What is Chinese stlye Socialism？

[hexagonsnow]

China have a very different politic system and economic system,much complex than the west.Incude the state-company and private company.
Some one wanna call china as a commuist country ,as a unti market-economic country.However, the Market economic is not disappear in china.The chinese economic is not like soviet style ,neither the west free market- economic system.But it works.But nobody know why ,so did chinese.
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The deutsche bank show the map in 2005 and 2014 respectively, what show the countries in the aspect of export more inclined to the United States, and which countries tend to China.

The state company of china,For example,Sinopec Group ,annual revenue is over 3752.14 hundred million dollars

 

[nang2]

If we have to put ism on it, let's call it pragmatism.

 

[TruthSeeker]

The openness of the market, that is, how free the participants are to deal, as they wish, with each other, without government control, is one important distinction one may study among economies. However, another very important aspect is the degree of, and safety of, private ownership. That is, going forward through the next 50 years, if I was a private citizen of China and I had managed to save $1 million, can I trust that the government will not take it from me in some way: by taxation, outright confiscation, by allowing corruption to flourish, etc.? I think that the reason that this is so important is that it is basic and powerful human nature to try to provide for oneself and the people one loves (family and friends). If an economic system protects private ownership, then this powerful human nature force of "providing for one's own" is unleashed in terms of investment and market competition, resulting in real growth. So, the ultimate "success" of the Chinese approach will also depend on how well the system protects private, accumulated wealth. If it does not, then the wealth will flee to another place and system where it is protected. And economic growth and overall prosperity will also flee.

 

[TaiShang]

If we have to put ism on it, let's call it pragmatism.

I would summarize China's model in three words: territoriality, temporality and organic development.

 

[hexagonsnow]

The openness of the market, that is, how free the participants are to deal, as they wish, with each other, without government control, is one important distinction one may study among economies. However, another very important aspect is the degree of, and safety of, private ownership. That is, going forward through the next 50 years, if I was a private citizen of China and I had managed to save $1 million, can I trust that the government will not take it from me in some way: by taxation, outright confiscation, by allowing corruption to flourish, etc.? I think that the reason that this is so important is that it is basic and powerful human nature to try to provide for oneself and the people one loves (family and friends). If an economic system protects private ownership, then this powerful human nature force of "providing for one's own" is unleashed in terms of investment and market competition, resulting in real growth. So, the ultimate "success" of the Chinese approach will also depend on how well the system protects private, accumulated wealth. If it does not, then the wealth will flee to another place and system where it is protected. And economic growth and overall prosperity will also flee.

AGREE!The Mirco-company need the private protection if we wanna to see the development of them.The chinese Gov have much more power than other countrys,so china can achieve more super project than others,but maybe a barrier for furture properity.

I would summarize China's model in three words: territoriality, temporality and organic development.

How to explain the temporality?

 

[TaiShang]

AGREE!The Mirco-company need the private protection if we wanna to see the development of them.The chinese Gov have much more power than other countrys,so china can achieve more super project than others,but maybe a barrier for furture properity.


How to explain the temporality?

Change as the time requires, but not become fossilized -- unlike the US regime ideology of today, which repeats the archaic ideas of yesterday.

 

[hexagonsnow]

The Corporate giants like Alibaba Huawei and suning Baidu TengXun Lenovo

 

[TaiShang]

The Corporate giants like Alibaba Huawei and suning Baidu TengXun Lenovo
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And there is DJI and Xiaomi.

 

[gambit]

Change as the time requires, but not become fossilized -- unlike the US regime ideology of today, which repeats the archaic ideas of yesterday.

I did not know that Confucius is modern.

 

[LittleFish]

The openness of the market, that is, how free the participants are to deal, as they wish, with each other, without government control, is one important distinction one may study among economies. However, another very important aspect is the degree of, and safety of, private ownership. That is, going forward through the next 50 years, if I was a private citizen of China and I had managed to save $1 million, can I trust that the government will not take it from me in some way: by taxation, outright confiscation, by allowing corruption to flourish, etc.? I think that the reason that this is so important is that it is basic and powerful human nature to try to provide for oneself and the people one loves (family and friends). If an economic system protects private ownership, then this powerful human nature force of "providing for one's own" is unleashed in terms of investment and market competition, resulting in real growth. So, the ultimate "success" of the Chinese approach will also depend on how well the system protects private, accumulated wealth. If it does not, then the wealth will flee to another place and system where it is protected. And economic growth and overall prosperity will also flee.

Soviet Unions and China did had carried out policies developing collective economics at the cost of private properties at the early years of their reign, but it was because the Stalin-style communism can rebuild economy in an amazing speed in contrast with other methods, and with ultimate collective economic policies we managed to develop nukes&ICBM. We have to admit its effects as well as side-effects. Now things has changed, we look highly of private property. You can check the Property Law of PRC:
Property Law of the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also, the 13rd item of Chinese Constitution secures citizens' legitimate private property. Actually today's China is just like US, everyone values private property and works for a better living.

 

[gambit]

...Stalin-style communism can rebuild economy in an amazing speed in contrast with other methods,...

Really is amazing that anyone can say that with a straight face in light of history.

 

[LittleFish]

Really is amazing that anyone can say that with a straight face in light of history.

No doubt it's harmful in the long run, but to begin with it is the only choice for the torn nation.

 

[oprih]

Inclusive growth and development.

 

[hexagonsnow]

Inclusive growth and development.

I regard it as new system for developing country,include the economic and potic system reform.

 

[Jlaw]

The openness of the market, that is, how free the participants are to deal, as they wish, with each other, without government control, is one important distinction one may study among economies. However, another very important aspect is the degree of, and safety of, private ownership. That is, going forward through the next 50 years, if I was a private citizen of China and I had managed to save $1 million, can I trust that the government will not take it from me in some way: by taxation, outright confiscation, by allowing corruption to flourish, etc.? I think that the reason that this is so important is that it is basic and powerful human nature to try to provide for oneself and the people one loves (family and friends). If an economic system protects private ownership, then this powerful human nature force of "providing for one's own" is unleashed in terms of investment and market competition, resulting in real growth. So, the ultimate "success" of the Chinese approach will also depend on how well the system protects private, accumulated wealth. If it does not, then the wealth will flee to another place and system where it is protected. And economic growth and overall prosperity will also flee.

You can say the same with almost any government around the world. Taking money away from people's hard earned money can be introducing negative interest rates for bank deposits (some EU countries have that now). And for course, inflation, sales tax, state tax, capital gains tax, lottery winning tax, etc is the easiest way for government to take away your money.