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It seems that among all Pakistan's troubles now the SC is also want to be a prominent player and dictate policy in this country. This is a very dangerous trend which only weaken the already fragile democratic system of Pakistan, as the judges are not elected representatives and cannot replace the government.

It is also worrying that SC became the Army lackey and openly serves the Army interests against the elected government. Interesting that Ijaz also claims that the Army gave shelter to OBL but the SC is not interested in that, only in the "memogate" nonsense


January 22, 2012

Pakistan Court Widens Role, Stirring Fears for Stability

By DECLAN WALSH

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Once they were heroes, cloaked justices at the vanguard of a powerful revolt against military rule in Pakistan, buoyed by pugnacious lawyers and an adoring public. But now Pakistan’s Supreme Court is waging a campaign of judicial activism that has pitted it against an elected civilian government, in a legal fight that many Pakistanis fear could damage their fragile democracy and open the door to a fresh military intervention.

From an imposing, marble-clad court on a hill over Islamabad, and led by an iron-willed chief justice, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, the judges have since 2009 issued numerous rulings that have propelled them into areas traditionally dominated by government here. The court has dictated the price of sugar and fuel, championed the rights of transsexuals, and, quite literally, directed the traffic in the coastal megalopolis of Karachi.

But in recent weeks the court has taken interventionism to a new level, inserting itself as the third player in a bruising confrontation between military and civilian leaders at a time when Pakistan — and the United States — urgently needs stability in Islamabad to face a dizzying array of threats.

Judges say their expanded mandate comes from the people, dating back to the struggle against the military rule of Gen. Pervez Musharraf that began in 2007, eventually helping to pry him from power. Memories linger of those heady days, when bloodied lawyers clashed with riot police officers, and judges were garlanded and paraded as virtual saints.

In recent months, however, the Supreme Court has ventured deep into political peril in two different cases. Last week, as part of a high-stakes corruption case, it summoned Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to testify in court under threat of contempt charges that, if carried to conviction, could leave him jailed and ejected from office.

The court has also begun an inquiry into a scandal known here as Memogate, a shadowy affair with touches of soap-opera drama that has engulfed the political system since November. It has claimed the job of Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States and now threatens other senior figures in the civilian government, under accusations that officials sought American help to head off a potential military coup.

Propelled by accounts of secret letters, text messages and military plots, the scandal has in recent days focused on a music video featuring bikini-clad female wrestlers that is likely to be entered as evidence of immorality on the part of the central protagonist, Mansoor Ijaz, an American businessman of Pakistani origin.

Hearings resume Tuesday when Mr. Ijaz is due to give evidence. The fact that the courts have become the arena for such lurid political theater has reignited criticism, some from once-staunch allies, that the Supreme Court is worryingly overstepping its mark.

“In the long run this is a very dangerous trend,” said Muneer A. Malik, a former president of the Supreme Court Bar Association who campaigned for Justice Chaudhry in 2007. “The judges are not elected representatives of the people and they are arrogating power to themselves as if they are the only sanctimonious institution in the country. All dictators fall prey to this psyche — that only we are clean, and capable of doing the right thing.”

The court’s supporters counter that it is reinforcing democracy in the face of President Asif Ali Zardari’s corrupt and inept government. On Saturday, Justice Chaudhry pushed back against the critics.

The court’s goal was to “buttress democratic and parliamentary norms,” he told a gathering of lawyers in Karachi. Deep-rooted corruption was curtailing justice in Pakistan, he added.

“Destiny of our institution is in our own hands,” he said.

Mr. Chaudhry was appointed to the Supreme Court under General Musharraf in 2000. Two years later he wrote a judgment that absolved the military ruler for his 1999 coup. But Mr. Chaudhry shocked his patron and his country seven years later with decrees that challenged General Musharraf’s pre-eminence. Senior security officials were ordered to track down individuals being illegally held by the military intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, or ISI, in some cases working with the F.B.I. and C.I.A. The privatization of state companies came under sharp scrutiny.

Then, on March 9, 2007, General Musharraf tried to fire Justice Chaudhry and placed him under house arrest. Protesting lawyers rushed into the streets in support of the chief justice. New cable television channels broadcast images of the tumult across the country. Power drained from General Musharraf, who resigned 18 months later.

The euphoria was soon tempered, however, by growing tensions with the new government. Mr. Zardari hesitated to reinstate Mr. Chaudhry, believing that he was too close to his political rivals and the military.

The standoff led to fresh street protests in 2009, led by the opposition leader Nawaz Sharif. That March, amid dramatic scenes that included a threatened march on the capital, Mr. Zardari relented and Justice Chaudhry returned to the bench.

Within months, the Supreme Court had cleared the way for the possible prosecution of Mr. Zardari in a Swiss corruption case dating to the 1990s. The government cited Mr. Zardari’s presidential immunity, and argued, along with some international analyst groups, that the court was specifically targeting the president.

But among the wider public, the court was winning broad support. It engaged in a series of muscular interventions to champion the cause of ordinary Pakistanis, some of which broke new ground. Judges expanded the civil rights of hijras, transgendered people who traditionally suffered discrimination, called senior bureaucrats and police officials to account, halted business ventures that contravened planning laws, including a McDonald’s restaurant in Islamabad and a German supermarket in Karachi, and issued a decree against the destruction of trees along a major road in Lahore.

The court’s populist bent has infuriated the government but won cheers from urban, middle-class Pakistanis — the same people who had supported the lawyers’ drive against General Musharraf. Largely young, frustrated by traditional politics and angered by official graft, they constitute a political class that has in recent months flocked to Imran Khan, the cricket star turned politician who is enjoying a sudden surge in popularity, and is a strong defender of the judiciary.

But the court’s activism has also taken many erratic turns. Justice Chaudhry has fought trenchant battles to win control of judicial appointments, a process traditionally in the government’s purview. While the judiciary has vigorously pursued Mr. Zardari, it absolved Mr. Sharif of his alleged crimes. And critics accuse Mr. Chaudhry of failing to reform the chaotic lower courts, which remain plagued by long backlogs. “Three years after the restitution of the chief justice, the delivery of justice remains as poor as it has ever been,” said Ali Dayan Hasan, of Human Rights Watch.

The gravest charges, though, swirl around the memo scandal. Mr. Ijaz claims to hold an unsigned memorandum showing that Mr. Zardari’s government sought covert United States government help to avert a military coup in the poisonous aftermath of the American raid that killed Osama bin Laden in May.

But the memo’s provenance is unclear and Mr. Ijaz’s credibility has come under assault in the news media. Last week a music video that went viral on the Internet showed Mr. Ijaz acting as the ringside commentator in a wrestling contest between two bikini-clad women and that, in one version, featured full nudity — a shocking sight in conservative Pakistan.

The furor, which made front-page news, injected a fresh sense of absurdity into proceedings that already were under question, and that many here insist would never have started without military intervention: the Supreme Court ordered the inquiry on Dec. 30 at the direct request of the army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, and the ISI director general, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, who harbor little love for Mr. Zardari. Also, the court ignored other claims by Mr. Ijaz that the army secretly sheltered Bin Laden, and sought outside support to mount a coup — acts that, if proven, could be equally treasonous.

Suspicions about the court’s impartiality were renewed last Friday, when Mr. Chaudhry ordered the government to disclose whether it intended to fire General Kayani or General Pasha — even though such decisions are normally the government’s prerogative.

The titanic three-way struggle among generals, judges and politicians comes at a time when Pakistan has become increasingly chaotic. Taliban insurgents continue to roam the northwest, the economy is in dire straits and urgently needed reforms in education, health and other social sectors have been largely ignored.

From the standpoint of the United States, the deadlock has diverted the spotlight from military airstrikes that killed 26 Pakistani soldiers in November and brought the two countries’ troubled relationship to a new low. But it has also drawn attention away from a pressing priority of the United States in Pakistan: engaging cooperation here to help negotiate a peace settlement with the Afghan Taliban as a major troop withdrawal slated for 2014 draws near.

“In the midst of this institutional wrangling, nobody has a clear plan as to how politics or foreign policy are going to move forward, said Dr. Paula Newberg of Georgetown University, who has written a book about Pakistani constitutional politics. “Pakistan could easily have a much brighter future. But it gets itself worn down by these incessant disputes about where power lies.”
 
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aah the beloved nytimes at it again. you know, i used to enjoy reading it when the reporting hadn't gone to the sewage but now, you can actually feel the bias just overflow. As for what i have to say about this particular article, well, some folks in the comments section pretty much summed it up for me.

exhibit A:

"Mr Walsh writes from Pakistan's capital city. in his report, he should have mentioned how GW Bush (read Condi Rice autobiography) pestered Gen. Musharraf to write-off corruption cases against Benazir Bhutto and her husband Asif Zrdari (and their party members (although both Bhutto and Zardari stand convicted for money-laundering by a Swiss court). The Bush plan was to create a "moderate" junta using Musharraf and Bhutto.
Today, Pakistan suffers as result. Zardari and his gang are looting at will. The most vociferous confrontation todfay is over the issue of $60 million stacked away by Zardari in a Swiss bank. The court wants the money returned to the state treasury.
At present, the Pakistani Supreme Court, as over-reaching as it may seem, is the only defense that Pakistanis have against the Zardari-led kleptocracy."


to Z:

"This current Pakistani government has not spent a dime on education and if the U.S. was really interested in combatting extremism and terrorism in Pakistan, then it wouldn't go on defending Asif Zardari who by some accounts has amassed billions of dollars in Swiss bank accounts. It is a bit condescending on the part of American people to think that Pakistan's Supreme Court is subverting democracy if it wants individuals to be punished for stealing money from the national exchequer. That money belongs to Pakistanis and it must be brought back to Pakistan to spend on the welfare of more than 100 million poor Pakistanis because at this juncture the State is collapsing. Asif Zardari is a highly corrupt individual who has been balking at Pakistan's Supreme Court for the last 3 years by saying that he enjoys immunity from prosecution just because he lives in the President House. That is a travesty of justice.

Zardari and his henchmen comprise a political mafia in Pakistan, adamant to steal as much as possible when they come into power. Over the last 3 years, Pakistan has fallen 21 spots on the UN's human development index to be ranked at 144 in the entire world. People are mad at this government for not delivering at all. Asif Zardari is just one person and it's extremely condescending to think that the system is in jeapordy if wrongdoers are tried for their crimes. Zardari's rise to power was a fluke after the death of his wife and now he will have to obey Pakistani Courts."
 
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aah the beloved nytimes at it again. you know, i used to enjoy reading it when the reporting hadn't gone to the sewage but now, you can actually feel the bias just overflow. As for what i have to say about this particular article, well, some folks in the comments section pretty much summed it up for me.

exhibit A:

"Mr Walsh writes from Pakistan's capital city. in his report, he should have mentioned how GW Bush (read Condi Rice autobiography) pestered Gen. Musharraf to write-off corruption cases against Benazir Bhutto and her husband Asif Zrdari (and their party members (although both Bhutto and Zardari stand convicted for money-laundering by a Swiss court). The Bush plan was to create a "moderate" junta using Musharraf and Bhutto.
Today, Pakistan suffers as result. Zardari and his gang are looting at will. The most vociferous confrontation todfay is over the issue of $60 million stacked away by Zardari in a Swiss bank. The court wants the money returned to the state treasury.
At present, the Pakistani Supreme Court, as over-reaching as it may seem, is the only defense that Pakistanis have against the Zardari-led kleptocracy."


to Z:

"This current Pakistani government has not spent a dime on education and if the U.S. was really interested in combatting extremism and terrorism in Pakistan, then it wouldn't go on defending Asif Zardari who by some accounts has amassed billions of dollars in Swiss bank accounts. It is a bit condescending on the part of American people to think that Pakistan's Supreme Court is subverting democracy if it wants individuals to be punished for stealing money from the national exchequer. That money belongs to Pakistanis and it must be brought back to Pakistan to spend on the welfare of more than 100 million poor Pakistanis because at this juncture the State is collapsing. Asif Zardari is a highly corrupt individual who has been balking at Pakistan's Supreme Court for the last 3 years by saying that he enjoys immunity from prosecution just because he lives in the President House. That is a travesty of justice.

Zardari and his henchmen comprise a political mafia in Pakistan, adamant to steal as much as possible when they come into power. Over the last 3 years, Pakistan has fallen 21 spots on the UN's human development index to be ranked at 144 in the entire world. People are mad at this government for not delivering at all. Asif Zardari is just one person and it's extremely condescending to think that the system is in jeapordy if wrongdoers are tried for their crimes. Zardari's rise to power was a fluke after the death of his wife and now he will have to obey Pakistani Courts."

You completely missed the point. I am not defending your civilian government and its incompetent. The NYTimes portray a reality where the SC tries to replace the government and ally itself to the Army against the elected representatives. Can't you see the danger in this process to Pakistan?

If you are not please with your governemnt, it can be replaced either by parliament or in general elections, that is how things are done in a democracy. Not by the SC or the Army.

And what about Ijaz claims the the Army-ISI protected OBL? Why not investigate that, only the "memogate" nonsense?
 
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You completely missed the point. I am not defending your civilian government and its incompetent. The NYTimes portray a reality where the SC tries to replace the government and ally itself to the Army against the elected representatives. Can't you see the danger in this process to Pakistan?

If you are not please with your governemnt, it can be replaced either by parliament or in general elections, that is how things are done in a democracy. Not by the SC or the Army.

And what about Ijaz claims the the Army-ISI protected OBL? Why not investigate that, only the "memogate" nonsense?

The SC isn't trying to replace the govt just 2 -3 individuals, the army isn't trying to change the govt but the exact opposite by letting democracy do its job cuz if the army wanted to replace the current govt it would have done so a while back. Ijaz is expecting everything from SC, plus these Could be rumors. SC itself is really busy now days as they have to go through hundreds of cases that are stuck atm. plus the "memogate" isn't something you can just skip
 
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The SC isn't trying to replace the govt just 2 -3 individuals, the army isn't trying to change the govt but the exact opposite by letting democracy do its job cuz if the army wanted to replace the current govt it would have done so a while back. Ijaz is expecting everything from SC, plus these Could be rumors. SC itself is really busy now days as they have to go through hundreds of cases that are stuck atm. plus the "memogate" isn't something you can just skip

Yes, they are.

SC insist that Zardari will be sentenced for allegations on corruptions although he has immunity, wants to prosecute PM in contempt of court for doing his job and not proceed with the allegations against Zardari, and lately they demanded the government for answers about the possibility of firing COAS and DGISI which is the government prerogative.

And all this business that judges will only be appointed by other judges - a system which does not exist anywhere in the world. It is the decision of the elected representatives who will be appointed and not judges who are appointed and are not accountable to anyone.

The Army does not conduct another coup because it feels that this is not what the people want, but it will surely happened in several years.
 
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There are two points to consider. Firstly there is little doubt that Zardari/Gilani Gov’t is inept and highly corrupt and a change of gov’t will help Pakistan. However in my opinion it should be done thru street demonstrations as happened with the reinstatement of the Chief Justice or thru a vote of no confidence in the incumbent PM.

Second point is Judicial Activism. It is crystal clear that this Supreme Court has surpassed all previous ones on ‘Suo Motto’ actions. The support that CJ got when he was fired by Musharraf has gone to his head. He recently called halt to a bye election which even the Chief Election Commissioner declared unconstitutional.

Despite all the ineptitude one has to remember that PPP gov’t at the centre came about thru popular vote. None of Judges were elected. They were appointed. CJ or any other judge has therefore no business in either running the government or bringing down any government that came up thru democratic process.

It is a pity that PML-N and now Imran Khan are trying to bring down the Zardari gov’t with the help of a very biased and egocentric Chief Justice. Zardari is probably the most corrupt president of the face of the planet, but he is the President of Pakistan. President should be impeached by the parliament and tried only after he is no longer President. Supreme Court is after Zardari but they are denigrating the office of the President of Pakistan in the process. Unfortunately in Pakistan all institutions try to overstep their authority to show that:

“Assaan sub to waddi shay”
 
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There are two points to consider. Firstly there is little doubt that Zardari/Gilani Gov’t is inept and highly corrupt and a change of gov’t will help Pakistan. However in my opinion it should be done thru street demonstrations as happened with the reinstatement of the Chief Justice or thru a vote of no confidence in the incumbent PM.

Second point is Judicial Activism. It is crystal clear that this Supreme Court has surpassed all previous ones on ‘Suo Motto’ actions. The support that CJ got when he was fired by Musharraf has gone to his head. He recently called halt to a bye election which even the Chief Election Commissioner declared unconstitutional.

Despite all the ineptitude one has to remember that PPP gov’t at the centre came about thru popular vote. None of Judges were elected. They were appointed. CJ or any other judge has therefore no business in either running the government or bringing down any government that came up thru democratic process.

It is a pity that PML-N and now Imran Khan are trying to bring down the Zardari gov’t with the help of a very biased and egocentric Chief Justice. Zardari is probably the most corrupt president of the face of the planet, but he is the President of Pakistan. President should be impeached by the parliament and tried only after he is no longer President. Supreme Court is after Zardari but they are denigrating the office of the President of Pakistan in the process. Unfortunately in Pakistan all institutions try to overstep their authority to show that:

“Assaan sub to waddi shay”

Isn't Judicial Activism The Most important pillar of so called "Islamic Society"? Since Holy Quran has said, After Taqwa comes the justice. If i may quote several Judicial activism examples from our Islamic history, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was willing to cut off his beloved daughter hand if she was theif. Abu Bakr (R.A) fought against those who didn't pay Zakah, Umar (R.A) lashed his son and didn't spared his family while dispensing justice. The Judicial Activism of Umar bin Abdul Aziz was most famous which took his life as he was poisoned.

No one is above the law even president of pakistan and parliament is a joke when it comes to dispense justice or impeachment as we all know majority rules in the parliament and we can not impeach corrupt persons ever. and talking about PPP coming on popular public votes, A voter list which contains 40 percent bogus voters will always cast doubts weather PPP come on real public vote or bogus votes.

So when Chief justice halted the by election, he was totally right that no election should be conducted on bogus voters list albeit the timing of his action is wrong.And the other issue which often came why supreme court is after PPP only, why don't any one understand that PPP is running a country so it's too obvious that they will remian under spot light for much of the time Just like Ruling Musharraf remains in his time or Nawaz Sharif remained in his time when his goons attacked the supreme court

The notion exist in our country that Supreme court over steps it's authority most of the time. But when Inept and corrupt politicians don't implement the rulings of supreme court, when they made of fun of their rulings, when they obstruct the path of justice and create hindrance( NICL case, Still mill case, Haj Case, NRO case etc etc) then why no one then says Executive branch is overstepping their authority? Why only Supreme court gets the blame?
 
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Isn't Judicial Activism The Most important pillar of so called "Islamic Society"? Since Holy Quran has said, After Taqwa comes the justice. If i may quote several Judicial activism examples from our Islamic history, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was willing to cut off his beloved daughter hand if she was theif. Abu Bakr (R.A) fought against those who didn't pay Zakah, Umar (R.A) lashed his son. The Judicial Activism of Umar bin Abdul Aziz even took his life as he was poisoned.

No one is above the law even president of pakistan and parliament is a joke when it comes to dispense justice or impeachment as we all know majority rules in the parliament and we can not impeach corrupt persons ever. and talking about PPP coming on popular public votes, A voter list which contains 40 percent bogus voters will always cast doubts weather PPP come on real public vote or bogus votes.

So when Chief justice halted the by election, he was totally right that no election should be conducted on bogus voters list albeit the timing of his action is wrong.And the other issue which often came why supreme court is after PPP only, why don't any one understand that PPP is running a country so it's too obvious that they will remian under spot light for much of the time Just like Ruling Musharraf remains in his time or Nawaz Sharif remained in his time when his goons attacked the supreme court

For an outsider it only seems that most of the time SC is just an instrument of the defence establishment. Why COAS or DG ISI never called to answer their unconstitutional approach against an elected government and for not being answerable to government and parliament?
 
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For an outsider it only seems that most of the time SC is just an instrument of the defence establishment. Why COAS or DG ISI never called to answer their unconstitutional approach against an elected government and for not being answerable to government and parliament?

Current COAS and DG ISI has not done anything unconstitutional which warrants Supreme court wrath on them and speaking of Musharraf, his case is already been heard in lower courts and an arrest warrant issued for him, only problem is he is outside Pakistan and only GOVERNMENT can bring him in Pakistan.
 
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Current COAS and DG ISI has not done anything unconstitutional which warrants Supreme court wrath on them and speaking of Musharraf, his case is already been heard in lower courts and an arrest warrant issued for him, only problem is he is outside Pakistan and only GOVERNMENT can bring him in Pakistan.

Of course they are acting in an unconstitutional manner: they defy both government and parliament. ISPR issues public statements which contradicts government policies and Presidential announcements, and the Minister of Interior explicitly testified that ISI is not under government control. Not to mention that Defence budget is completely without Parliament scrutiny.

Name just one country where a military chief criticises his civilian superiors and stays in office one day more, who dictates to cabinet who will be his successor and appoints Generals as he pleases.

If the above is not unconstitutional behaviour, then please define a scenario in which SC will finally block the Army.
 
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Of course they are acting in an unconstitutional manner: they defy both government and parliament. ISPR issues public statements which contradicts government policies and Presidential announcements, and the Minister of Interior explicitly testified that ISI is not under government control. Not to mention that Defence budget is completely without Parliament scrutiny.

Name just one country where a military chief criticises his civilian superiors and stays in office one day more, who dictates to cabinet who will be his successor and appoints Generals as he pleases.

If the above is not unconstitutional behaviour, then please define a scenario in which SC will finally block the Army.

ISI is a Military Agency. Does Israeli Military Intelligence is under the control of Israeli government or is it under the control of your Army? And the notion that ISI is not answerable to any one is totally wrong as ISI is answerable to Parliament and Judiciary to both as indicated by recent events. ISI top ranking officials appearing before civilians grilling them e.g Major general and brigadier of ISI appearing before one parliamentary committee and DG ISI appearing in parliament as well as responding to judiciary as and when required.

For the second part, Army reacting to Civilian policies. Army only reacts when Civilian government tried to spread wrong information about Army. Tell me one instance where army issued a public statement on purely civilian presidential announcement or any civilian policy. Let me give you examples. Present top brass of Army first reacted when Kerry Lugar bill came out and they contained Anti Army Law. Army again reacted when Prme minister said Army acted unconstitutionally. It's just the same example where Indian Army general dragged Indian government to Supreme court on it's age issue because Government acted immature or it's the same case where Supreme court of Pakistan issues public statements which contradicts government policies and Presidential announcements. Why only pick Army only?

And once again you are spreading false rumors that Military chief dictates who will be his successor or appoints generals as he pleases. There is a whole freaking Army promotion board who promotes military men and it is the President and Prime minister Of pakistan who pics Army chief.

The point is which you are not getting or trying to ignore it completely is Current brass of Army has not violated supreme court rulings and respected and implemented it's every decision which came out from Supreme court.
 
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hey israeli, keep off pakistani matters which you and your masters in washington have little idea off
 
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Isn't Judicial Activism The Most important pillar of so called "Islamic Society"? Since Holy Quran has said, After Taqwa comes the justice. If i may quote several Judicial activism examples from our Islamic history, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was willing to cut off his beloved daughter hand if she was theif. Abu Bakr (R.A) fought against those who didn't pay Zakah, Umar (R.A) lashed his son and didn't spared his family while dispensing justice. The Judicial Activism of Umar bin Abdul Aziz was most famous which took his life as he was poisoned.

No one is above the law even president of pakistan and parliament is a joke when it comes to dispense justice or impeachment as we all know majority rules in the parliament and we can not impeach corrupt persons ever. and talking about PPP coming on popular public votes, A voter list which contains 40 percent bogus voters will always cast doubts weather PPP come on real public vote or bogus votes.

So when Chief justice halted the by election, he was totally right that no election should be conducted on bogus voters list albeit the timing of his action is wrong.And the other issue which often came why supreme court is after PPP only, why don't any one understand that PPP is running a country so it's too obvious that they will remian under spot light for much of the time Just like Ruling Musharraf remains in his time or Nawaz Sharif remained in his time when his goons attacked the supreme court

The notion exist in our country that Supreme court over steps it's authority most of the time. But when Inept and corrupt politicians don't implement the rulings of supreme court, when they made of fun of their rulings, when they obstruct the path of justice and create hindrance( NICL case, Still mill case, Haj Case, NRO case etc etc) then why no one then says Executive branch is overstepping their authority? Why only Supreme court gets the blame?

The cleansing of souls of the Companions (RA) that occurred due to the presence of our holy Prophet (PBUH) in their midst cannot be repeated. So please don’t quote honourable Rashideen in this context; you are simply insulting those pious man when you take their name in the same breath as the arrogant Judges.

I repeat my assertion, Supreme Court does not make laws, it only interprets laws enacted by the legislative assemblies. It is not Judges Job to govern or interfere in the governing process. This has to be left to the Executive no matter how inept. People will throw the Executive out in the next election.

From your post it appears that you don’t much care about the democratic right of the people. Only people have a right to remove an elected government. Head of the State can only be tried when he has left the office.

It is true that no one is above the Law, neither is Supreme Court or the Judges. Therefore they should follow the constitutional procedure for the removal of the PM (a no confidence vote in the NA) and impeachment procedure of the President.

Everyone in Pakistan seems to be trying to bring down an elected government. If you would like CJ and the Supreme Court Judges to run the country instead, so be it. I on other hand wouldn’t; let us agree to disagree.
 
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hey israeli, keep off pakistani matters which you and your masters in washington have little idea off

I know how much you dislike criticism on your impoverished country, but this is the reality: Pakistan is the home for all world's lunatic who likes to play with nuclear bombs and terrorism and thus pose a grave danger to international security.

The situation in Pakistan is relevant to the entire international community, so this pathetic attempt to hash me will hardly work.
 
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