What twin engine Jet Fighter Suits PAF Doctrine?

[Eagle Claw]

China don't contain Pakistan buying weapon from any other nation, or you will think our products are shoved to you as garbage.

I was little bit unsatisfied about the some negative comments from some Pakistani members, as Pakidtan buying weapon from China because it's cheap or sanction free. our weapon has quality and quantity, you guys shall pay respect to it.

PAF had the saying in it.


In my eyes, if Russia sell Su35s to Pakistan, it equals declaring war with India. I am always very wary about that. As very special relationship considered about the relationship with Pakistan, the ban on J16 export shall be fcking lifted if PAF asks. Now IA is mobilizing very frequently on the Arunalchal border with China, we shall respond to its provocation. China leader shall make clear of their minds who is friend and who is enemy, thing too much will destroy everything.

If PAF don't possess the ability of striking deep in to India territory, India will go all out against Pakistan without any scruple.

There is no disrespect to China's Weapons . . . But Quality is concern . . . As our defence is considered . . . We have to opt for the best possible option available . . . Thats not necessary that its from China . . .
If China could give J-11s to Pakistan . . . It had been opted years back . . . But as a matter of Fact . . . Russia won't allow it . . . because its license built Variant of Sukhois !

 

[帅的一匹]

There is no disrespect to China's Weapons . . . But Quality is concern . . . As our defence is considered . . . We have to opt for the best possible option available . . . Thats not necessary that its from China . . .
If China could give J-11s to Pakistan . . . It had been opted years back . . . But as a matter of Fact . . . Russia won't allow it . . . because its license built Variant of Sukhois !

It's not license built,we don't pay license fee to Russian. They agree that we can build it and service in PLAAF, and if we promot it in the international market they will get pissed off.

If Pakistani airforce need J11, we can negotiate it with Russia in the way of paying special license fee? I mean we won't export it to any other country except Pakistan? Russian will understand it.

Special case with special methods

 

[Sinnerman108]

There is no disrespect to China's Weapons . . . But Quality is concern . . . As our defence is considered . . . We have to opt for the best possible option available . . . Thats not necessary that its from China . . .
If China could give J-11s to Pakistan . . . It had been opted years back . . . But as a matter of Fact . . . Russia won't allow it . . . because its license built Variant of Sukhois !

What China can give us, is something that none else will;

That is access to technology and industrial support.

Eventually it can all come down to one things, i.e. PAF want exceptional quality; build it.

 

[帅的一匹]

Most importantly, Russia don't produce anything on J11BH.

 

[The Eagle]

Most importantly, Russia don't produce anything on J11BH.

What about J-16 in case of considering?

 

[帅的一匹]

What about J-16 in case of considering?

J16 is a beast , bomber truck. Dual engine of WS10H with 14 tons max thrust each. Newly EW type of J16 is designed to take down enemy's radar and SAM just like F18 growler. F16 is a fighter designed for attack. It is the second best fighter in PLAAF to J20.

 

[The Eagle]

J16 is a beast , bomber truck. Dual engine of WS10H with 14 tons max thrust each. Newly EW type of J16 is designed to take down enemy's radar and SAM just like F18 growler. F16 is a fighter designed for attack. It is the second best fighter in PLAAF to J20.

Thanks for info and i was asking what if PAF considers the J-16 as high tier till 5th generation, so what could be the possible restrictions for export if there any or is available unconditionally?

 

[Eagle Claw]

Most importantly, Russia don't produce anything on J11BH.

J-11 Series is the licence Build variant of SU-27 . . .
And J-11B and J-11D are its modifications . . .

What China can give us, is something that none else will;

That is access to technology and industrial support.

Eventually it can all come down to one things, i.e. PAF want exceptional quality; build it.

There are many other options also if we consider them . . . China has been a reliable friend, no doubt about that . . . But when we talk about the National Defense . . . We need things without any Quality Compromise !
Its been a false perception that only China can give us Capable things . . .

 

[The Eagle]

J-11 Series is the licence Build variant of SU-27 . . .
And J-11B and J-11D are its modifications . . .



There are many other options also if we consider them . . . China has been a reliable friend, no doubt about that . . . But when we talk about the National Defense . . . We need things without any Quality Compromise !
Its been a false perception that only China can give us Capable things . . .

Just PS.
Mate... quality is never compromised for any defence subject either us or China itself. Would China ever compromise her defence ever, not at all so quality to the extent of big doubts do not exist . Also here is no such false perception that only China can give things as every one is well aware of available, different or better things. Most important doing business with China beside friendship is no strings, flawless and trusted yet. Going for the best ever quality is like pay in huge and have the best otherwise play smart.

Pakistan Zindabad

 

[Airdef95]

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What about 5th gen J-20??
it is expected to be operational in 2018 and if i am not wrong PAF is the only potential buyer right now.

 

[T-72M1]

What about 5th gen J-20??
it is expected to be operation in 2018 and if i am not wrong PAF is the only potential buyer right now.

China are not going to sell it, it's like their F22

 

[Airdef95]

China are not going to sell it, it's like their F22

I dont think so.

 

[T-72M1]

I dont think so.

the J 31 is designated for potential export, that's the model Pak air chief was presented.

the US didn't sell the F 22 to Israel, China wont sell the J 20 to Pak.

you can ask the Chinese members here if you want.

 

[asad71]

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the J 31 is designated for potential export, that's the model Pak air chief was presented.

the US didn't sell the F 22 to Israel, China wont sell the J 20 to Pak.

you can ask the Chinese members here if you want.

US transfers to Israel are balanced with what she gives the Turks and the Arabs. No such Chinese constrains in case of Pakistan.

 

[The Eagle]

the J 31 is designated for potential export, that's the model Pak air chief was presented.

the US didn't sell the F 22 to Israel, China wont sell the J 20 to Pak.

you can ask the Chinese members here if you want.

Presenting a model doesn't resemble any deal rest about what china will sell to Pak or what not it doesn't need any advocacy services from India. Pakistan can ask for anything from China directly for anything befitting.

Pakistan Zindabad