What Pakistani Brothers Think About Turkish Genocide and Humanity Crimes in Urumqi?

[xuxu1457]

Let me ask you a direct and to the point very uncomfortable question

"Do Turkish people and Government support their Freedom struggle ?"

Good question,how Turkish think about Kurds struggling for "freedom"?

 

[TrMhMt]

Killing an innocent cannot be supported - may it be anywhere - simple

But when israeli gov. kills the innocent Palestinians your response is not calm like this !! actually your response like this !! Killer israel!! if you are friend of zionist, you are not Muslim !! we will strike Israel soon!!" etc .........

But the topic turned up same humanity crimes and genocide in china, your response really cool ... hmm interesting !!

 

[TrMhMt]

Good question,how Turkish think about Kurds struggling for "freedom"?

hmmm let me tell one thing you, after that please go out of this topic..

Now you have one house and it has 10 rooms but you are going to rent only one room to someone coz you don't use all of rooms. you can use only 5 rooms.. than you found one person who wants to rent your room and you let him ! then he took his wife and stayed a while together and than your renter had 1 kid than 2 kids then your renter asked you for other room and you let them 2nd of your room and this happened a few times and now they are using 5 rooms of your house since 20 years than suddenly they started to say half of this house is belong us !!! now will you say yes yours or excuse me?

I am sure you will say excuse me? its mine!! i just let you rent it !! but they started to say "ok if you will not accept we will start to kill your family members" and they really started to kill one by one !! what will you do? will you leave your house to them or fight with them ??

Is this freedom or stealing your property ?? Killing your family members is getting freedom or terrorism?

 

[pak-yes]

But when israeli gov. kills the innocent Palestinians your response is not calm like this !! actually your response like this !! Killer israel!! if you are friend of zionist, you are not Muslim !! we will strike Israel soon!!" etc .........

But the topic turned up same humanity crimes and genocide in china, your response really cool ... hmm interesting !!

Bro you have asked a very difficult question from Pakistanis.Infact it is one of the most difficult questions that you can ask.And i also cannot give you the response which you are expecting and i am sure neither will most of the Pakistani's do.

It is one of Dilemma we are facing.We Only have a single ally in the world but Pakistani's also like Muslims around the world very much and if you ask Non-Muslims on this forum i am sure they will say that Pakistanis are the only muslims in the world who believe in Umma.

But the truth is for all the love we have for our Muslims brothers, Most Muslims have really good relations with India and none of our Muslim Brothers come to our help when we need it.Infact whenever there were testing times on Pakistan the only people who ever came to our help were these Chinese Non-Believers.

So if you are expecting Pakistanis to condemn china as the way they do Israel you will not get it.

And Lastly there should be justice with every Muslim no matter he lives in China or Palestine.

 

[TrMhMt]

So bro you mean benefits more important than Islam and innocent Muslims.. hmm any one else?

 

[pak-yes]

So bro you mean benefits more important than Islam and innocent Muslims.. hmm any one else?

No i didn't said that benefits are more important than innocent Muslims but the fact is i can not answer your question.

gosh....I don't know what to say.

 

[TrMhMt]

i got my answer from you thanks and waiting for others !!!

 

[Ahmad]

Hi
by the way does Turkish military care when it bombard Kurds, are they not Muslims, simple words every man for himself

very true.

 

[TrMhMt]

very true.

hmmm so terrorist can kill innocent people in my country but my soldiers can't ha?

This is ridiculous ... !!

Did you search what pkk terrorists have done? how many people did they kill?

 

[Ahmad]

Freedom for who? kurdish? we didn't invade their land like china had done !! Do you know anything about Turkish history? if you know you can give your answer by yourself !!!

Urumqi had been invaded by china !! don't pretend both issues are same .... and you are not Pakistani please stay away !!!

my friend, turkish governemts starting from Mustafa Kamal has had the policy of wiping out the kurdish people culturally, and linguistically, they want to wipe out the kurdish identity. even the word Kurdish is considered as K word in turkey, only recently Mr Ordogan has taken a few small steps to give the kurds some small cultural rights.

 

[Ahmad]

hmmm so terrorist can kill innocent people in my country but my soldiers can't ha?

This is ridiculous ... !!

Did you search what pkk terrorists have done? how many people did they kill?

and the terrorists are terrorizing the state of china.

 

[Bushy]

No i didn't said that benefits are more important than innocent Muslims but the fact is i can not answer your question.

gosh....I don't know what to say.

That's perhaps because you may not have studied the case in detail (Bad job! ).
The Uyghurs were not targeted ethnically. It was merely a riot suppression measure undertaken by a communist state that does not recognize people on the basis of region or religion.

Such measurements are not supposed to warrant the attraction/condemnation by other states, and so Pakistan did not raise the issue. Nor did Afghanistan (rather Afghanistan praised the Chinese in 'doing the right thing'), and OIC merely urged the Chinese government to quickly bring the perpetrators of the riots to justice.

What would have Pakistan done??

 

[U-571]

one thing i dont understand is, turkish people say that all people living in central asia and some parts of russia and xinjiang province of china are turks, but as a matter of fact i asked this question from one person who belong to kazakistan and happens to study at my university, i asked him the same question and he said no..., infact he didnt know about it..

and as pak-yes pointed on, so much for being muslims, muslims dont care about kashmir, we as pakistanis support the palestinian cause, all other muslim cause but they dont even talk about muslims in kashmir, muslim ummah is all BS..

 

[TrMhMt]

my friend, turkish governemts starting from Mustafa Kamal has had the policy of wiping out the kurdish people culturally, and linguistically, they want to wipe out the kurdish identity. even the word Kurdish is considered as K word in turkey, only recently Mr Ordogan has taken a few small steps to give the kurds some small cultural rights.

Absolutely wrong !!! who told you this story to you i don't know but its not true !! First Mustafa Kemal gave us(everyone in my country) freedom and democracy to chose who do we want? for everyone in my country !!! Turks, Arabs, Circassian, Christians and Jewish and also kurds, we are living in peace and we have same rights!! but only some of kurds support to terrorist pkk.. so your story is quite wrong... and i know you don't know anything about my country and its people !!

We are killing kurds(terrorists).. yes we do!! bcz they have killed my people they were all innocent and regular citizen... you can not say they are Muslim coz terrorist can not be Muslim!! if you still say they are Muslim, you are not Muslim also ... right?

 

[Ahmad]

one thing i dont understand is, turkish people say that all people living in central asia and some parts of russia and xinjiang province of china are turks, but as a matter of fact i asked this question from one person who belong to kazakistan and happens to study at my university, i asked him the same question and he said no..., infact he didnt know about it..

and as pak-yes pointed on, so much for being muslims, muslims dont care about kashmir, we as pakistanis support the palestinian cause, all other muslim cause but they dont even talk about muslims in kashmir, muslim ummah is all BS..

you are right. the turks unfortunately care only about the ethnic issues of turks, they use islam as a pretext to draw other muslims into chineese' internal afairs. they care about their turks in cyprus, but they deny everything for their own citizens(kurds). let them say whatever they want. the only gov so far i have seen a little bit to be moving in the right direction is Mr. Ordogan and it is because he is the head of an islamic party plus he wants to gain the kurdish vote as well, god forbid us to see a turk nationalist, they are totally different people.