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What would you prefer: Carbine or Sub Machine gun ?

Your preference in CQB ?

  • SMG

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Carbine

    Votes: 6 66.7%
  • SMG with +p ammo or armour piercing ammo

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Full blown rifle

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Total voters
    9
  • Poll closed .
The USAF used to do a better job of arming aircrews than they do now. During the cold war, each seat kit (bailout kit) had a gun called the M-6. It was a crude sheet metal weapon, double-barreled over/under, with a .410 gauge shotgun under a .22 Hornet rifle. The .22 Hornet is somewhere between a .22 rimfire and a 5.56mm in power. The Hornet would kill a man or an animal up to deer size with ease, and the shotgun part was designed to kill birds and rabbits for food.

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This disappeared in the 1960's. We petitioned to have an M-4 carbine in the seat kit, but they decided we'd carry the 9mm Beretta.
 
The USAF used to do a better job of arming aircrews than they do now. During the cold war, each seat kit (bailout kit) had a gun called the M-6. It was a crude sheet metal weapon, double-barreled over/under, with a .410 gauge shotgun under a .22 Hornet rifle. The .22 Hornet is somewhere between a .22 rimfire and a 5.56mm in power. The Hornet would kill a man or an animal up to deer size with ease, and the shotgun part was designed to kill birds and rabbits for food.

scout1.jpg


This disappeared in the 1960's. We petitioned to have an M-4 carbine in the seat kit, but they decided we'd carry the 9mm Beretta.

And an M-9 won't do much damage would it?

What was the ammo number?
 
I'd take a krinkov (AKS-74U). It's a nice little gun with the 5.45x39 "poison bullet". Lighter recoil than the 5.56, but in a compact package and proven AK action.
 
Here is another interesting Sub Machine Gun from Russia

The PP-2000

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It is used by the Russian Special Forces

It not only fires the regular 9mm but a special armor piercing +p version of the round too.

Unlike the German MP-7 and the Belgian P90 it does not need special ammo
 
Here is another interesting Sub Machine Gun from Russia

The PP-2000

PP-2000_with_detached_magazine.jpg


640px-PP-2000_unfolded_buttstock_view.jpg


It is used by the Russian Special Forces

It not only fires the regular 9mm but a special armor piercing +p version of the round too.

Unlike the German MP-7 and the Belgian P90 it does not need special ammo

Instead of this crap.. id buy a brusted viking pistol -russian made.
 

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