what India gave to the world!!!!!!

[bongbang]

bangladesh has a legacy india does not have one ?
india was known as bharat,hindustan,jambudvipa,bharatavarsha..etc. Now we dont need a certificate from a lungi baba riding a camel on what we were called. We have our history,epics,culture...etc If you BD has anything like that talk about it. Just bcos BD does not have it ,does not mean the same thing applies to india. do you still read pakistani textbooks

Big talks and hollow accusations out of thin air.

 

[Indika]

Big talks and hollow accusations out of thin air.

Yeah, lets unravel your history name one 4th century AD king of bangladesh ?

 

[bongbang]

Yeah, lets unravel your history name one 4th century AD king of bangladesh ?

Vanga

Vanga an ancient janapada or human settlement in Eastern Bengal. Like all other settlements of the region, its geographical connotation varied in different periods of history.

The name Vanga, indicating a people, occurred for the first time in the Aitareya Aranyaka, where they are mentioned along with the Magadhas. In the Baudhayana Dharmasutra the Vangas are mentioned in a list of peoples who lived in regions beyond the zone of Aryan civilisation in the neighbourhood of Kalinga. In the Puranas they are mentioned along with other eastern people such as Anga, Magadha, Mudgaraka, Pundra, Videha, Tamralipti and Pragjyotisa. The Ramayana mentions the Vangas to be in league with Ayodhya. In the Digvijaya section of the Mahabharata it is related that Bhima killed the king of Modagiri, subjugated the ruler of the Pundras and another potentate who ruled on the banks of the river Kaushiki. He then fell on the Vangas, and after having subjugated the Tamraliptas, Karvatas, Suhmas and the people living in the coastal regions, he reached the banks of the Lauhitya (Brahmaputra). In a later section of the epic it is indicated that the realm of the Vangas extended up to the sea.

The earliest known reference to Vanga as a territorial unit is found in the Arthaxastra of Kautilya, in which it is mentioned as an area where finest quality white and soft cotton fabrics (svetam-snigdham-dukulam) were produced. The references in the Mahaniddesha (c 2nd century AD) and the Milindapanho (c 1st or 2nd century AD) indicate that there was a coastal area approachable from the sea in the territory of Vanga. From the above references Vanga appears to be an eastern country located in the proximity of the janapadas of pundra, suhma, tamralipti, anga, Mudgaraka, Magadha and pragjyotisa. It apparently extended up to the sea. But none alludes to its exact location.

Some indication of its location, however, is available in Kalidasa's Raghuvamsa (4th-5th century AD). While describing the conquests of Raghu, it is mentioned that after having defeated the Suhmas he exterminated the Vangas, who are said to be able naval people (nausadhanodyatan). Raghu then set up pillars of victory in the islands situated in between the channels of the Ganges (Gangasroto' ntaresu). This clearly indicates the location of Vanga in the triangular deltaic land between the two main streams of the Ganges - the Bhagirathi and the Padma. The inhabitants of this submerged flood plain would naturally be able naval people. This is the area which classical Greek and Latin writers termed as gangaridai. The Chinese text Wei-lueh (3rd century AD) referred to Pan-yueh (ie Vanga) as the country of Han-yueh (Xan-gywat) or the Ganga.

The Jaina Upanga Pannavana (Prajnapana), assignable to 1st century BC-1st century AD, furnishes a little wider denotation for Vanga. It includes Tamralipti (Tamluk, Medinipur district) in Vanga. If the tradition recorded in the Mahavamsa regarding the sending of the Bodhi tree to Singhala from Tamalitti during the reign of Ashoka is to be believed, Tamralipti's existence as a port is to be dated back to the Maurya period. So it is not unlikely that in the early historical period Vanga included parts of the territory lying to the west of the Bhagirathi. However, in the post-Gupta period Vanga no longer seemed to include the territory now in West Bengal to the west of the Bhagirathi, when the names of gauda and radha got currency. In the Daxakumaracharita of Dandin, however, Damalipta (a variant of Tamralipta) is referred to as a city in Suhma.

In the Satpanchaxaddexabibhaga section of the Shaktisangamatantra, the territory of Vanga is said to have extended from the sea to the Brahmaputra, which may be taken to have marked its northern as well as eastern boundary. In Yashodhara's commentary on Vatsyayana's Kamasutra, Vanga is located to the east the Lauhitya. This may refer to the extended connotation of the territorial unit of Vanga; the extension resulted from the political domination of Vanga over a wider area.

The epigraphical records of the Sena period refer to Vikramapura bhaga and navya bhaga of Vanga, denoting the greater Dhaka, Faridpur and Barisal areas of Bangladesh. The Kamauli copperplate of Vaidyadeva refers to Anuttara-Vanga or southern Vanga. The Sahitya Parisad copperplate of Vishvarupasena refers to Vangala-vadabhu in the Ramsiddhi pataka of the navya region of Vanga. Ramsiddhi has been identified with the Gaurnadi area of greater Barisal district. Thus the navya division of Vanga can be taken to have comprised the southern part of Bangladesh. Chandradvipa of the Chandra copperplates refers to the same area and was a part of Vanga.

In addition to these divisions of Vanga, early epigraphic and literary records seem to indicate other sub-divisions of Vanga. The Brhat Sanghita mentions Upa-Vanga in the list of countries of the southeastern divisions of India; Vanga is also included in the same list. According to the Digvijaya-Prakaxa (c 1600 AD) Upa-Vanga denoted Jessore and the adjoining forest areas, probably portions of the Sundarbans. The coastal territory in the southern portion of Vanga was vangala, which may have had separate existence at certain period of time.

From the above discussion it is clear that the territorial name of Vanga, as with other such units, had an ethnic origin. It is difficult to ascertain its exact location in different periods of history, but broadly it may be said to have denoted areas in the south and southeastern part of present Bangladesh. It may have extended to areas in southern West Bengal in the earlier period, but the area within the two main streams of the Ganges (from the Bhagirathi to the Padma-Meghna) formed the core of this territorial unit. It was this area which saw the rise of the independent kingdom of Vanga.

In the early part of Muslim rule in Bengal this unit came to be mentioned as 'Bang' and it continued to be so known till the name 'Bangalah' got currency in the mid 14th century to denote the whole region of Bengal (present Bangladesh and the Indian province of West Bengal). [AM Chowdhury]


Bibliography Amitabha Bhattacharyya, Historical Geography of Ancient and Early Mediaeval Bengal, Calcutta, 1977; AM Chowdhury, 'Banglar Bhaugolik Parichay', in Anisuzzaman (ed), Bangla Sahityer Itihasa, I, Dhaka, 1987; BN Mukherjee, Indian Museum Bulletin, XXV, Calcutta, 1990.

Vanga - Banglapedia

 

[manishmaithani]

india did not give my anything not even a single bottle . so for me india give nothing

U never tested "OLD MONK" ?

 

[Kal Muah]

Vanga

Vanga an ancient janapada or human settlement in Eastern Bengal. Like all other settlements of the region, its geographical connotation varied in different periods of history.

The name Vanga, indicating a people, occurred for the first time in the Aitareya Aranyaka, where they are mentioned along with the Magadhas. In the Baudhayana Dharmasutra the Vangas are mentioned in a list of peoples who lived in regions beyond the zone of Aryan civilisation in the neighbourhood of Kalinga. In the Puranas they are mentioned along with other eastern people such as Anga, Magadha, Mudgaraka, Pundra, Videha, Tamralipti and Pragjyotisa. The Ramayana mentions the Vangas to be in league with Ayodhya. In the Digvijaya section of the Mahabharata it is related that Bhima killed the king of Modagiri, subjugated the ruler of the Pundras and another potentate who ruled on the banks of the river Kaushiki. He then fell on the Vangas, and after having subjugated the Tamraliptas, Karvatas, Suhmas and the people living in the coastal regions, he reached the banks of the Lauhitya (Brahmaputra). In a later section of the epic it is indicated that the realm of the Vangas extended up to the sea.

The earliest known reference to Vanga as a territorial unit is found in the Arthaxastra of Kautilya, in which it is mentioned as an area where finest quality white and soft cotton fabrics (svetam-snigdham-dukulam) were produced. The references in the Mahaniddesha (c 2nd century AD) and the Milindapanho (c 1st or 2nd century AD) indicate that there was a coastal area approachable from the sea in the territory of Vanga. From the above references Vanga appears to be an eastern country located in the proximity of the janapadas of . It apparently extended up to the sea. But none alludes to its exact location.

Some indication of its location, however, is available in Kalidasa's Raghuvamsa (4th-5th century AD). While describing the conquests of Raghu, it is mentioned that after having defeated the Suhmas he exterminated the Vangas, who are said to be able naval people (nausadhanodyatan). Raghu then set up pillars of victory in the islands situated in between the channels of the Ganges (Gangasroto' ntaresu). This clearly indicates the location of Vanga in the triangular deltaic land between the two main streams of the Ganges - the Bhagirathi and the Padma. The inhabitants of this submerged flood plain would naturally be able naval people. This is the area which classical Greek and Latin writers termed as gangaridai[/URL]. The Chinese text Wei-lueh (3rd century AD) referred to Pan-yueh (ie Vanga) as the country of Han-yueh (Xan-gywat) or the Ganga.

The Jaina Upanga Pannavana (Prajnapana), assignable to 1st century BC-1st century AD, furnishes a little wider denotation for Vanga. It includes Tamralipti (Tamluk, Medinipur district) in Vanga. If the tradition recorded in the Mahavamsa regarding the sending of the Bodhi tree to Singhala from Tamalitti during the reign of Ashoka is to be believed, Tamralipti's existence as a port is to be dated back to the Maurya period. So it is not unlikely that in the early historical period Vanga included parts of the territory lying to the west of the Bhagirathi. However, in the post-Gupta period Vanga no longer seemed to include the territory now in West Bengal to the west of the Bhagirathi, when the names of got currency. In the Daxakumaracharita of Dandin, however, Damalipta (a variant of Tamralipta) is referred to as a city in Suhma.

In the Satpanchaxaddexabibhaga section of the Shaktisangamatantra, the territory of Vanga is said to have extended from the sea to the Brahmaputra, which may be taken to have marked its northern as well as eastern boundary. In Yashodhara's commentary on Vatsyayana's Kamasutra, Vanga is located to the east the Lauhitya. This may refer to the extended connotation of the territorial unit of Vanga; the extension resulted from the political domination of Vanga over a wider area.

The epigraphical records of the Sena period refer to Vikramapura bhaga and navya bhaga of Vanga, denoting the greater Dhaka, Faridpur and Barisal areas of Bangladesh. The Kamauli copperplate of Vaidyadeva refers to Anuttara-Vanga or southern Vanga. The Sahitya Parisad copperplate of Vishvarupasena refers to Vangala-vadabhu in the Ramsiddhi pataka of the navya region of Vanga. Ramsiddhi has been identified with the Gaurnadi area of greater Barisal district. Thus the navya division of Vanga can be taken to have comprised the southern part of Bangladesh. Chandradvipa of the Chandra copperplates refers to the same area and was a part of Vanga.

In addition to these divisions of Vanga, early epigraphic and literary records seem to indicate other sub-divisions of Vanga. The Brhat Sanghita mentions Upa-Vanga in the list of countries of the southeastern divisions of India; Vanga is also included in the same list. According to the Digvijaya-Prakaxa (c 1600 AD) Upa-Vanga denoted Jessore and the adjoining forest areas, probably portions of the Sundarbans. The coastal territory in the southern portion of Vanga was , which may have had separate existence at certain period of time.

From the above discussion it is clear that the territorial name of Vanga, as with other such units, had an ethnic origin. It is difficult to ascertain its exact location in different periods of history, but broadly it may be said to have denoted areas in the south and southeastern part of present Bangladesh. It may have extended to areas in southern West Bengal in the earlier period, but the area within the two main streams of the Ganges (from the Bhagirathi to the Padma-Meghna) formed the core of this territorial unit. It was this area which saw the rise of the independent kingdom of Vanga.

In the early part of Muslim rule in Bengal this unit came to be mentioned as 'Bang' and it continued to be so known till the name 'Bangalah' got currency in the mid 14th century to denote the whole region of Bengal (present Bangladesh and the Indian province of West Bengal). [AM Chowdhury]


Bibliography Amitabha Bhattacharyya, Historical Geography of Ancient and Early Mediaeval Bengal, Calcutta, 1977; AM Chowdhury, 'Banglar Bhaugolik Parichay', in Anisuzzaman (ed), Bangla Sahityer Itihasa, I, Dhaka, 1987; BN Mukherjee, Indian Museum Bulletin, XXV, Calcutta, 1990.

[]Vanga - Banglapedia[/URL]

Gangaridai Kingdom, Varendra, Vanga Kingdom, Pundravardhana, Suhma Kingdom, Anga Kingdom, Harikela Kingdom, Samatata Kingdom were from vedic period, which itself is a part of indian subcontinent please tell us now how we are aliens to your people?

 

[Indika]

Vanga

Vanga an ancient janapada or human settlement in Eastern Bengal. Like all other settlements of the region, its geographical connotation varied in different periods of history.

The name Vanga, indicating a people, occurred for the first time in the Aitareya Aranyaka, where they are mentioned along with the Magadhas. In the Baudhayana Dharmasutra the Vangas are mentioned in a list of peoples who lived in regions beyond the zone of Aryan civilisation in the neighbourhood of Kalinga. In the Puranas they are mentioned along with other eastern people such as Anga, Magadha, Mudgaraka, Pundra, Videha, Tamralipti and Pragjyotisa. The Ramayana mentions the Vangas to be in league with Ayodhya. In the Digvijaya section of the Mahabharata it is related that Bhima killed the king of Modagiri, subjugated the ruler of the Pundras and another potentate who ruled on the banks of the river Kaushiki. He then fell on the Vangas, and after having subjugated the Tamraliptas, Karvatas, Suhmas and the people living in the coastal regions, he reached the banks of the Lauhitya (Brahmaputra). In a later section of the epic it is indicated that the realm of the Vangas extended up to the sea.

The earliest known reference to Vanga as a territorial unit is found in the Arthaxastra of Kautilya, in which it is mentioned as an area where finest quality white and soft cotton fabrics (svetam-snigdham-dukulam) were produced. The references in the Mahaniddesha (c 2nd century AD) and the Milindapanho (c 1st or 2nd century AD) indicate that there was a coastal area approachable from the sea in the territory of Vanga. From the above references Vanga appears to be an eastern country located in the proximity of the janapadas of pundra, suhma, tamralipti, anga, Mudgaraka, Magadha and pragjyotisa. It apparently extended up to the sea. But none alludes to its exact location.

Some indication of its location, however, is available in Kalidasa's Raghuvamsa (4th-5th century AD). While describing the conquests of Raghu, it is mentioned that after having defeated the Suhmas he exterminated the Vangas, who are said to be able naval people (nausadhanodyatan). Raghu then set up pillars of victory in the islands situated in between the channels of the Ganges (Gangasroto' ntaresu). This clearly indicates the location of Vanga in the triangular deltaic land between the two main streams of the Ganges - the Bhagirathi and the Padma. The inhabitants of this submerged flood plain would naturally be able naval people. This is the area which classical Greek and Latin writers termed as gangaridai. The Chinese text Wei-lueh (3rd century AD) referred to Pan-yueh (ie Vanga) as the country of Han-yueh (Xan-gywat) or the Ganga.

The Jaina Upanga Pannavana (Prajnapana), assignable to 1st century BC-1st century AD, furnishes a little wider denotation for Vanga. It includes Tamralipti (Tamluk, Medinipur district) in Vanga. If the tradition recorded in the Mahavamsa regarding the sending of the Bodhi tree to Singhala from Tamalitti during the reign of Ashoka is to be believed, Tamralipti's existence as a port is to be dated back to the Maurya period. So it is not unlikely that in the early historical period Vanga included parts of the territory lying to the west of the Bhagirathi. However, in the post-Gupta period Vanga no longer seemed to include the territory now in West Bengal to the west of the Bhagirathi, when the names of gauda and radha got currency. In the Daxakumaracharita of Dandin, however, Damalipta (a variant of Tamralipta) is referred to as a city in Suhma.

In the Satpanchaxaddexabibhaga section of the Shaktisangamatantra, the territory of Vanga is said to have extended from the sea to the Brahmaputra, which may be taken to have marked its northern as well as eastern boundary. In Yashodhara's commentary on Vatsyayana's Kamasutra, Vanga is located to the east the Lauhitya. This may refer to the extended connotation of the territorial unit of Vanga; the extension resulted from the political domination of Vanga over a wider area.

The epigraphical records of the Sena period refer to Vikramapura bhaga and navya bhaga of Vanga, denoting the greater Dhaka, Faridpur and Barisal areas of Bangladesh. The Kamauli copperplate of Vaidyadeva refers to Anuttara-Vanga or southern Vanga. The Sahitya Parisad copperplate of Vishvarupasena refers to Vangala-vadabhu in the Ramsiddhi pataka of the navya region of Vanga. Ramsiddhi has been identified with the Gaurnadi area of greater Barisal district. Thus the navya division of Vanga can be taken to have comprised the southern part of Bangladesh. Chandradvipa of the Chandra copperplates refers to the same area and was a part of Vanga.

In addition to these divisions of Vanga, early epigraphic and literary records seem to indicate other sub-divisions of Vanga. The Brhat Sanghita mentions Upa-Vanga in the list of countries of the southeastern divisions of India; Vanga is also included in the same list. According to the Digvijaya-Prakaxa (c 1600 AD) Upa-Vanga denoted Jessore and the adjoining forest areas, probably portions of the Sundarbans. The coastal territory in the southern portion of Vanga was vangala, which may have had separate existence at certain period of time.

From the above discussion it is clear that the territorial name of Vanga, as with other such units, had an ethnic origin. It is difficult to ascertain its exact location in different periods of history, but broadly it may be said to have denoted areas in the south and southeastern part of present Bangladesh. It may have extended to areas in southern West Bengal in the earlier period, but the area within the two main streams of the Ganges (from the Bhagirathi to the Padma-Meghna) formed the core of this territorial unit. It was this area which saw the rise of the independent kingdom of Vanga.

In the early part of Muslim rule in Bengal this unit came to be mentioned as 'Bang' and it continued to be so known till the name 'Bangalah' got currency in the mid 14th century to denote the whole region of Bengal (present Bangladesh and the Indian province of West Bengal). [AM Chowdhury]


Bibliography Amitabha Bhattacharyya, Historical Geography of Ancient and Early Mediaeval Bengal, Calcutta, 1977; AM Chowdhury, 'Banglar Bhaugolik Parichay', in Anisuzzaman (ed), Bangla Sahityer Itihasa, I, Dhaka, 1987; BN Mukherjee, Indian Museum Bulletin, XXV, Calcutta, 1990.

Vanga - Banglapedia

you have serious comprehension problem , hindustan ==> land of hindus, were the vangas following islam ?
karnataka, tamilnadu ,all the southern states were ruled by mulitple hindu rulers does it make them different . they were just fragmented just like germany or italy was . Irony is you end up quoting hindu epics to deny indias existence .
This is however a dramatised version by poet Kalidasa. This varies dramatically from the version in the epic Mahabharata.[6]

Crying of Shakuntala
In his youth, Bharata became the King. Young Bharata conquered and ruled the entire sub continent of India, from sea to Himalaya. His empire was named Bharatavarsha, the land of Bharata.

Vishnu Purana accounts the extent of Bharatavarsha,

उत्तरं यत्समुद्रस्य हिमाद्रेश्चैव दक्षिणम् ।
वर्षं तद् भारतं नाम भारती यत्र संततिः ।।

uttaraṃ yatsamudrasya himādreścaiva dakṣiṇamvarṣaṃ tadbhārataṃ nāma bhāratī yatra santatiḥ

"The country (varṣam) that lies north of the ocean and south of the snowy mountains is called Bhāratam; there dwell the descendants of Bharata."

Gangaridai Kingdom, Varendra, Vanga Kingdom, Pundravardhana, Suhma Kingdom, Anga Kingdom, Harikela Kingdom, Samatata Kingdom were from vedic period, which itself is a part of indian subcontinent please tell us now how we are aliens to your people?

follows camel in tent philosophy.

 

[bongbang]

you have serious comprehension problem , hindustan ==> land of hindus, were the vangas following islam ?

When did I say Bangladesh is an Islamic country? I said about people and land. Our people had gone through different ideologies. Non Aryan, Aryan/Hindu, Buddhist, Islam.

 

[Kal Muah]

When did I say Bangladesh is an Islamic country? I said about people and land. Our people had gone through different ideologies. Non Aryan, Aryan/Hindu, Buddhist, Islam.

Sir, again you are quoting Aryan theory, to suit your needs, which has been disproved again and again and has been published in nature magazine even. On one hand you fight with India saying they take up all the history and on the other hand denies your own history which has been proved and published.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

FACTS ABOUT INDIA


a.. India never invaded any country in her last 10000 years of history.

b.. India invented the Number System. Zero was invented by Aryabhatta.

c.. The World's first university was established in Takshila in 700BC.
More than 10,500 students from all over the world studies more
than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4th century
BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field
of education.

d.. Sanskrit is the mother of all the European languages. Sanskrit is
the most suitable language for computer software - a report in
Forbes magazine, July 1987.

e.. Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans.
Charaka, the father of medicine consolidated Ayurveda 2500 years ago.
Today Ayurveda is fast regaining its rightful place in our
civilization.

f.. Although modern images of India often show poverty and lack of
development, India was the richest country on earth until the time of
British invasion in the early 17th Century.

g.. The art of Navigation was born in the river Sindh 6000 years ago.
The very word Navigation is derived from the Sanskrit word NAVGATIH.
The word navy is also derived from Sanskrit 'Nou'.

h.. Bhaskaracharya calculated the time taken by the earth to orbit the
sun hundreds of years before the astronomer Smart.
Time taken by earth to orbit the sun: (5th century)365.258756484 days.

i.. The value of "pi" was first calculated by Budhayana, and he
explained the concept of what is known as the Pythagorean Theorem. He
discovered this in the 6th century long before the European
mathematicians.

j.. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India.
Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11th century.
The largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas
Hindus used numbers as big as 1053(10 to the power of (53) with
specific names as early as 5000 BCE during the Vedic period. Even today,
the largest used number is Tera 1012(10 to the power of 12).

k.. According to the Gemological Institute of America, up until 1896,
India was the only source for diamonds to the world.

l.. USA based IEEE has proved what has been a century old suspicion in
the world scientific community that the pioneer of wireless
communication was Prof. Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi.

m.. The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in
Saurashtra.

n.. According to Saka King Rudradaman I of 150 CE a beautiful lake
called 'Sudarshana' was constructed on the hills of Raivataka during
Chandragupta Maurya's time.

o.. Chess (Shataranja or AshtaPada) was invented in India.

p.. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health
scientists of his time conducted complicated surgeries like cesareans,
cataract, artificial limbs, fractures, urinary stones and even plastic
surgery and brain surgery. Usage of anesthesia was well known
in ancient India. Over 125 surgical equipment were used. Deep knowledge
of anatomy, physiology, etiology, embryology, digestion, metabolism,
genetics and immunity is also found in many texts.

q.. When many cultures were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years
ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley(Indus Valley
Civilization)

r.. The place value system, the decimal system was developed in
India in 100 BC.

Buttons were first invented in India

India is.......the Largest democracy in the world, the 6th largest country in the world AND one of the most ancient and living civilizations (at least 10, 000 years old).

The name `India’ is derived from the River Indus, the valleys around which were the home of the early settlers. The Aryan worshippers referred to the river Indus as the Sindhu.

The game of snakes & ladders was created by the 13th century poet saint Gyandev. It was originally called 'Mokshapat.' The ladders in the game represented virtues and the snakes indicated vices. The game was played with cowrie shells and dices. Later through time, the game underwent several modifications but the meaning is the same i.e good deeds take us to heaven.




QUOTES ABOUT INDIA

a.. Albert Einstein said:

We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without
which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.

b.. Mark Twain said:

India is, the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech,
the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great
grand mother of tradition. Our most valuable and most structive
materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only.

c.. French scholar Romain Rolland said:

If there is one place on the face of earth where all the dreams of
living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the
dream of existence, it is India.

d.. Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA said:

"Many of the advances in the sciences
that we consider today to have been made in Europe
were in fact made in India centuries ago."

- Grant Duff
British Historian of India


"India was the motherland of our race
and Sanskrit the mother of Europe's languages.
India was the mother of our philosophy,
of much of our mathematics, of the ideals embodied in christianity... of self-government and democracy.
In many ways, Mother India is the mother of us all."
- Will Durant
- American Historian 1885-1981

CURRENT INFORMATION:

-There are 3.22 Million Indians in America. 38% of Doctors in America are Indians. 12% of Scientists in America are Indians. 36% of NASA employees are Indians. 34% of MICROSOFT employees are Indians 28% of IBM employees are Indians 17% of INTEL employees are Indians 13% of XEROX employees are Indians

-First democracy to elect a woman Prime Minister.
India is the 7th nuclear power in the world
India is the 5th largest economy in the world
India is the largest democracy in the world
India has the 2nd largest population in the world(could be a bad point)
India is the 4th nation in the world to have developed/or developing a nuclear submarine
India is the 5th nation in the world to be in the multi billion dollar space commerce business.
India is the 4th nation in the world to develop(or nearly to) ICBM's(can travel up to 14,000km)
India is the 3rd nation in the world, to be able to develop land based and sea based cruise missiles.

TECHNOLOGICAL/SCIENTIFIC ACHIEVEMENTS
- the technique of algorithm used in computer science today.
- the science of algebra. (Indian's invented, Arabs took it when they invaded, and gave it to the then "primitive" Europeans)
- the concept of zero - on which ultimately rests the binary code which has given us all software including the WWW through which
you are accessing this site!
- the technique of manufacturing crystal (sugar)cane sugar
(the word sugar is derived from the Sanskrit term "Sharkara").
- the making of camphor (MODERN chemists know how important this chemical is).
- the making of tin (the technical English word for tin
is Cassiterite which is said to have been derived from the Sanskrit term
"Kasthira").
-believe it or not, Kung Fu is a derivation of Yoga---taught to the Chinese by an Indian Bhuddist Monk known as Bodidharma (ask any Kung Fu Grand Master, or check the internet for yourself).
-The earliest recorded use of copperware in India has been around 3000 B.C. the findings at Mohen-jo-daro and Harappa, bear this out The earliest documented observation of smelting of metals in India is by Greek Historians in the 4th Century B.C.

When Europeans were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley (Indus Valley Civilization)



India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without
ever having to send a single soldier across her border.

All the above is just the TIP of the iceberg, the list could be endless.
BUT, if we don't see even a glimpse of that great India in the India that
we see today, it clearly means that we are not working up to our
potential and that if we do, we could once again be an evershining and
inspiring country setting abright path for rest of the world to follow.


Stay tuned for much more facts to follow.

India never invaded a country in 1000 years. It tried in vein invading Pakistan in 1965 n in 1971. India only came into being in 1947. Before that it was a garbage of princely states, Never was united under an indian banner.

What india gave to the World?
Answer; Vedic Farts.

 

[Kal Muah]

India never invaded a country in 1000 years. It tried in vein invading Pakistan in 1965 n in 1971. India only came into being in 1947. Before that it was a garbage of princely states, Never was united under an indian banner.

What india gave to the World?
Answer; Vedic Farts.

Sir, before insulting, you might want to go through the posts that i have written, so as to remove your doubts on India came in 47

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Sir, before insulting, you might want to go through the posts that i have written, so as to remove your doubts on India came in 47

India was name of this region but wasnt a country's name. Thats why when we came here we named u Hindustan. Afterwards british called this region Indian sub continent and named yr country British India. After 1947 yr forefathers had named u Bharat! Thats the real name u have.

But that claim of u not invading any country for abt 1000 years is just a pure lie. Yr Republic of india has done that several times with Pakistan as well as with China in 1962.

Before that why u had not actually invaded another country was because according to yr orthodox hinduic philosophy its a sin to go outside of yr Bharat which according to it is from Indus Basin to Ganges Basin. It wasnt for the love of humanity or for peace as yr trying to portray here.

 

[bongbang]

Sir, again you are quoting Aryan theory, to suit your needs, which has been disproved again and again and has been published in nature magazine even. On one hand you fight with India saying they take up all the history and on the other hand denies your own history which has been proved and published.

Tell this to your 3% Aryan countrymen who think they are superior than us.

 

[Kal Muah]

India was name of this region but wasnt a country's name. Thats why when we came here we named u Hindustan. Afterwards british called this region Indian sub continent and named yr country British India. After 1947 yr forefathers had named u Bharat! Thats the real name u have.

But that claim of u not invading any country for abt 1000 years is just a pure lie. Yr Republic of india has done that several times with Pakistan as well as with China in 1962.

Before that why u had not actually invaded another country was because according to yr orthodox hinduic philosophy its a sin to go outside of yr Bharat which according to it is from Indus Basin to Ganges Basin. It wasnt for the love of humanity or for peace as yr trying to portray here.

Sir, India was refered as Indica by Megasthenes, Xuanzang refered India and its cultures in his book The Great Tang Records on the Western Regions. Secondly, India neither wants any piece of land from Pakistan and certainly not from China. Thirdly, I dont know which sin you are talking about and where you have read that its a sin to go outside India.

Tell this to your 3% Aryan countrymen who think they are superior than us.

Sir, after repetitively giving you ample proofs and logics that there is no Aryan theory, yet you choose to carefully overlook it. See this the reason they make fun of you, and Nobody is thinking superior than others. The only reason India makes fun of you, is because of your identity crisis and how you people never embrace your history. If you cant respect something of your own, how can you except others to respect you?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Sir, India was refered as Indica by Megasthenes, Xuanzang refered India and its cultures in his book The Great Tang Records on the Western Regions. Secondly, India neither wants any piece of land from Pakistan and certainly not from China. Thirdly, I dont know which sin you are talking about and where you have read that its a sin to go outside India.



Sir, after repetitively giving you ample proofs and logics that there is no Aryan theory, yet you choose to carefully overlook it. See this the reason they make fun of you, and Nobody is thinking superior than others. The only reason India makes fun of you, is because of your identity crisis and how you people never embrace your history. If you cant respect something of your own, how can you except others to respect you?

Thats what i have said. India was a term coined by west to identity this region. But that wasnt any Nation or a country that u say it is. Read my post carefully.

India does want land as well as invades foreign countries thats true in the case of Rep of india, examples r of 1962 war with china and 1948,1965 and 1971 wars with Pakistan.

According to yr some hindu scriptures that is the sin. To name one it is uppanishads and bhagwat purana (if im corret.)

 

[jamahir]

Sir, i respect your opinion about idolatry, that it never could protect the nature or strikes of man.

thank you.

So let me tell you about first islam then. Please enlighten us how killing gay people is justified?

it is of course unjustifiable when there has been no violence involved, but at this point i don't know what to say about the western establishment, especially british, pushing male homosexuality as something to be fashionably adopted in schools and college.

i must point out that in a modern progressive experiment society - the ussr, male homosexuals caught for public acts were imprisoned for seven years.

or how stoning the devil is?

that custom i find unnecessary, quasi-violent and actually contradictory to the cleansing ways of islam... the custom is said to be pre-islami abrahamic but maybe it is simply a arabic pagan custom included for the political purpose of drawing pagan arabs to the fold of islam.

and since muslims dont believe in praying to rock how come they visit mecca to pray which is also a piece of rock?

good question.

the kaaba ( the piece of rock you mention ) is a empty cubic building of stone blocks... it has nothing inside... the building has been rebuilt a few times in varying materials but originally it is said to have been built by prophet abraham ( ibrahim ) and his son ishmael ( ismail ), before the establishment of islam, it was used by the pagan arabs of makkah as a temple to three goddesses - allat, uzza and mannat, the idols of whom were inside.

in the rituals of the hajj, the kaaba serves as more a focal point, a device, in remembrance of god and not the object of worship itself and is not considered to have any magical powers... also, the kaaba is in two ways used to affirm the communtarian aspect of islam - (a). when the hajis circumambulate ( circle ) the kaaba seven times, they do so as a single mass, (b). all praying muslims in the world turn to one direction to pray ( the qibla ).

Dont people waste chaddars on mosque instead of giving to beggars.

though the chaddar is not technically part of islam and more a cultural thing, i agree to your point and extend that historically there should have been no beggar or deprived person in a muslim-governed society and it is to the discredit of especially south asian muslims that they spent money and put effort into superstitions rather than create a society of economic comfort.

all things must evolve and i see modern socialism/communism as the furtherance of all progressive ideologies in history, including islam... some on this forum and many offline would tell you that "islam is perfect" but that is a immature declaration... modern socialism creates societies that provide far more political, economic and social facilities than the basic tenets of islam but i acknowledge the first practical codification of socialistic laws were through islam.

nevertheless, i am socialist and i reject existence of any other human future but socialist/communist.

Coming to Christians how they keep jesus idols and pray in front of him when they itself consider idolatry pagan. I dont want to belittle another religion but the selective criticism by a person of your stature isnt very good. Religions are never meant to be perfect, it will always evolve with time. While some people chose god to be a formless entity other chose to gave him a shape, while a few put him in cross and some gave the status of messenger. Everyone chose to his own way to define who god is. Just because your idea is different then mine, doesnt gave you any power to belittle another one. You may be agnostic, atheist, religious, noone cares, but holier then thou attitude isnt very perfect.

i get your point but i think we can agree that all the older religions should have long been reshaped into a basic globally agreeable form, stripped of all ritualism, superstitions and negative aspects, such that they are a set of teachings and laws that provided freedoms and rights and the worship needs of people concentrated on a simplifying single unitary god... but this didn't happen.

in india, the "uniform civil code" would be a form of this progressive model for the immediate term.