What lies behind Pakistani charges of Indian 'terrorism'

[daring dude]

Baloch separatists have been waging a bitter war against the Pakistani army for years (image from 2006)
Why would Pakistan's army accuse Indian intelligence of "whipping up terrorism" in Pakistan?

The accusation levelled at India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) came in astatement issued by the army's media wing. There was no mention of any specific incident, but privately military officials have been blaming India for involvement in a separatist insurgency in Pakistan's south-western province of Balochistan.

Many say it is probably the first time a Pakistani authority outside political or diplomatic spheres has publicly named an Indian institution in this manner.

They see this assertiveness as a sign of the Pakistani army's growing willingness to be seen to be dictating the country's foreign and national security policies.

It comes as the army tries to face the triple threat of the Pakistani Taliban, Baloch insurgents and a complicated mix of urban crime, ethnic, linguistic, religious, sectarian and political rivalries in the country's biggest city, Karachi.

It also indicates a toughening of Pakistan's position against India at a time when the Pakistani army is emerging as one of the chief guarantors of peace in Afghanistan, in partnership with China.

Any failure to deliver on this score is likely to weaken Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, an apparent ally of Pakistan, and strengthen pro-India forces in Kabul.

Conversely, any arm-twisting by the military to force the Afghan Taliban to the dialogue table may antagonise them and thereby deprive Islamabad of a proxy to check the spread of Indian influence in Afghanistan.

Abdul Qadeer Baloch campaigns for the families of those who have disappeared in conflicts
Pakistan has long accused India of fuelling insurgency in Balochistan. Officials say Indian spies are operating through a network of Indian missions dotting southern and eastern Afghanistan, where most Baloch insurgents are also based.

The military believes India also has involvement in Karachi, Pakistan's largest and most volatile city. This suggestion comes from a recent claim by a senior police officer - believed to be the mouthpiece of the military - that RAW helped a Karachi-based party.

Observers say the Pakistani army has been soft-pedalling in the fight against the Afghan Taliban as well as anti-India militant groups based in Pakistan, but it has come down hard on Baloch insurgents and political activists.

Over the years, hundreds of Baloch activists have gone missing, most of them turning up dead on the streets or across the vast wilderness of the province. Locals blame all these disappearances and killings on the army and its surrogate groups, a charge the army denies.

More recently, however, it has moved more openly to curb movement and debate by Baloch rights activists.

In March, authorities at Karachi airport stopped three Baloch activists from proceeding to New York to participate in a seminar on human rights violations in Balochistan and Sindh province.

One of them was Mama Qadeer, a 70-year-old Baloch rights activist who shot to fame when he walked 3,000km (1,860 miles) from Quetta to Islamabad last year to protest over killings in Balochistan.

In April, two men introducing themselves as ISI operatives handed a written "order" to the management of Lahore University of Management Sciences (LUMS), asking it to cancel a talk which featured Mama Qadeer.

The murder of Sabeen Mehmud provoked outrage from civil society
While LUMS gave in, on 25 April a similar talk went ahead at The Second Floor (T2F), a tea house-cum-book store in Karachi, despite what some activists claim were "warnings" not to hold the event.

Within an hour, the moderator of that talk and head of T2F, Sabeen Mehmud, 40, wasshot dead by unknown gunmen while driving home in her car.

The incident sparked protests across the country, with civil society groups and severalnewspaper columnists accusing the ISI directly or more subtly for the murder.

The pressure grew so much that the army had to issue a separate statement condemning Ms Mehmud's murder, apparently to distance itself from the incident.

Many believe the army's latest statement about RAW may be equally meant to deflect this wave of public criticism.

What lies behind Pakistani charges of Indian 'terrorism' - BBC News

 

[Neemo neemo]

Baloch separatists have been waging a bitter war against the Pakistani army for years (image from 2006)
Why would Pakistan's army accuse Indian intelligence of "whipping up terrorism" in Pakistan?

The accusation levelled at India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) came in a statement issued by the army's media wing. There was no mention of any specific incident, but privately military officials have been blaming India for involvement in a separatist insurgency in Pakistan's south-western province of Balochistan.

Many say it is probably the first time a Pakistani authority outside political or diplomatic spheres has publicly named an Indian institution in this manner.

They see this assertiveness as a sign of the Pakistani army's growing willingness to be seen to be dictating the country's foreign and national security policies.

It comes as the army tries to face the triple threat of the Pakistani Taliban, Baloch insurgents and a complicated mix of urban crime, ethnic, linguistic, religious, sectarian and political rivalries in the country's biggest city, Karachi.

It also indicates a toughening of Pakistan's position against India at a time when the Pakistani army is emerging as one of the chief guarantors of peace in Afghanistan, in partnership with China.

Any failure to deliver on this score is likely to weaken Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, an apparent ally of Pakistan, and strengthen pro-India forces in Kabul.

Conversely, any arm-twisting by the military to force the Afghan Taliban to the dialogue table may antagonise them and thereby deprive Islamabad of a proxy to check the spread of Indian influence in Afghanistan.

Abdul Qadeer Baloch campaigns for the families of those who have disappeared in conflicts
Pakistan has long accused India of fuelling insurgency in Balochistan. Officials say Indian spies are operating through a network of Indian missions dotting southern and eastern Afghanistan, where most Baloch insurgents are also based.

The military believes India also has involvement in Karachi, Pakistan's largest and most volatile city. This suggestion comes from a recent claim by a senior police officer - believed to be the mouthpiece of the military - that RAW helped a Karachi-based party.

Observers say the Pakistani army has been soft-pedalling in the fight against the Afghan Taliban as well as anti-India militant groups based in Pakistan, but it has come down hard on Baloch insurgents and political activists.

Over the years, hundreds of Baloch activists have gone missing, most of them turning up dead on the streets or across the vast wilderness of the province. Locals blame all these disappearances and killings on the army and its surrogate groups, a charge the army denies.

More recently, however, it has moved more openly to curb movement and debate by Baloch rights activists.

In March, authorities at Karachi airport stopped three Baloch activists from proceeding to New York to participate in a seminar on human rights violations in Balochistan and Sindh province.

One of them was Mama Qadeer, a 70-year-old Baloch rights activist who shot to fame when he walked 3,000km (1,860 miles) from Quetta to Islamabad last year to protest over killings in Balochistan.

In April, two men introducing themselves as ISI operatives handed a written "order" to the management of Lahore University of Management Sciences (LUMS), asking it to cancel a talk which featured Mama Qadeer.

The murder of Sabeen Mehmud provoked outrage from civil society
While LUMS gave in, on 25 April a similar talk went ahead at The Second Floor (T2F), a tea house-cum-book store in Karachi, despite what some activists claim were "warnings" not to hold the event.

Within an hour, the moderator of that talk and head of T2F, Sabeen Mehmud, 40, wasshot dead by unknown gunmen while driving home in her car.

The incident sparked protests across the country, with civil society groups and severalnewspaper columnists accusing the ISI directly or more subtly for the murder.

The pressure grew so much that the army had to issue a separate statement condemning Ms Mehmud's murder, apparently to distance itself from the incident.

Many believe the army's latest statement about RAW may be equally meant to deflect this wave of public criticism.

What lies behind Pakistani charges of Indian 'terrorism' - BBC News

Nuff said.

 

[Levina]

 

[Neemo neemo]

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Your signature changes more often than Narendra Modi's outfit on foreign tours.

This is a difficult one.

 

[Levina]

Your signature changes more often than Narendra Modi's outfit on foreign tours..

Depends on what i'm debating.
From last few days the topic has been "Sindhu-Saraswati civilisation". I hope that will help you join the dots.

And glad that atleast one of our PM has a sense of dressing up.Modi is a colorful man!!
Lolz

 

[cerberus]

Baloch separatists have been waging a bitter war against the Pakistani army for years (image from 2006)
Why would Pakistan's army accuse Indian intelligence of "whipping up terrorism" in Pakistan?

The accusation levelled at India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) came in astatement issued by the army's media wing. There was no mention of any specific incident, but privately military officials have been blaming India for involvement in a separatist insurgency in Pakistan's south-western province of Balochistan.

Many say it is probably the first time a Pakistani authority outside political or diplomatic spheres has publicly named an Indian institution in this manner.

They see this assertiveness as a sign of the Pakistani army's growing willingness to be seen to be dictating the country's foreign and national security policies.

It comes as the army tries to face the triple threat of the Pakistani Taliban, Baloch insurgents and a complicated mix of urban crime, ethnic, linguistic, religious, sectarian and political rivalries in the country's biggest city, Karachi.

It also indicates a toughening of Pakistan's position against India at a time when the Pakistani army is emerging as one of the chief guarantors of peace in Afghanistan, in partnership with China.

Any failure to deliver on this score is likely to weaken Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, an apparent ally of Pakistan, and strengthen pro-India forces in Kabul.

Conversely, any arm-twisting by the military to force the Afghan Taliban to the dialogue table may antagonise them and thereby deprive Islamabad of a proxy to check the spread of Indian influence in Afghanistan.

Abdul Qadeer Baloch campaigns for the families of those who have disappeared in conflicts
Pakistan has long accused India of fuelling insurgency in Balochistan. Officials say Indian spies are operating through a network of Indian missions dotting southern and eastern Afghanistan, where most Baloch insurgents are also based.

The military believes India also has involvement in Karachi, Pakistan's largest and most volatile city. This suggestion comes from a recent claim by a senior police officer - believed to be the mouthpiece of the military - that RAW helped a Karachi-based party.

Observers say the Pakistani army has been soft-pedalling in the fight against the Afghan Taliban as well as anti-India militant groups based in Pakistan, but it has come down hard on Baloch insurgents and political activists.

Over the years, hundreds of Baloch activists have gone missing, most of them turning up dead on the streets or across the vast wilderness of the province. Locals blame all these disappearances and killings on the army and its surrogate groups, a charge the army denies.

More recently, however, it has moved more openly to curb movement and debate by Baloch rights activists.

In March, authorities at Karachi airport stopped three Baloch activists from proceeding to New York to participate in a seminar on human rights violations in Balochistan and Sindh province.

One of them was Mama Qadeer, a 70-year-old Baloch rights activist who shot to fame when he walked 3,000km (1,860 miles) from Quetta to Islamabad last year to protest over killings in Balochistan.

In April, two men introducing themselves as ISI operatives handed a written "order" to the management of Lahore University of Management Sciences (LUMS), asking it to cancel a talk which featured Mama Qadeer.

The murder of Sabeen Mehmud provoked outrage from civil society
While LUMS gave in, on 25 April a similar talk went ahead at The Second Floor (T2F), a tea house-cum-book store in Karachi, despite what some activists claim were "warnings" not to hold the event.

Within an hour, the moderator of that talk and head of T2F, Sabeen Mehmud, 40, wasshot dead by unknown gunmen while driving home in her car.

The incident sparked protests across the country, with civil society groups and severalnewspaper columnists accusing the ISI directly or more subtly for the murder.

The pressure grew so much that the army had to issue a separate statement condemning Ms Mehmud's murder, apparently to distance itself from the incident.

Many believe the army's latest statement about RAW may be equally meant to deflect this wave of public criticism.

What lies behind Pakistani charges of Indian 'terrorism' - BBC News

Perfectly Situation Analysis in Last Line

Many believe the army's latest statement about RAW may be equally meant to deflect this wave of public criticism.

 

[jaatram]

Pakistanis should declare Lal Masjid's Burkha Cleric as a RAW agent and voila people supporting him will turn against him.

 

[Neemo neemo]

Depends on what i'm debating.
From last few days the topic has been "Sindhu-Saraswati civilisation". I hope that will help you join the dots.

I guess that's in Seniors Cafe section where i'm not allowed, But i did see a post of someone confessing ILU ILU with you.

And glad that atleast one of our PM has a sense of dressing up.Modi is a colorful man!!
Lolz

A bit too colorful for a celibate, don't you think?

 

[kaku1]

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I even doubt we have any foreign ground assets .

 

[Levina]

I guess that's in Seniors Cafe section where i'm not allowed,

Yes my thread is posted in seniors cafe but there 're many other threads posted on that topic. For example Haryana discovery that promises to challenge our ancient history

But i did see a post of someone confessing ILU ILU with you.

That senior TT-C was clearly trolling, and his tawdry post was removed immediately by the mods.

A bit too colorful for a celibate, don't you think?

Oh come on!
Dont judge a book by its cover.
(Waise that thought crossed my mind too..lolzz)

I even doubt we have any foreign ground assets .

Stop underestimating RAW (atleast not on a Pakistani forum lolzz)

 

[noksss]

F**king BBC is really Funded by RAW

 

[Srinivas]

USA and West have already told they have interests in Baluchistan, Ralph peters already has drawn a map which indicates Baluchistan as a separate country.

Now PA is telling cock and bull stories about Indian involvement.

Why lie to the core when you know who the real enemies are and who started this WOT?

Is it the assumption that Pakistani quam is stupid enough to listen and believe anything that makes India as enemy?

 

[Neemo neemo]

Yes my thread is posted in seniors cafe but there 're many other threads posted on that topic. For example Haryana discovery that promises to challenge our ancient history

That senior TTA was clearly trolling, and his tawdry post was removed immediately by the mods.
Oh come on!
Dont judge a book by its cover.
(Waise that thought crossed my mind too..lolzz)
Stop underestimating RAW (atleast not on a Pakistani forum lolzz)

Whatever dude, I am no major in Harappan history, But i did read today's newspaper where they claimed they found traces of Saraswati. I guess maybe that's important or something related to those thread of yours.

 

[WAJsal]

USA and West have already told they have interests in Baluchistan, Ralph peters already has drawn a map which indicates Baluchistan as a separate country.

Now PA is telling cock and bull stories about Indian involvement.

Why lie to the core when you know who the real enemies are and who started this WOT?

Is it the assumption that Pakistani quam is stupid enough to listen and believe anything that makes India as enemy?

It's not just RAW , that is clear . Completely blaming or denying that RAW is involved or not is also wrong .
They know if we unlock the potential that lies in Baluchistan Pakistan will be very strong (van't stand that ) .

 

[Levina]

Whatever dude, I am no major in Harappan history, But i did read today's newspaper where they claimed they found traces of Saraswati. I guess maybe that's important or something related to those thread of yours.

This is off topic here. But you can check ISRO's satellite images(of saraswati river bed) and this video (by a Pakistani archeologist) which proves many things.