What to demand in a ToT?

[shehbazi2001]

Seriously speaking, I cant say something about money matters....

But frankly speaking, one does not have to be an economic expert to answer the question. Funds need to be prioritized and used judiciously.

We can reduce the number of aircrafts in VIP fleets. We can reduce the extra non-technical staff like peons, gardeners, drivers, secretaries, clerks etc.... and the batmen is an ultimate luxury that needs to be eradicated immediately...

In Europe and America, its easier to recruit an engineer than a clerk. For the posts of administration, very strict justifications are required. Everyone makes tea himself, everyone does cleaning himself, there are few gardeners who use automatic machines for mowing large areas, everyone drives himself.....and the list goes on.......

 

[BATMAN]

Its not that easy as you make it sound.

Regards

Please, let us hear for the first time an indian contributing with knowledge.
Why not! Learning should be two way traffic but unfortunately on this forum it has been always one way.
Come on AN, it’s your chance to take the initiative.

 

[BATMAN]

if modern day R&D is so "simple" as u have explained - then what is the hitch. why is Pakistani R&D 20-30 yrs behind the times.

Hon. FM,
Nobody said R&D is simple, infect I wrote even the design engineering could be challenge even in a situation where technology is available.
As I said many theories existed from long time but cannot materialized due to the limitation of hardware.
It is not possible to explain the whole process; it is even beyond our knowledge. The idea was to give the readers a brief idea basically how R&D works in modern days. Which really has changed no instead of lot of lab work simulations can be done on PC and designer can perfect his design O/P by varying parameters in the software, where as previously it was very important to have accurate calculations for every design otherwise variations in lab means more intensive work.
Previously, it was hard to find information but today everyone have access to all information and in quick time. Obviously one reason is information via internet and second today we have much more books and research papers available as in past.
We may be 20-3 years behind in technology development but this can be said in every walk of our lives.
We do not have a system and proper law which is not a classified technology.
Philosophy is as simple that we are bound to be looser if we do not participate in the race.
I think given our comparatively limited human resources we did good since we started in this direction from Ayub's era (I suppose)
One thing which my dear countrymen keep missing is the sudden boost in our higher education and universities and results came up immediately.
We can deduce two visible answers to your question, previously we simply lacked human resource and our graduate engineers, and not all but the brilliant top is in a position to take up the R&D work. Our students are amongst the best. Our undergraduates can deliver better results than graduates of our regional countries.
We can only blame the political leaders, who never thought of HR development.
The statement above may be dis-connected but gain the attempt was only to give an idea.

 

[Always Neutral]

Please, let us hear for the first time an indian contributing with knowledge.
Why not! Learning should be two way traffic but unfortunately on this forum it has been always one way.
Come on AN, it’s your chance to take the initiative.

Pakistan needs 159 years to catch up with industrialised world

By Anwar Iqbal

WASHINGTON, May 26: Pakistan needs 159 years to catch up with industrialised nations, says a report by the Commission on Growth and Development, an independent body based at the World Bank headquarters in Washington.

The commission’s growth report, however, notes that Pakistan can reach this milestone by 2050 if it maintains an annual growth rate of 8.3 per cent and in 2100 if it maintains a growth rate of 4.9 per cent.

Pakistan has maintained the maximum growth rate of 4.8 during the last 10 years with an average of 1.8 per year.

Pakistan’s per capita GDP in 2006 was $2,206.

The report notes that China, which in 2006 had per capita GDP of $6,621, can catch up with industrialised countries in 23 years.

During the last 10 years, China has had an average growth rate of 8.3 per cent, with a maximum of 10.1 per cent.

India, with per capita GDP of $3,308, can catch up with industrialised nations in 50 years. During the last 10 years, India had the maximum growth rate of 7.7 per cent, with an average of 4.9 per cent.

Among the Muslim nations, Malaysia is the closest to catch up with industrialised nations. It can reach this milestone in 35 years, followed by Iran, which can reach there in 54 years. Egypt needs 118 years.

The report notes that in 1960, some of the largest developing countries have put their economies on track to catch up with industrialised countries; many others have not. There are about 150 developing countries in the world. The 10 largest among them account for about 70 per cent of developing countries’ GDP, and the 25 largest countries for about 90 per cent.

The growth performance of these 25 countries has been uneven. Because industrialised countries’ growth rate is about 2 per cent per capita, developing countries need to grow at much higher rates to catch up. Less than half have been able to reach this performance.

Since 1960, only 6 countries have grown faster than 3 per cent in per capita terms and 10 had growth rates below 2 per cent, implying that they have fallen farther behind industrialised countries’ incomes.Pakistan’s real GDP in 2006 was 99 billion in constant 2,000 dollars.

Pakistan’s share in total developing countries’ real GDP in 2006 was 1.2 per cent. Pakistan’s growth rate between 1980 and 2006 in real GDP was 5.1 per cent and in per capita it was 2.5 per cent. Between 1960 and 2006, the real GDP growth rate was 5.5 per cent and in per capita it was 2.7 per cent. The real GDP growth rate in 1960 was 9 per cent.

In 1960, Pakistan ranked 20th among the developing nations.

Differences in economic performance imply that for many developing countries, per capita incomes are lower than they were a few decades ago.

Because of the consistently improving economic performance of China and India, the share of developing countries in global GDP is increasing. The corollary is that the share of the United States, Canada, Japan, and the European Union has been declining since the 1980s — although these economic blocks together still account for 70 per cent of the world’s GDP.

 

[fatman17]

^^^i guess that post by AN explains it all - however one area where we have done very well is collaborations with China, Italy & France where input from the pakistani experts has actually improved the quality and capability of a product.(here of-course we mean weapons systems)

 

[BATMAN]

AN, Do you see news relevant to the subject or to my encouragment to Indians to contribute positively in this forum for once? or do you consider posting anti Pakistan news and views a great deal of knowledge.

So the report is based on GDP growth, than sure our govt. but GDP does not reflect infrastructure, HR and e-readiness.
Infect above 3 parameters should be most worth for estimating development potential.
Therefore, I reject the report as bogus and biased.

 

[indiapakistanfriendship]

So the report is based on GDP growth, than sure our govt. but GDP does not reflect infrastructure, HR and e-readiness.
Infect above 3 parameters should be most worth for estimating development potential.
Therefore, I reject the report as bogus and biased.

Did you read the report completely, or did you read the methodology completely. Most policy reports just dont coorelate one variable such as GDP with another variable such as innovation and industrialisaion. For coorelating these two variables the author of the report would have for sure taken various variables inculding the the three variables you had mentioned to study the maximum causal effect . He would have used regression which involves carefully cancelling out the effects of the various variables to achieve utmost causal relationship. To put it short such studies not only involve mere two variables but also consider a plethora of other variables.

Cheers

 

[indiapakistanfriendship]

Therefore, I reject the report as bogus and biased.

For pete's sake thats the last thing id say regarding a worldbank or UN report. They simply will not show false data to satisfy anyone, their data and such reports are primarily used and are taken to be gold standards by different governments especially developing governments. I am sure someone in in your planning comission would have referenced this report. Moreover If you have access to reports published by most developing nations and developed nations that are ciruclated among development community check out the footnotes, most probably you shall come across a lot of UN , world bank and IMF reports.

Cheers

 

[Blackpearl]

What to demand in ToT?

It is an interesting question, when looked upon on purely defence point of view. well it simply depands the how much wiling the country concerned is, providing technology to us. But then it also depands upon our own requirement, how far we can go. Weapons are expansive, we cannot go for an all out manufacturing venture, rather it is better to have assembling plants here.