What is the salary of 2nd lieutenant in pak army?

[Leader]

I couldnt confirm this 66000 to be the ultimate payment or just one instalment and later to be deducted from salary...

however, as far as Salary is concern I have reconfirmed and approximately it is CORRECT.

 

[Xeric]

^^ Ofcourse.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

What of course?

What is the real position?

 

[Xeric]

i am sure you understand simplified english. The 'real position' is out there for those who want to see.

 

[Haseebullah]

I couldnt confirm this 66000 to be the ultimate payment or just one instalment and later to be deducted from salary...

however, as far as Salary is concern I have reconfirmed and approximately it is CORRECT.

Then you could have posted the salary in the first place without all the bullshit you dragged along.



it would have done us all good.

 

[American Eagle]

I do not know what the base salary monthly for a Pakistani Second Lieutenant is (US pay grade equivalent is an 01). However, here is the 2011 monthly basic pay chart for Second Lieutenants in the US military up through a four star General. The small dollar figures under most all monthly salaries are the value of a 1.4% pay increase that went into effect January 1, 2011, whicn 1.4% is included inside each monthly officer base salarly figure given on this chart. I omitted the value of the 1.4% monthly increase in copying these data for an 01, which is a Second Lieutenant, but the monthly base salarly for our 01 does include the 1.4% increase effective 1 January 2011.

For "historic" comparsion, when I was a Second Lieutenant, Feb. 1963 to July 1964 my 01 base pay was $220.22 a month. Those were poverty wages!!!

For each officer pay per month there are two year seniority intervals per rank, 01 through 10. The first column for every officer rank presumes under 2 years service up through 20 years service seniority for the last monthly salary per rank.



O-10 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- $15,400.80
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 212.70
O-9 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 13,469.70
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 186.00
O-8 9,530.70 9,842.70 10,050.00 10,107.90 10,366.50 10,798.20 10,899.00 11,308.80 11,426.40 11,779.80 12,291.00 12,762.30
-- 131.70 135.90 138.90 139.50 143.10 149.10 150.60 156.00 157.80 162.60 169.80 176.10
O-7 7,919.10 8,287.20 8,457.30 8,592.60 8,837.70 9,079.80 9,359.70 9,638.70 9,918.60 10,798.20 11,540.70 11,540.70
-- 109.20 114.30 116.70 118.50 122.10 125.40 129.30 133.20 136.80 149.10 159.30 159.30
O-6 5,869.50 6,448.50 6,871.50 6,871.50 6,897.60 7,193.40 7,232.40 7,232.40 7,643.40 8,370.30 8,796.90 9,222.90
-- 81.00 89.10 94.80 94.80 95.10 99.30 99.90 99.90 105.60 115.50 121.50 127.20
O-5 4,893.00 5,512.20 5,893.80 5,965.80 6,203.70 6,346.20 6,659.40 6,889.20 7,186.20 7,640.70 7,856.70 8,070.30
-- 67.50 76.20 81.30 82.50 85.80 87.60 91.80 95.10 99.30 105.60 108.60 111.30
O-4 4,221.90 4,887.30 5,213.40 5,286.00 5,588.70 5,913.30 6,317.40 6,632.10 6,851.10 6,976.50 7,049.10 7,049.10
-- 58.20 67.50 72.00 72.90 77.10 81.60 87.30 91.50 94.50 96.30 97.20 97.20
O-3 3,711.90 4,208.10 4,542.00 4,951.80 5,188.80 5,449.20 5,617.80 5,894.70 6,039.00 6,039.00 6,039.00 6,039.00
-- 51.30 58.20 62.70 68.40 71.70 75.30 77.70 81.30 83.40 83.40 83.40 83.40
O-2 3,207.30 3,652.80 4,207.20 4,349.10 4,438.50 4,438.50 4,438.50 4,438.50 4,438.50 4,438.50 4,438.50 4,438.50
-- 44.40 50.40 58.20 60.00 61.20 61.20 61.20 61.20 61.20 61.20 61.20 61.20
O-1 2,784.00 2,897.40 3,502.50 3,502.50 3,502.50 3,502.50 3,502.50 3,502.50 3,502.50 3,502.50 3,502.50 3,502.50

 

[Xeric]

i forgot to mention another thing. This 145% increase was NOT specific to the military or the army, but 45% out of this 145% was applicable to ALL govt employees to include the bureaucracy, the PIA chaps, the railways walas and WAPDA and party. Only the 100% increase of basic pay (what you guys call 'double' pay) was for the military, so this totals upto 145%. So if after the increase of 145% the pay is 20K for a 2/Lt, you can well imagine what it was before the increase?!

I couldnt confirm this 66000 to be the ultimate payment or just one instalment and later to be deducted from salary...

however, as far as Salary is concern I have reconfirmed and approximately it is CORRECT.

i am still waiting for your confirmation.

i wonder if you can reconfirm the salary from you _____, then why didnt you do the same in case of Rs 66000 aka 'free' plots?

 

[Xeric]

@AE

i was told once by an O-3 of yours that if she gets employed in Afg/Iraq she would get the net pay which almost equals the gross pay as she dont have to pay ANY taxes. How correct is this, please?

 

[TaimiKhan]

i forgot to mention another thing. This 145% increase was NOT specific to the military or the army, but 45% out of this 145% was applicable to ALL govt employees to include the bureaucracy, the PIA chaps, the railways walas and WAPDA and party. Only the 100% increase of basic pay (what you guys call 'double' pay) was for the military, so this totals upto 145%. So if after the increase of 145% the pay is 20K for a 2/Lt, you can well imagine what it was before the increase?!



i am still waiting for your confirmation.

i wonder if you can reconfirm the salary from you _____, then why didnt you do the same in case of Rs 66000 aka 'free' plots?

I have been handling my bros salary account since the day he joined his unit, never saw anything cross the 27K mark. 27K mark also when he was at the hard area in Kashmir. Once he came down, the net salary came down to less then 20K. 1112K is his basic salary, even though he would be becoming a Captain this year. 3 years service completed and he is still standing at a net salary of 17K

And people say Army officers are rich.

 

[American Eagle]

Your friend the US 03 statetment to you is true and correct. She would pay no income taxes while serving in either Afghnistan or Iraq, as well as other "hot spots" where one is in harm's way.

When serving in a combat zone your military pay and allowances are in fact tax free for the period of time you serve there. Thus even in my day when I served as an 01, promoted while in Pakistan to 02, from Nov. 1963 to June 1965 my salary and allowances were then, and would be for anyone serving in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, any "hot spot" the salary and all allowances for the time there is tax free.

During my time in Pakistan (63-65) we also drew "hostile fire pay" due to the on again off again spats between Pakistan and India. It, too, was tax free, but back then it was a small amount, about $38 a month for old hostile fire pay. Today it is not a huge amoung, but more, perhaps around $250 or so a month for hostile fire and/or combat zone extra pay, still tax exempt.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Your friend the US 03 statetment to you is true and correct. She would pay no income taxes while serving in either Afghnistan or Iraq, as well as other "hot spots" where one is in harm's way.

When serving in a combat zone your military pay and allowances are in fact tax free for the period of time you serve there. Thus even in my day when I served as an 01, promoted while in Pakistan to 02, from Nov. 1963 to June 1965 my salary and allowances were then, and would be for anyone serving in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, any "hot spot" the salary and all allowances for the time there is tax free.

During my time in Pakistan (63-65) we also drew "hostile fire pay" due to the on again off again spats between Pakistan and India. It, too, was tax free, but back then it was a small amount, about $38 a month for old hostile fire pay. Today it is not a huge amoung, but more, perhaps around $250 or so a month for hostile fire and/or combat zone extra pay, still tax exempt.

Tax exemptions for overseas work are applicable to US civilians as well.

For example, the American citizens working the Gulf these days can earn around $80K / year tax free (the figure may have changed in recent years).

 

[Xeric]

Hmmm...

We dont have any such luxury. Whether you serve at Siachen or fight an active war like the one in FATA we are not exempted from tax (ironically Pakistan still has the lowest tax generation). Also with the increase in pay, our tax slabs (we have a tier system of taxation e.g. a guy earning 1 mil a year would pay the tax @ of let's say 3%, another guy earning 3 mil would have to pay the tax @ may be 8% etc) were increased, so all of a sudden a whole lota money was gone in taxes, in short the NET benefit of the increase in pays was not exactly what it seemed to the outsider "Leaders"

Ok.

Once i was in the US, i know the PX and the BX (for Pakistani readers: the Post/Base Exchanges i.e. the huge shopping centers inside the cantts where you could buy almost everything available on God's earth) would not charge the military personnel any tax on whatever commodity you purchased from there, i mean you could buy a laptop by only paying the price without the sales tax.

Even retired personnel would like to settle near Bases/Posts (cantts in our case) so that they could utilize this 'tax free' facility even after retirement, is this still happen? i know this was a great incentive for you guys, no 'hot spot', no war zones, but tax free items all along. i wish our military is also provided the same facility. But i know those who vomit blood when they hear the word Army these days, would start shyting blood once this kinda facility is extended to the armed forces of Pakistan.

 

[FaujHistorian]

I have been handling my bros salary account since the day he joined his unit, never saw anything cross the 27K mark. 27K mark also when he was at the hard area in Kashmir. Once he came down, the net salary came down to less then 20K. 1112K is his basic salary, even though he would be becoming a Captain this year. 3 years service completed and he is still standing at a net salary of 17K

And people say Army officers are rich.

Yes. This is correct.

Just ignore the blabbering of some on this topic. These anti-PA dimwits are sitting in the US/EU apartments, drinking Islamist cola, and ranting against Pak army. Such is there low life.

 

[Xeric]

I have been handling my bros salary account since the day he joined his unit, never saw anything cross the 27K mark. 27K mark also when he was at the hard area in Kashmir. Once he came down, the net salary came down to less then 20K. 1112K is his basic salary, even though he would be becoming a Captain this year. 3 years service completed and he is still standing at a net salary of 17K

And people say Army officers are rich.

i think i said the same as opposed to some saying a Lt getting Rs 32K per month!! Still, people were asking for the 'real positions'

Some think they know more than those who are actually receiving the military pay checks!

2 years ragra in PMA, plus 3 years active service (including hard areas), 5 years in total and the by the end of the day, you get 17K in net amount per month. Voila! Still the brass polish and the starched uniforms comes out of your pocket.

 

[FaujHistorian]

i think i said the same as opposed to some saying a Lt getting Rs 32K per month!! Still, people were asking for the 'real positions'

Some think they know more than those who are actually receiving the military pay checks!

2 years ragra in PMA, plus 3 years active service (including hard areas), 5 years in total and the by the end of the day, you get 17K in net amount per month. Voila! Still the brass polish and the starched uniforms comes out of your pocket.

So true.

It used to be that Indians (for their reasons) would take pot shots at Pak army.

These days, so many Islamists, Mullahs, and Arab Lackeys have taken over the Indian role while spreading worst possible poison against Pak army. These Islamist-low lives owe their fortunes in Pakistan and even their internet access to the brave soldiers of Pak army and their ultimate sacrifices.

And yet these Talibleeses will continue their lies and deceits so as to malign Pakistan and Pak army.

peace.