What is Iran's response on the recent events in Kashmir?

[SingHee]

Before Pakistanis, we are Muslims first & foremost .Secondly there isn't any nationalism in Islam.The Concept of one Umma is from Quran & hadees of Prophet Muhammad pbuh himself.Allah (Subhanotallah) has blessed us by making muslims brothers to one another.This blatant ignorance of Muslims these days is the reason we are in this mess today.

They are not mutually exclusive concepts.

O you mankind, surely We created you of a male and a female, and We have made you races and tribes that you may get mutually acquainted. Surely the most honorable among you in the Providence of Allah are the most pious; surely Allah is Ever-Knowing, Ever-Cognizant.

Source:
https://quran.com/49/13?translations=43,19,101,85,84,21,20,17,95,22,18

 

[Crusher]

Nope vast majority will side with Iran or be neutral. ..saudi are a dividing force in muslim world for their pro western stance and inviting kafirs for Protection of their regime . Brelvi sunni are majority and we are no fan of wahabi aka headchoppers and their love for western hookers.

Sending you to ignore list,

Hi,

You are physiologically incorrect---we are not muslims first---.

I have written this many times---and I will write again---.

When a child is born---he / she has no religion---. He gets the religion of the household he is born in and there is a TIME GAP during that process---.

But in that time gap---his ethnicity---his tribe---his language and nationalism is already determined by default---. Religion is the last thing that is determined for the child---.

So---in our culture---first is my ethnic group---ie my tribe---then my provincial group---what province I am born in---then the country I am born in---. So---I will also have a re-determined language that will be my mother tongue---and look---after so many things have happened instantaneously---the religion part has not even entered yet---.

We make them muslims by giving azan in each ear after birth---others may have their own religious rituals for their religions.

Allah gave us our identities for a reason---otherwise our Lord would have done away with identities because he is The Lord of the universe---.

You are wrong here, when a child is born, he is just one of the new "living organism" in this world. All the "identities" whether "province", "language", "caste", "tribe", "religion" etc. are meaningless in terms of biology. If the child born in one province of Pakistan is kidnapped by someone who sells him to another province where he would be raised, all his so-called "default" identities will be changed because they are all acquired from whoever would raise that child. The only unique thing about any living organism is his physical appearance (legs, arms, head , eyes, nose etc. and their position on the organism) differentiating it from the other living organisms, and that is his only identity.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Are you a Pakistani?

What was Pakistan's response when US was threatening Iran? You reap what you sow.

 

[Mutakalim]

Are you a Pakistani?

Do I need a certification?

Imran Khan warns US of any misadventure against Iran

Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Already replied to that question. Kindly do read previous posts.

Watch and learn, educate yourself. This is prime minister of Islamic republic of Pakistan speaking, out of all places, on American soil. @58:20

Already listened to that. Pakistan didn't took any side and so does Iran.

 

[Mutakalim]

Pakistan dont "pretend" to be the survivor or islam unlike khomeini .

Islam didn't require any saving or saviour. Deen e Mubeen is already preserved in it's true form.

shah se ziyada shah k wafadar . mor jafar ki nasal

Kon sa Shah. These two regimes of Saudi's and Iranis dont deserved to be called as Shah's. They are the biggest traitors and usurpers.

Pakistan stated clearly that it was against any sort of conflict with Iran

So does Iran.

If you dont like where you live then pack your bags and move to Iran. Lest see how they treat you there.

I am living in Pakistan. However, it seems to me that you didnt liked Pakistan very much thats why you have moved to a secular country.

When will traitors like these leave Pakistan and go to the countries that they love so much. Those that love Iran move to Iran, those that like arabs move to Arabia. Leave us the f*ck alone

Your language is telling about your upbringing. Your parents have not done a good job on you. Learn manners please and learn how to behave with fellow Muslims, that is the essence of Islam.

So what? You wanted Pakistan to go to war for the country that supports terrorism in Pakistan? You are a new breed of stupid

I want peace and tranquility between all Muslim countries. We shouldn't fight with each other.

 

[My-Analogous]

What was Pakistan's response when US was threatening Iran? You reap what you sow.

Why don't you be Pakistan? Here what Pakistan did for Iran on Highest level but many people blind to see that. We can't trust Iran and Iranian in Pakistan who always defend Iran no matter what. Shame to call them Pakistani

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/148434/Pakistani-PM-warns-of-any-possible-military-measure-against-Iran
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...its-iran-tense-relations-190421181414185.html

 

[Mutakalim]

Why don't you be Pakistan?

I am a Muslim and a Pakistani. I dont need a certificate from anyone.

Here what Pakistan did for Iran on Highest level but many people blind to see that.

We are expecting that Iran would take a side on Kashmir issue. However, Pakistan didnt took the side of Iran in US-Iran conflict. We shouldn't expect much from anyone.

We can't trust Iran and Iranian in Pakistan who always defend Iran no matter what

No one is defending Iran. Iran has caused a lots of damage to Muslim cause like Saudis. These two regimes are a curse.

People, get out of sectarian hatred and try to see things in their true perspective.

Iran only worries about the welfare of Shias in Gulf countries, not the Kashmiri Shias

Still better than Mirza Masroor urf Soor.

 

[Maxpane]

Iran would not speak against india . if Imran khan used brain and did not give the sectarian colour to islamic alliance then india would not dare to end the special status of kashmir but khan opposed it just for political gain and did not care country's interest

 

[B.K.N]

You are wrong here

A common man don't cares about ethnic group tribe religion etc but cares about language because you can't communicate with someone without knowing his language
Those people who talk about ethnicity or other such things have political motives
No one cares about common ancestry or anything a person cares about only a group people which consists of his family and close friends
Most of the time personal feuds like land feuds which often lead to killings are mostly between people of the same tribe and most of the time between cousins

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Islam didn't require any saving or saviour. Deen e Mubeen is already preserved in it's true form.




Kon sa Shah. These two regimes of Saudi's and Iranis dont deserved to be called as Shah's. They are the biggest traitors and usurpers.


So does Iran.


I am living in Pakistan. However, it seems to me that you didnt liked Pakistan very much thats why you have moved to a secular country.


Your language is telling about your upbringing. Your parents have not done a good job on you. Learn manners please and learn how to behave with fellow Muslims, that is the essence of Islam.


I want peace and tranquility between all Muslim countries. We shouldn't fight with each other.

That's cute jumping to fallasies like "where you live" and ny tone of voice yet you are vouching for what Iran stand and not what Pakistan said. Which speaks volumes of you loyalty to Pakistan. Why dont you just move to Iran? I'm sure they will gladly let you in. I, in all honesty hate people like you, you are nothing but a burden and shame for the nation. Unlike you, even when I live in a foreign country, I send money back and do my part in helping the economy grow. Also even after living in a foreign country for so long, I am still a patriot of Pakistan. Where as you are a Persian stooge

 

[padamchen]

Hi,

That is not the standard---iranians as well as turks---many are mid to dark skinned as well---but many others are blonde hair white skin & light color eyes---.

When for the first time I saw a dark & light skinned iranians and Turks---I thought I was looking at people from my family.

Present-day Iranian Zoroastrians ceased intermixing with other groups shortly after the Arab conquest of Persia during 633–654 CE, and band closely to Indian Parsis, both having a predominant ancestry traced back to what is called the Neolithic Old Iranian Farmer. With two single-generation admixture pulses noted - one predominantly male and Cypriot/Greek from around the time of Alexander's invasion, the other predominantly female and Indian during the first landings in India ( approx. 44 generations ago).

Both groups diverge very distinctively from the rest of the present-day surrounding populations and is to be expected due to strictly enforced endogamy.

No admixture was noted in the priests of either group, of strict patrilineal ancestry, that in the case of Parsis is traced back to 4 male priests.

Present day Iranians have had AT LEAST three major multigeneration genetic admixture events (as distinct from single-genetation genetic pulses) over the last millennium since we separated. And I refer specifically to non-Jewish Muslim Iranians. The majority populace there, who we interact with here.

There was an admixture event with an ancestry contribution related to a Turkish-like source group, dated to 1222 CE (1026–1362 CE), and hence overlapping with the period of the Seljuq Empire (1037–1194 CE) that spanned parts of present-day Turkey.

Then there was another admixture dated to 1418 CE (1194–1558 CE) from a Pakistan-like source that falls into the period of the Timurid Empire (1370–1507 CE) that extended into present-day Pakistan.

Finally, the most recent Iranian admixture event was contributions from an East Africa-like source and an inferred date of 1642 CE (1558–1754 CE) that overlaps with the Safavid Empire (1501–1736 CE) and could be related to the Arab slave trade.

Iran today is as much a multi-racial and mixed ethnicity populace as Pakistan or India is.

Of course, it is equally possible that most if not all of these "Iranian" protesters in front of the Indian embassy are of Pakistani origin, given that there is a sizeable population of Afghans and Pakistanis living in Iran.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

I am a Muslim and a Pakistani. I dont need a certificate from anyone.



We are expecting that Iran would take a side on Kashmir issue. However, Pakistan didnt took the side of Iran in US-Iran conflict. We shouldn't expect much from anyone.

No one is defending Iran. Iran has caused a lots of damage to Muslim cause like Saudis. These two regimes are a curse.

People, get out of sectarian hatred and try to see things in their true perspective.


Still better than Mirza Masroor urf Soor.

We are right in questioning your loyalty and being Muslim does not make you pakistani so please dont use that as a form of defacto, acknowledgement for your loyalty to Pakistan.

 

[Mutakalim]

We are right in questioning your loyalty and being Muslim does not make you pakistani so please dont use that as a form of defacto, acknowledgement for your loyalty to Pakistan.

I am loyal to Islam and then Pakistan. I dont care what you guys think about me.

That's cute jumping to fallasies like "where you live" and ny tone of voice yet you are vouching for what Iran stand and not what Pakistan said.

I didnt vouched for anyone. Just stating the realities. Iran and Saudis both stand for sectarianism and their self oriented goals.

Which speaks volumes of you loyalty to Pakistan.

Amateurish behaviour of kids.

I, in all honesty hate people like you,

But, I love all Muslims.

Unlike you, even when I live in a foreign country, I send money back and do my part in helping the economy grow. Also even after living in a foreign country for so long, I am still a patriot of Pakistan.

I am not doubting your patriotism.

Where as you are a Persian stooge

I am not a Persian, nor do I associate myself with any ethnicity.

 

[MastanKhan]

Present-day Iranian Zoroastrians ceased intermixing with other groups shortly after the Arab conquest of Persia during 633–654 CE, and band closely to Indian Parsis, both having a predominant ancestry traced back to what is called the Neolithic Old Iranian Farmer. With two single-generation admixture pulses noted - one predominantly male and Cypriot/Greek from around the time of Alexander's invasion, the other predominantly female and Indian during the first landings in India ( approx. 44 generations ago).

Both groups diverge very distinctively from the rest of the present-day surrounding populations and is to be expected due to strictly enforced endogamy.

No admixture was noted in the priests of either group, of strict patrilineal ancestry, that in the case of Parsis is traced back to 4 male priests.

Present day Iranians have had AT LEAST three major multigeneration genetic admixture events (as distinct from single-genetation genetic pulses) over the last millennium since we separated. And I refer specifically to non-Jewish Muslim Iranians. The majority populace there, who we interact with here.

There was an admixture event with an ancestry contribution related to a Turkish-like source group, dated to 1222 CE (1026–1362 CE), and hence overlapping with the period of the Seljuq Empire (1037–1194 CE) that spanned parts of present-day Turkey.

Then there was another admixture dated to 1418 CE (1194–1558 CE) from a Pakistan-like source that falls into the period of the Timurid Empire (1370–1507 CE) that extended into present-day Pakistan.

Finally, the most recent Iranian admixture event was contributions from an East Africa-like source and an inferred date of 1642 CE (1558–1754 CE) that overlaps with the Safavid Empire (1501–1736 CE) and could be related to the Arab slave trade.

Iran today is as much a multi-racial and mixed ethnicity populace as Pakistan or India is.

Of course, it is equally possible that most if not all of these "Iranian" protesters in front of the Indian embassy are of Pakistani origin, given that there is a sizeable population of Afghans and Pakistanis living in Iran.

Cheers, Doc

Hi,

Pretty much all those are iranian students have typical iranian features---.

 

[padamchen]

Hi,

Pretty much all those are iranian students have typical iranian features---.

Undifferentiable from most Pakistani or North Indian features.

The region is a genetic mish-mash, thanks to the Islamic invasions of the past 1000 years.

Cheers, Doc