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Pakistan has obsession to involve Israel in every matter since in our hearts we are scared of them. Israel is selling weapons to India which is no sherlock for anyone so what the hell with taking Israel name. Its India who wanted to attack us that's it.
 
if you want to make the Palestinian-Israeli conflict into Muslims-Jewish conflict dont blame me.
And I answered your question, you can either read it or ignore it.
But don't tag me with the same questions again, because I won't bother answering
No I just want to know the wisdom behind it. It is
In the interest of Israel and Pakistan (both) not be each others enemies. Israel can sell arms to any one it wishes it's an open market no body minds but aiding and abetting our enemy during war.?
 
You have to understand that both India and Pakistan are engaging in a massive PR/propaganda battle right now. Both nations are trying to push media narratives that can unite the nation. Some of these narratives are pushed by the government, some by quasi-government (people in the government but with their own unsanctioned agendas) and some by the populist media (journalists with their own agendas).

While my view is that the political (all major political parties) and military leadership recognizes the reality of Israel’s existence and wants to move forward with developing an official relationship with Israel, the ‘populist sentiment’ in Pakistan, especially with the Mullah rabble rousers, makes it difficult for the leadership to take such positions publicly. When ‘unsanctioned’ government and media individuals promote these Israel theories, they take on a life of their own and no one in politics wants to be seen defending Israel - there’s no domestic political benefit from it.

Even a rebuttal of these accusations could be distorted into ‘support for Israel’. Plus Pakistan is still dealing with extremist religious terorrism - any perceived ‘support’ for Israel will likely be used by these terrorist groups as further justification to conduct terrorist attacks within Pakistan.
What's more disturbing that people in this forum is buying into this propaganda
 
You have to understand that both India and Pakistan are engaging in a massive PR/propaganda battle right now. Both nations are trying to push media narratives that can unite the nation. Some of these narratives are pushed by the government, some by quasi-government (people in the government but with their own unsanctioned agendas) and some by the populist media (journalists with their own agendas).

While my view is that the political (all major political parties) and military leadership recognizes the reality of Israel’s existence and wants to move forward with developing an official relationship with Israel, the ‘populist sentiment’ in Pakistan, especially with the Mullah rabble rousers, makes it difficult for the leadership to take such positions publicly. When ‘unsanctioned’ government and media individuals promote these Israel theories, they take on a life of their own and no one in politics wants to be seen defending Israel - there’s no domestic political benefit from it.

Even a rebuttal of these accusations could be distorted into ‘support for Israel’. Plus Pakistan is still dealing with extremist religious terorrism - any perceived ‘support’ for Israel will likely be used by these terrorist groups as further justification to conduct terrorist attacks within Pakistan.
The day pakistan accepts Israel, kashmiris will be dead like a stone and then you can't say nothing to those who are still warning tht IMRAN govt is brought by jews secretly, Tht all will start a never ending civil war in Pakistan, u can say for KSA or some TINY RICH Arab nations thy may be good with Israel but pakistan or even Iran both can't handle tht there could be a lot looks good academicly, but on the ground it's has a zero value and Thts why no professer/or acedimics has ever has commanded any victory in any major conflict to any power in. This world?
And I'm sure, thy never will, it takes courage and training and crucial planning in a battle field but not the lectures, u are quite right on some of your points but, those who are advocating tht PAK ISRAEL dosti, are just paid dogs of both Israel, who been paid to show thier efforts accdemily in the press, as whole world knows how, Saudi Arabia been made ready to accept Israel and its role in Middle Est, cause of its stupid prince who thinks he can rule whole Islamic world whtevr happens after his madness in KSA it will. Be a golden history which we all be waiting to happen soon
 
Pakistan has obsession to involve Israel in every matter since in our hearts we are scared of them. Israel is selling weapons to India which is no sherlock for anyone so what the hell with taking Israel name. Its India who wanted to attack us that's it.
People like you are classified begirats... Who the **** you are to think Israel is not involved??? Do u know how intelligence works...???
 
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I find it strange that a lot of people seem to think that merelt recognising Israel will lead to solving any animosity they may hold against us. As if this is some sort of a misunderstanding that can be cleared up.

Pakistan has never really tried to actively go against Israel. If we sent pilots in some war or the other, it was in support of our allies.
We refused to recognize Israel in full support of Palestina in 1948. We supported Jordan, Syria, Egypt and Libya in their wars against the jews and drew first blood. Our pilots flew Mirages and migs and even shot down Israeli fighters in 1965. There is a reason why Israel helped India in all her wars against us.
And what did we get in return from the Ummah for our unconditional support was again demonstrated in the OIC last week where Palestinian delegation officially praised and lobbies for Indian inclusion.
By recognizing Israel we will end the animosity without becoming their allies but it has huge strategic and diplomatic gains for both of us.

I do not understand why people still oppose Israel.

Most of those allies have been pacified by the Israelis. We never really went out of our way to do anything against them.
If most of their neighbors are ok with the, why can't we?

We are, as far as we concerned, too far away from them to do anything.

The Israelis, on the other hand, gone out of their way to hurt us. I doubt its simply because they crave our recognition.
Wrong. Physical distance means nothing when they have very close ties with our arch enemy, India. In the nineties Israel attempted to bomb Kahuta and other major nuclear installation using Indian bases. The attack formation was already airborn in Israel when Indians got cold feet and called it off.
And now they are in helping in Rajhastan.

The world is changing and the Israeli power is on the decline. The US isn't the sole superpower any more.
That is the most naive thing I have heard today. Israel is a technological powerhouse and it will remain so for decades to come. Their know how in micro chipping and nano technology is only second to USA.

If Pakistan has been able to survive not recognising Israel during its peak power and when US had a far greater influence on Pakistan, I think Pakistan can manage just fine now as well.
What worked yesterday doesn't give you the assurance that it will work tomorrow. Times are changing and so is political landscape. Our only priority should be to put Pakistan first and today it is in our interest to recognize Israel.

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What benefits to India have come from befriending Israel?

If the Israelis were behind this whole thing, does anyone think it actually helped India? At best their advice was stupid and at worst they almost caused a war between two nuclear powers.
Not sure if you are naive or really ignorant (with all respect). Recognizing Israel was the game changer for India and a gateway to get into alliance with the USA. The most powerful Zionists in USA support Indian lobby. Puppets like Dana Rahrabacher who are on Indian payroll.
Israel also helped India with ToT in their missile and radar programs.

Btw, the Pulwama retaliation has a Israeli signature all over it.

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What do people actually think will happen if Pakistan actually recognises Israel?

The Israelis have interests and certain goals. Does anyone really think a powerful and prosperous Pakistan fits into their goals?

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Pakistan will gain strategic importance and a soft image. And the powerful Zionist media will be less harmful to us. If we play our cards right, we can neutralize or atleast minimize the Israeli support to the Indian war tactics.
 
No I just want to know the wisdom behind it. It is
In the interest of Israel and Pakistan (both) not be each others enemies. Israel can sell arms to any one it wishes it's an open market no body minds but aiding and abetting our enemy during war.?

You ready to throw money to US, than see what they can offer u ..
 
What's more disturbing that people in this forum is buying into this propaganda
Why u think, why our agencies are doing tht prapoganda?
India Israeli relationship isn't true ? Or Israel is pakistan best friend and would nevr go against it?
Considering thy look at it as only Muslim. country which has the Islamic bomb and can let Israel vaporized from earth????
 
People like you are classified begirats... Who the **** you are to think Israel is not involved??? Do u know how intelligence works...???

And what you are? A fuckin Israeli hater chutiya .. Typical Pakistani brainwashed since childhood about hating Jews... Hur cheez mein Israel bc...
 
Seems bullshit. Israel knows not to antagonize anyone unnecessarily. PM netanyahu was once being interviewed by Goswami. Goswami tried hard to make yahu to name Pakistan and all that terrorism rhetoric. But PM netanyahu totally avoided and was totally mature.
That was on-camera, behind the scene they are already hurting Pakistan.
 
If israel was planning the attack along with with Indians than bring tangible proofs or just shut the **** and stop bitching like India who tends to blame Pakistan on everything
 
Why u think, why our agencies are doing tht prapoganda?
India Israeli relationship isn't true ? Or Israel is pakistan best friend and would nevr go against it?
Considering thy look at it as only Muslim. country which has the Islamic bomb and can let Israel vaporized from earth????
Pakistan doesnt recognize Israel, volunteered pilots to Israeli-Arab wars,helping to anti Israeli organizations around the world, and boycott Israeli goods.
As for selling weapons to Indians, so does U.S , Russia, France and many others - You want to nuke them too?
And the best part for last,
Israel has nuclear weapons, we developed them before you, we have more means to deliver them, and we have longer and more capable missiles to do so.
You can search for Dolphin submarines, Popeye SLCM, Jericho 3 missiles and Israeli air launched missiles in your free time
 
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