This forum has a hilarious amount of what seems to be people who must be employed by Russian/Chinese governments throwing out wild propaganda that people believe for no reason atall apart from a hatred of the West.
You have these ideas about the west and the media and its control, most people rely on the "freedom" of the internet and have an impartial analysis of the news, we can see the videos of the Ukranians and the pro Russians both acting murderous and foolish, we make our own opinion and its never a one sided opinion as each situation is unique, the average person in the UK does not support either side because there are clearly agitators and liars on both sides.
We do want it to stop though as it will just lead to more death and destruction in the neighbouring countries aswell as Ukraine. Its not about new world orders or any other weird conspiracy type shit I keep seeing written on here by people who have never visited Europe let alone the *** backwards part of Eastern Europe where they, being darker skinned can mean your going to get a beating, its about fucking humanity. Its an internal problem that will resolve itself preferably with intervention from no sides.
Also how do people on here so blindly believe that American agent provocateurs are working throughout Ukraine but laugh and dismiss any action that is so obviously done by Russia, the main country involved in this and their next door neighbour. Anything that happens that is negative gets blamed on the west, if something happens to Ukranians then that also gets blamed on the west for trying to incite more carnage, such as the helicopters that were downed which somehow cant have been the Russians doing that it must be the Americans. I never realised how peaceful of a history Russia has had that they can do no wrong.
All I see is fascists fighting other fascists in a part of the world where the people and buildings look like they are from 1950's and they seem to have that same uneducated nationalist mentality that is detrimental to the entire region and its future. Its all good talk about it but if the fighting intensifies and comes to your street, im sure we wont see you on here or even on the face of this earth and regardless of East or West, you think Putin and his billionaire buddies will be dying, as usual its all about money and power under the guise of nationalism so that a select few can benefit whilst families are ripped apart just like every war America has been involved in in the past few decades.
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