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What is the possibility to purchase Helicopters from Neighbors ?

Taliban should have relation with USA and get spare part and maintenance from USA. This will make Taliban quite strong militarily

The interest of Taliban with USA is now inline as both are eager to eliminate ISIS. I think US understand and will help Taliban as long Taliban keep their promise to allow women education, employment, and others.

Taliban is also Sunni follower, Taliban will not likely make any coalition with Iran. It is important for US to have good relationship with Taliban.

Taliban should allow women to work as prophet Muhammad first wife, Khadijah, is a successful entrepreneur and her money help Islam
 
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Weren't 46 helos/aircraft flown out to Uzbekistan? One Tucano even had a mid air collision with Uzbek Mig29.

ANA had 4 C-130s 14x A29, 14x Armed Caravans. We can quietly take the caravans and C130s and absorb them in our current inventories. Uncle will actually be happy about them not being with Taliban.
 
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Why would the Taliban not be smart enough to demand USD for their war booty? The barter system is a relic now.
 
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Probably would be best if the Afghans make a museum out of the unserviceable equipment (Western and Soviet) so the people can see and and touch what they have been living with for over 40 years. Maybe a way to help the people demystify and learn to heal psychologically from the weapons they feared for so long, especially the children; swords in to plows as it were; tools of recovery and not war. (But a lot of the equipment will need to be cleaned if reports of contamination with poison are correct)
 
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I believe a large number of Helicopters were left over by USA as they hastily left Afghanistan, any possibility that we can do some form of barter trade with the neighbors

Barter Trade Proposal
Pakistan -----> Black Hawks Chopper
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For Afghanistan
  • Our Excess Toyota Pickups for Patrol
  • Super Mushak Trainers
  • Wheat / Flour Supply (Excess Supplies )
  • Basic Waponry for Police Force
  • PIA Flights In / Out of Afghanistan
  • Small Batch of AL Khalid Tanks

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Look at trt reports few helicopters that are left in far away bases can be repaired otherwise 70 percent of them have been destroyed their system removed.
You or lets say pakistanis being a short thinker always think like that. Should we barter or this and that stuff.
All you have to do is get your hands legally or illegally on one of them that has its all functions and do reverse engineering on it and make one for yourself and also sale it to the world too . But that requires time, energy, investment etc.
 
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We normally need just a sample
Every thing is repairable
 
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This is a great question that's on everybody's mind these days. And with Taliban government cash strapped they might be willing to sell quite a bit. How ever we may not buy as much, or perhaps even nothing at all.

Blackhawks:

Controversial.
If we get it, the US would have to be involved. They wouldn't mind. But we would then be buying another US platform, and will rely on them for quite some time. Pakistans Army is very professional, and they will set up the logistics and repair and supply chain for it. It would need to be inducted as a platform. Engineers trained specifically for it, as well as pilot and other crew. Operating budget would have to be drafted for this platform. This platform will also need to be incorporated into the Army doctrines and sub level. The rank Major and up will need to change their own strategies depending on the Blackhawks strengths and weaknesses, and will require retraining. Its a great platform. But all this would not be worth it for just a few Blackhawks that we would get at a good price that are still in good condition.

Mi17:

If we need it.
This we already operate and have it incorporated into the armed forces. Lets say we can get it for half the market price. We would then need to see if we really need this or not.
These are potential places where we might add them.
1: Buy very limited units to replace only those that are in poor shape.
2: Buy a dozen or more as reserves. But why spend money on maintaining and storing them for battle, instead when we will need them, we can readily get them from various sellers then and in modern version.
3: Add another airborne infantry unit to the Army. Possible, but this would have to be compensated in the budget when ever the new budget comes. Maintaining an airborne fighting unit is expensive, the men will need training, housing, will need to be stationed somewhere. The place that makes most sense is Balochistan. So lets see if the army deems it necessary to add another unit or they think that they are fine with where they are right now.


Humvee:

Doubtful.
Holds only 4 soldiers. Very expensive to operate since its a gas guzzler and parts are expensive too. You could probably run 3-4 Toyotas for the price of 1. Still offers no protection against IEDs or even RPGs. It would be cheaper to add bullet protection to the Toyotas than this. I hate seeing our soldiers be sitting ducks in the Toyota too. So if the army can budget it in, then sure.

Maxpros:

Can we afford it.
Even more expensive to operate. Since the Army is a professional outfit, they are not gonna be looking to buy one or two. Unless its for replacing broken units or for spares. They will buy a large number since it will be at discount price. But why?
It will have to be to add a whole new unit. Unless we outfit literally all convoys in Balochistan with this, BLA would rather just work harder at finding softer targets than engage this. So we would still lose people who are not in Maxpros. But if we outfit the whole, its gonna be so expensive to buy and to operate. The cost of operations would go so far up, and might end up hurting the number of sorties. We are taking a massive budgetary upgrade. We would have to see if that's worth it more than spending on operations to do more surveillance. For example.

The goal is to nullify the effects of an ambush. Can be done in two ways. One ambush resistant vehicles like this. Two better field work, more human intelligence, cost effective UAVs. Neither are 100% effective, if it was me I would go for ambush resistant vehicles, it makes more sense for Pakistan. But the budget will need to be worked out, and hopefully increased rather than cut from some other part of the army.

Nightvision equipment:

Possible.

Refit an already present unit with these, adding to their capabilities. Since we make our own, we would have to get a dang good price for it to make it worth it.

Small arms:

Yes, but how many can we buy?
Small numbers! If the M4 we are currently using need some replacements.
Large numbers if Pakistan Army is planning on outfitting an already present unit with these instead. Perhaps the light commando battalion can swap their AKs for these. Similarly other units who are meant to protect certain facilities may require refitting with these. This Taliban is not the same as that of the 90s. These guys have ambitious plans and may not give as nice a discount on these. Why?, because I am really not sure if they have those in large numbers. I know they have a lot of M16s which we don't need, but the numbers for the M4 are not that many. They were mostly for the "commandos'.



All in all, smaller less exciting items are more likely to avail. They will give a boost to our army. The larger items will need careful budgeting since they cost 4x as much to operate and we may not have a need in our doctrine.
 
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I believe a large number of Helicopters were left over by USA as they hastily left Afghanistan, any possibility that we can do some form of barter trade with the neighbors

Barter Trade Proposal
Pakistan -----> Black Hawks Chopper
black-hawk.jpeg



For Afghanistan
  • Our Excess Toyota Pickups for Patrol
  • Super Mushak Trainers
  • Wheat / Flour Supply (Excess Supplies )
  • Basic Waponry for Police Force
  • PIA Flights In / Out of Afghanistan
  • Small Batch of AL Khalid Tanks

pak.jpg

3CWBD5KEEJHJZAE63QCMWZY5G4.jpg



5e1fcfc273c42.jpg


18815834_303.jpg
They can sell those choppers in black market or even to Iranians.
 
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Only night vision equipment and Maxx Pro for our FC force is worthwhile in our counter terrorism efforts. Rest doesn't add up much.
P.S for Talibans, large number of humvees, Max Pro, solider carrying trucks are jackpot bonanza to use them in their rough terrain country.
 
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Pakistan is a nuclear state. Why barter? Just show them the bomb and take all their helis :angel: , even US would prefer Pakistan get them compared to talibs
 
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I was also thinking on the same point to get some helicopters and other stuff from Afghanistan on some terms and conditions but only problem I could foresee is later on Spare, technical training for these machines. That means, it would be a short term usage. Now, we need fiscal calculation whether it is worth spending or not.
 
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Capturing a piece of machinery and maintaining it are different things, you can't maintain the choppers to their true potential.
 
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Taliban should have relation with USA and get spare part and maintenance from USA. This will make Taliban quite strong militarily
@Gripen9
US destroyed it themselves. They took radar, electronic equipment and ripped the wires.
 
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