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As BBC said, more than 60 old Vietnamese communists published an open letter to the Central Committee of the party “to abandon the socialist, no longer dependent on Chinese." The letter also urged Vietnam to put China to the international court about South China Sea dispute. "

USA voice said," Vietnam's Communist leaders haven't replied. In the past, the Viet Cong never reply similar petition. The letter's contents did not appear in the mainstream media in Vietnam, but the Vietnamese netizens discuss the matter on the social networking site.

In fact, a country's political organization form, is the choice of history, is the people's choice, is formed through fierce revolution, is suitable for each country, no country can be criticized, no system must be better than others.
After the revolutionary struggle, Vietnam chose the socialist road and now has been nearly 70 years, why now try to give up the socialist road?


As the letter points Vietnam had to give up his belief in order to get rid of China. Has China inflicted Socialist upon Vietnam or China now controlled Vietnam communist party or China now control Vietnam economy? The answer is obviously NO; Vietnam is an independent country. this argument about socialism and China is from American because this is what American most wants to see if Vietnam discard its belief and went into chaos and then under American control.

The present situation shows the successful effect of American’s cultural infiltration and peaceful evolution, another victory of USA ideology.

The Vietnamese authorities should have learned this trick when Prime Minister of Vietnam launched a nationwide parade to put pressure on China, and the final turned into looting.If such looting and riot could not be stop in time, one can see the final result is VCP’s government overthrown.

Vietnam, not big as India, not supported as Korea, as a united country is still small, how can she survive under bloody capital jungle struggle? Should know that China succeed in the last decades because she focused country’s strength to fight against capital invasion. That is socialism while the western called that is another kind of State capitalism.


If Vietnam regime broke down, what will happen to Vietnam? Three possibilities:

1, like former Eastern European countries, a pawn to counter RU, in the front side of big powers struggle, Vietnam will be the pawn of American to face China. What the benefits Vietnam can get from it when she did not get rid of China but also under American control. And only being a pawn of American to counter China, Vietnam has value in American eye, otherwise, just a junk.

2, like Iraq, Libya, the loss of belief inevitably leads to confusing, inevitably causes Vietnam division, new parties appear, the old communists would be cleared, depends on who get the military. Then Vietnam became the hot spot on Asia. If the southern party get the power, some of the VCP leaders would have the same fates the Sadam, Al-qaddafi had. So I can predict, the next letter will be about nationalization the Vietnam military.

3, the most ideal result, new Vietnam would like Korea, Israel, gets the support from so called democratic developed countries, such as USA, or as Japan, Germany got in the 1950’s. Then the Arabic Spring finally get a positive result in the Easter Asia, Vietnam Spring.

All above have no good to China, even a bit.

Vietnamese leaders must be aware of this, we can see that from Vietnam congressional leaders, senior government recently frequent inspect the army; during the inspection, the Vietnamese army shout slogans which emphasize particularly, not unified, as premier, main slogans shouted the army is resolutely defend the reform and the fruits of victory! The president of Congress, the army is firmly safeguard national territorial integrity, to eliminate all the enemies! The general secretary, the slogan is close to unity in the CPV central, eliminate all enemy which harm national sovereignty territorial integrity!

The slogan was basically reflect the various political leanings, it also illustrates that, one, the army is also somewhat not knowing what course to take, not knowing whom to listen, two all the leaders have attached great importance to the army's political tendency, the army's position may finally decide who is the winner of this political struggle. Just as what happened in Thailand, yellow and red struggled, and finally green took the position

Nguyễn Tấn Dũng is said to establish new political party, if he successed, he maybe the Vietnam’s Yeltsin, Of course, if Ranjig had been taken, he become Vietnam's Hu, Zhao. He has much relationship with US and has many layouts in Vietnam arm and business, seems he may be the winner, however, as us-pro, he has to exchange Vietnam’s interest for the support from the US and stay in power, and otherwise he will face more “foreign invasion”. Once the benefit of Vietnam is damaged during such exchange, new surge will rise; it is very likely Vietnam become the Ukraine Asian edition.

Certainly, it is not revolution;
Evolution or involution, we have to observe.
 
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It's totally different.
After many war happened between, Vietnam is independent country and never share any naval base to China. LOL
Vietnam never depends on China energy supply too.
 
In Ukraine, Syria it's rather the JEW NATO extremists: zionist nazis Maidan invaders separatists, zionist Al Qaeda beheaders

Nothing to see with Vietnam
 
These Vietnamese are naive and stupid. Let me tell you this. There is an internal rift in the Vietnamese Communist Party. The old comrade, the conservative fraction favored close tie with China, especially the generals that live during the US-VN war. They favor tie with China is not because they like us but they know their party survival depends on us. In order to remain and stay in power, these conservative comrade will do anything possible to avoid going to war with us. The liberal fraction which are led by their Prime Minister, favored increasing tie with the US. However here's the catch. The US will not trust a Communist state unless they change their political system. In fact, the US is more willing to support a dictator or monarchy. Anything but communist. This put Vietnam in a tough position. They can completely get rid of Communism and become the US's puppet, then the US will agree to lift arm embargo on them. However the old comrade is blocking this type of relationship because it is in their heart that they want independent. As a small state, they have little choice and option. They know their country economy depends on us. In fact, we are maybe the only country that can help fund their infrastructure project. IMO, Vietnam will undergo a color revolution eventually and we must stay alert to avoid them spilling over to other states near them.
 
I speak the truth only, my friend. @BoQ77. It is indeed very difficult to hide from me. I know too much. LOL
 
let name an old comrade in VCP, xunzi ..

from your post, we together wait for the weapon embargo lifted ...
 
I speak the truth only, my friend. @BoQ77. It is indeed very difficult to hide from me. I know too much. LOL
actually it is not your business what we do. I suggest you care of your shit, while we care of ours.
 
As the letter points Vietnam had to give up his belief in order to get rid of China. Has China inflicted Socialist upon Vietnam or China now controlled Vietnam communist party or China now control Vietnam economy? The answer is obvious; this argument is from American because this is what American most wants to see if Vietnam discard its belief and went into chaos and then under American control.

The present situation shows the successful effect of American’s cultural infiltration and peaceful evolution, another victory of USA ideology.

The Vietnamese authorities should have learned this trick when Prime Minister of Vietnam launched a nationwide parade to put pressure on China, and the final turned into looting.If such looting and riot could not be stop in time, one can see the final result is VCP’s government overthrown.

Vietnam, not big as India, not supported as Korea, as a united country is still small, how can she survival under bloody capital jungle struggle? Should know that China succeed in the last decade because she focused country’s strength to fight against capital invasion. That is socialism.

If Vietnam regime broke down, what will happen to Vietnam? Three possibilities:

1, like former Eastern European countries, a pawn to counter RU, in the front side of big powers struggle, Vietnam will be the pawn of American to face China. What the benefits Vietnam can get from it when she did not get rid of China but also under American control. And only being a pawn of American to counter China, Vietnam has value in American eye, otherwise, just a junk.

2, like Iraq, Libya, the loss of belief inevitably leads to confusing, inevitably causes Vietnam division, new parties appear, the old communists would be cleared, depends on who get the military. Then Vietnam became the hot spot on Asia. If the southern party get the power, some of the VCP leaders would have the same fates the Sadam, Al-qaddafi had. So I can predict, the next letter will be about nationalization the Vietnam military.

3, the most ideal result, new Vietnam would like Korea, Israel, gets the support from so called democratic developed countries, such as USA, or as Japan, Germany got in the 1950’s. Then the Arabic Spring finally get a positive result in the Easter Asia, Vietnam Spring.

All above have no good to China, even a bit.

Vietnamese leaders must be aware of this, we can see that from Vietnam congressional leaders, senior government recently frequent inspect the army; during the inspection, the Vietnamese army shout slogans which emphasize particularly, not unified, as premier, main slogans shouted the army is resolutely defend the reform and the fruits of victory! The president of Congress, the army is firmly safeguard national territorial integrity, to eliminate all the enemies! The general secretary, the slogan is close to unity in the CPV central, eliminate all enemy which harm national sovereignty territorial integrity!

The slogan was basically reflect the various political leanings, it also illustrates that, one, the army is also somewhat not knowing what course to take, not knowing whom to listen, two all the leaders have attached great importance to the army's political tendency, the army's position may finally decide who is the winner of this political struggle. Just as what happened in Thailand, yellow and red struggled, and finally green took the position

Nguyễn Tấn Dũng is said to establish new political party, if he successed, he maybe the Vietnam’s Yeltsin, Of course, if Ranjig had been taken, he become Vietnam's Hu, Zhao. He has much relationship with US and has many layouts in Vietnam arm and business, seems he may be the winner, however, as us-pro, he has to exchange Vietnam’s interest for the support from the US and stay in power, and otherwise he will face more “foreign invasion”. Once the benefit of Vietnam is damaged during such exchange, new surge will rise; it is very likely Vietnam become the Ukraine Asian edition.

Certainly, it is not revolution;
Evolution or involution, we have to observe.

you sound like an idiot for an educated Chinese individual.
 
actually it is not your business what we do. I suggest you care of your shit, while we care of ours.
As big brother, we have to watch out for the little guys in our corner.
 
These Vietnamese are naive and stupid. Let me tell you this. There is an internal rift in the Vietnamese Communist Party. The old comrade, the conservative fraction favored close tie with China, especially the generals that live during the US-VN war. They favor tie with China is not because they like us but they know their party survival depends on us. In order to remain and stay in power, these conservative comrade will do anything possible to avoid going to war with us. The liberal fraction which are led by their Prime Minister, favored increasing tie with the US. However here's the catch. The US will not trust a Communist state unless they change their political system. In fact, the US is more willing to support a dictator or monarchy. Anything but communist. This put Vietnam in a tough position. They can completely get rid of Communism and become the US's puppet, then the US will agree to lift arm embargo on them. However the old comrade is blocking this type of relationship because it is in their heart that they want independent. As a small state, they have little choice and option. They know their country economy depends on us. In fact, we are maybe the only country that can help fund their infrastructure project. IMO, Vietnam will undergo a color revolution eventually and we must stay alert to avoid them spilling over to other states near them.

You are right. The reason why they like dictatorship better is because they can easily overthrow them. However, majority of Vietnamese prefer to have democracy over communism. It's better to join the US than with China. US has much more to gain than China.
 
You are right. The reason why they like dictatorship better is because they can easily overthrow them. However, majority of Vietnamese prefer to have democracy over communism. It's better to join the US than with China. US has much more to gain than China.
You see, my friend. Back in the day, post WWII, the West led by the US and anyone who allied with the US back then enjoyed access to the West market, technological expertise, TOT, and money to fund infrastructure and that how those allies grew rich together under the US leadership. But there is a price to pay for that richness. You have to offer your land up for US to base and of course your women were offer to the US GI. That is just the reality of working with the US. They don't offer you this prosperous life without condition and benefit. During those day, the Communists hate Capitalists because of these exploitation. Today you are late to that party. The West is declining. Their technological lead is being challenged and narrow by the East, mostly led by China. Money is tight in the West sphere. They need those money to fund their own development. They are not going to spend outlandishly like they used to.

For you, what you choose is none of our business and we don't care. Our money is not going to be wasted and technology will not transfer to you. So of course you will make better deal with the US if they have any money left to help you. It is their issue. We remain commit to helping those we like.
 

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