What The Atlantic Gets Dangerously Wrong About ISIS And Islam

[Dubious]

Problem is right now islamic nutjobs are too big a number compared to other religious nutjobs combined.This cannot be denied.

My only question is why??

Are they bigger in number or just louder?

 

[he-man]

Are they bigger in number or just louder?

Bigger.And louder too both in words and in actions.

 

[Dubious]

Bigger.And louder too both in words and in actions.

And right now my actions and that of the experts in this article are explaining and speaking against them and the market reacts like this:

Why are you so obsessed with religion

Some changes are in order,,,maybe a better interpretation but u still have those violent verses.Something needs to be done about those.

Had Anjem Ch written an article, he would have been quoted all over PDF like autentic when the man is neither a scholar nor has any formal training to his name!

 

[he-man]

And right now my actions and that of the experts in this article are explaining and speaking against them and the market reacts like this:

Problem is majority,not the experts here

 

[Dubious]

Problem is majority,not the experts here

Problem is those with bashing instincts cant see anything past their thinking even when presented by experts!

Well, if majority arent, seek the expert! Isnt that you would do say if you had some rare disease? You would seek the best doc not your home neem hakim, right? So why not the same for your soul or as you dont believe in religion for knowledge purposes if you are true in wanting to know something?

 

[he-man]

So why not the same for your soul or as you dont believe in religion for knowledge purposes if you are true in wanting to know something?

True but people ain't that smart,,majority in our parts still go to neem hakims..............fair point though.

But question remains-----will people change??Will they follow a doctor or keep on trusting neem-hakims?
Unfortunately no one has an answer.

 

[Dubious]

But question remains-----will people change??Will they follow a doctor or keep on trusting neem-hakims?
Unfortunately no one has an answer.

Thats up to them....Will I stop trying to provide the address to a doctor?

 

[he-man]

Thats up to them....Will I stop trying to provide the address to a doctor?

Ur efforts are not bringing much benefit..............but yeah nothing wrong in trying.
All i am saying is maybe u should tweak the strategy for better effect.

 

[Dubious]

tweak the strategy for better effect.

how so? I got experts who say what I have been repeating how much more tweaking?

 

[he-man]

how so? I got experts who say what I have been repeating how much more tweaking?

I meant the experts still cannot convince people that neem hakims are wrong.

 

[Dubious]

I meant the experts still cannot convince people that neem hakims are wrong.

Well they are not there to force but can only give advice....rest is up to ones personal choice...

 

[he-man]

Well they are not there to force but can only give advice....rest is up to ones personal choice...

And those ones aren't too bright to see the truth,,,thats the problem.

 

[Dubious]

And those ones aren't too bright to see the truth,,,thats the problem.

Our job is not to force but put it out there...

 

[rockstar08]

I disagree with this...I take religion seriously and have no plans to blow anything let alone myself!


I never keep hope in people....people are people and not reliable...But I found this article really awesome it covers everything I an everyday person can summarize but it is sad when the media has to bring "experts" to prove common sense...And it is further saddening when people take Anjem Ch. who isnt a certified preacher nor a scholar as an expert and give him more time as compared to these people who actually have degrees in the field!

Ahh I see
If ever in your life you had said something like mar dounga tujhay salay....and some recorded and used it in some other context....would it be valid?

The verses are not violent if read in context....But are specific...That is what the article also explains but with a prefixed mindset you must have missed it!


Yea I read like that...Esp if I have to read 4-5 journal articles in office and make sense of them and then some others for PDF


Obsessed?

Just coz you are living a fine life in your home and dont care doesnt mean one who cares about certain issues is obsessed...I can ask the same, why are you desensitized?

When you people quoted selective articles, I never called you obsessed but when I share an article by experts in the field who have a different view point than yours I am obsessed? Lovely!

Yup proven people wanna live in denial coz it is easier to digest than using their brains!

Thank you for taking part in the experiment!

i am not pointing at sensible people like you , but likes of Taliban , JI and JUI ..
and Humans are most untrustworthy Animals ..

 

[DrawingDead]

And right now my actions and that of the experts in this article are explaining and speaking against them and the market reacts like this:

The market reacts like this because there is one of these everyday and almost all of them are by you. Here's what's really going on. Maybe this will help you get your obsession of posting these thread daily.

WE DON'T LIKE YOU. And no, I don't mean we're gonna run you over with our cars if we see on a side walk but rather we don't like you as a community. Our image of you is very different from your self-image. We see a backward community that obsesses over things we've gotten over a century ago. We like to make jokes about religion. You kill over those jokes. We think cartoons are funny. You think it's a matter of life and death. People like you are actually what I fear more than the terrorists themselves. The terrorists, we can handle. You, on the other hand, are poisoning the proverbial well from within. You're more concerned about the image of your religion than what's actually happening. That's really our worst suspicion and fear. We think, given a choice between our necks and your religion, you're gonna choose your religion. Now that might be good thing from your perspective, but for us, its a pretty big problem.

Last month, 3 kids were shot in Chapel Hill by an atheist. Atheists didn't jump in and post expert opinions on atheism to prove that it had nothing to do with the shootings. Nobody said a "real" atheist would never do that. Or that he did it because atheists are being persecuted in Pakistan. In fact, the prosecutor is asking for the death penalty. Now go compare that any of the shootings by Islamists. There are a lot of "They shouldn't have done that but....". That "But" is what separates us from you.

Finally, you need it realize that this isn't about Islam but rather about Muslims. People didn't look up websites about Islam and then come to the conclusion that Islam preaches violence. But rather they saw the real world actions of real world Muslims and then decided to see what the fuss was about. So posting expert opinions is not going to help unless you find a way to modify Muslims' behavior in the real world. You should concentrate on that rather than trying to shove your daily dose of religion down our throats.