force a spanking when our pilots took on yours in the same crappy planes the arabs could only lose in

If our countries were next to each other and you took out the nuclear equation we would beat you into the ground

 

[Beny Karachun]

The Americans can spend their own money on their own equipment and people, they dont need to give it to you so you can fund their defence contractors

Thats just an excuse to justify the crazy amounts the U.S tax payer has to fund israel all because of the insidious tentacles of the zionists in the U.S.A

Pakistan in its short history has been involved in many wars and proxy wars and we are still standing, our main enemy is 7 times our size in population.
We took on the Soviets in Afghanistan
We even gave israeli air force a spanking when our pilots took on yours in the same crappy planes the arabs could only lose in

If our countries were next to each other and you took out the nuclear equation we would beat you into the ground

Seems like they do. the Americans know that we have brain, and give us money for defense systems, while they give you MRAPs and weapons because you don't have any.

Alright Israel controls the world fine

Israel is just as old as Pakistan and beat up enemies hundreds of times its size, You? I am pretty sure those were the Mujaheddin that beat them, only because of Israeli and American supply.

You? gave us a spanking? ahahaha, In what world? you really believe that you shot down any of our jet fighters?
Also the Soviets lost against us in air battles, in the war of Attrition.

Look what we were capable of doing, tripling our size in one war, what have you managed to do? loosing almost all of its land in a few years

If we were near you I can assure you Israel would be a little bit larger within the next 6 days

 

[Serpentine]

2) They can't even stop army from advancing. They can inflict casualties but no more.

That's the irony. In 2006, 5000 elite Israeli soldiers besieged small town of Bent Jbeil, raided it, and rained 3000 artillery on it (basically leveling it to the ground), but couldn't take the town from 150 Hezbollah fighters, ending as one of the most humiliating defeats for IDF. Yeah they can't stop an army.

Battle of Bint Jbeil

 

[Star Wars]

That's the irony. In 2006, 5000 elite Israeli soldiers besieged small town of Bent Jbeil, raided it, and rained 3000 artillery on it (basically leveling it to the ground), but couldn't take the town from 150 Hezbollah fighters, ending as one of the most humiliating defeats for IDF. Yeah they can't stop an army.

Battle of Bint Jbeil

WTF ..... is this true ??

 

[dani958]

you chuken iran why are you give weapon to hizballa and not atack by your self?

you chuken iran why are you give weapon to hizballa and not atack by your self?[/QUOT
come atack us lets see who win

iran are chiken

 

[500]

That's the irony. In 2006, 5000 elite Israeli soldiers besieged small town of Bent Jbeil, raided it, and rained 3000 artillery on it (basically leveling it to the ground), but couldn't take the town from 150 Hezbollah fighters, ending as one of the most humiliating defeats for IDF. Yeah they can't stop an army.

Battle of Bint Jbeil

So much nonsense in that post.

1) Israel had not plans to take Bint Jbeil. Israeli soldiers took its outskirts all dominating positions and advanced further.
2) Because of small resistance at outskirts one infantry battalion was sent into the city to check if Hezbies fled. In ambush 6 Israeli soldiers and 20 Hebzies were killed and they returned to previous plan.
3) Bint Jbeil was not leveled. Its fine.
4) When IDF started moving deep to Lebanon in Marjaoyun and Ghanduriyeh, Hezbies could not even detain for half day this movement.

Nothing like that was in Arab Israeli wars. Many times entire IDF divisions were stopped and could not advance.

 

[Hack-Hook]

3) The number of casualties they inflict is also tiny compare to casualties inflicted by army. For example in Yom Kippur war Israel lost 2600 soldiers and 800 tanks in 16 days while in 2006 Hezbollah war Israel lost 120 soldiers and 5 tanks in 34 days.

So overall Hezbollah is a shiny bubble with lots of hot air.

I wonder if you included the difference in the number if the soldiers in those two conflict .

If we only count ground forces you folded 30000 soldiers against 1000-1500 Hezbollah fighter it means roughly 20 soldier to one soldier and its without navy and aurforce . in yom Kippur war you fielded 400000 soldiers against 1000000 soldiers of combined Arab forces . so I say Hezbollah was far more efficient than Arab forces in that war.

 

[500]

I get it that you don't like Hezbollah. But that's misinformation right there, or you don't really know about the Battle of Al-Qusayr. A lot of analysts say that the battle went well because of Hezbollah. And in the 1st day of the battle, the SAA, after Hezbollah joined were in control of 60% of the city. And it took them 2 weeks and 3 days to win the battle.

Hezbies recklessly attacked the city, thinking they are super fighters who will overran peasants with rusty AK easily. And they lost 100 without achieving anything.

Then Assadist air force and artillery leveled down town and this is how Hezbies managed to capture it.

Whats even more striking that is Zabadani, which is totally enricled and thousands of barrels were dropped on it. Still Hezbies could not take it after months of attacks.

And regarding the Yom Kippur war and 2006 Hezbollah war. You should mention that Hezbollah only had a few hundred soldiers compared to Israels tens of thousands of soldiers as well as Israel having tanks,air power etc in the 2006 war. And in the Yom Kippur war, There were close to a million soldiers on the Arab side and Israel had 415000 soldiers. So of course there will be more casualties in that war.

Thats what I am saying. Hezbollah is a small force, without armor and heavy artillery. Thats why hey are much more immune to air attacks and encirclement. But in same time they cant achieve much except launching rockets at civilians: they cant capture a shyt, they cant protect a shyt they cant inflict much casualties.

 

[dani958]

that because isreal army dont want to kill civilian wich i think they should be dead if the hizballa fighters will dead too

 

[Hack-Hook]

So much nonsense in that post.

1) Israel had not plans to take Bint Jbeil. Israeli soldiers took its outskirts all dominating positions and advanced further.
2) Because of small resistance at outskirts one infantry battalion was sent into the city to check if Hezbies fled. In ambush 6 Israeli soldiers and 20 Hebzies were killed and they returned to previous plan.
3) Bint Jbeil was not leveled. Its fine.
4) When IDF started moving deep to Lebanon in Marjaoyun and Ghanduriyeh, Hezbies could not even detain for half day this movement.

Nothing like that was in Arab Israeli wars. Many times entire IDF divisions were stopped and could not advance.

What are you meaning by deep . you fielded 20 time more forces than Hezbollah but only managed to advance 15 to 20km inside Lebanon you even only could reach lithany river at one point and that was after 20 day

that because isreal army dont want to kill civilian wich i think they should be dead if the hizballa fighters will dead too

Let see .
Killing 400 Hezbollah fighter and 1200 Lebanese civilian and on the other side Hezbollah who only attacked civilians managed to kill 112 soldiers and 60 civilians.

 

[DavidSling]

What are you meaning by deep . you fielded 20 time more forces than Hezbollah but only managed to advance 15 to 20km inside Lebanon you even only could reach lithany river at one point and that was after 20 day


Let see .
Killing 400 Hezbollah fighter and 1200 Lebanese civilian and on the other side Hezbollah who only attacked civilians managed to kill 112 soldiers and 60 civilians.

when they'll stop hiding behind their citizens, and we'll insure only hizballa members will die in next war, probably an Iranian tactic...

 

[dani958]

i want to see iran atack us cowards

 

[500]

What are you meaning by deep . you fielded 20 time more forces than Hezbollah but only managed to advance 15 to 20km inside Lebanon you even only could reach lithany river at one point and that was after 20 day.

Israel could easily take Beirut in 1 week. But what for? What would we achieve by that? - Nothing.

We are not dumb like Khamenai and Assad who fight over Aleppo in province that was not and never wiull be Shia.

 

[Beny Karachun]

What are you meaning by deep . you fielded 20 time more forces than Hezbollah but only managed to advance 15 to 20km inside Lebanon you even only could reach lithany river at one point and that was after 20 day


Let see .
Killing 400 Hezbollah fighter and 1200 Lebanese civilian and on the other side Hezbollah who only attacked civilians managed to kill 112 soldiers and 60 civilians.

So what if we fielded more troops? you really think all of the troops we fielded went inside Lebanon? most of them stayed in the border just like in 2014 Gaza war.

750 Hezbollah fighters died*
And maybe if they wouldn't hide behind civilians there wouldn't be so many dead civilians.

I think you forgot that every Israeli house has a safe room against rocket attacks and more, this is why we had such a low casualty rate.