What if the Subcontinent was ONE country?

[Tea addict]

Im going even before that for "India" to be united today (like say Mauryan or Gupta rule but a much more longer and stronger episode of it that would leave a better imprint as far as internal resilience, sustained political system and defence to foreign invasion while promoting greater internal cohesion like say Emperor Qi of China did with his uni-language edict etc). Mughals already sowed a lot of division and long term culture conflict and instability imo for a cohesive state to exist at large frontier border (with multi-society state inside it)....especially when there were more potent united and power projecting ones stemming from the West at crucial time in history. Basically I'm saying the issue lies with that multi-society needing to be inherently less-multi for a more unitary political setup to take place at the size in OP....rather than any recent empire rule (say mughals or british) at whatever specific time being able to address it.

More or less what we have today is about the "best" we can expect....given the vast scale of diversity and pervasive clash/conflict in this region stemming from that.

Being indian, I think we got the best deal from the partition in every aspect..only regret is that we couldn't get entire J&K state and today have no direct land route to central Asia..I think they considered capturing the Jammu belt more crucial for water rather than land route for trade and geopolitics.. nevermind still the best deal considering we got all Hindu majority states, half of punjab and Bengal which was Muslim majority..later also got large part of J&k..most of land being fertile compared to arid areas of pakistan like Sindh, Balochistan,NWFP and FATA.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Don't worry ..... you are going to get it "soon". Keep quite till then.

Constitution is only paper, currently you have extremist terrorist hindu supporting state where human rights goes in garbage, this is world biggest s*** democracy and shining India is @Nityam

 

[Nilgiri]

Being indian, I think we got the best deal from the partition in every aspect..only regret is that we couldn't get entire J&K state and today have no direct land route to central Asia..I think they considered capturing the Jammu belt more crucial for water rather than land route for trade and geopolitics.. nevermind still the best deal considering we got all Hindu majority states, half of punjab and Bengal which was Muslim majority..later also got large part of J&k..most of land being fertile compared to arid areas of pakistan like Sindh, Balochistan,NWFP and FATA.

Yep...its fine, we should focus on making what we have...fully developed and the best we can....rather than dwell on the regrets, blame, previous oppression etc....because that is just going to lead to envy and anger which are too distracting (harsh lessons need to be learned and remembered from those episodes, but thats it). Then only we can sustainably make an argument of greater spheres, greater reaches and greater destiny etc....to finally honour those forefathers we owe our existence to in first place.

 

[Tea addict]

Yep...its fine, we should focus on making what we have...fully developed and the best we can....rather than dwell on the regrets, blame, previous oppression etc....because that is just going to lead to envy and anger which are too distracting (harsh lessons need to be learned and remembered from those episodes, but thats it). Then only we can sustainably make an argument of greater spheres, greater reaches and greater destiny etc....to finally honour those forefathers we owe our existence to in first place.

Yes, we should make the best use of what we have. Even now we are big enough that if our human resource is used efficiently, we can still achieve a greater destiny. All this " what if we were one,we could have achieved this " is done by either extreme left ( pseudo liberals) or extreme right( religious extremists) ..most people are happy with what we have.

 

[hussain0216]

If we were one there would be alot of dead people


Dont want to live with hindus

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Where did you learn English from? Really I would say take a gun and shoot your English teacher because he or she did a pretty bad job.

i'm sorry i typed that on my phone while walking out my door. My laptop is broken which means I can only use my phone right now unfortunately.

 

[war&peace]

i'm sorry i typed that on my phone while walking out my door. My laptop is broken which means I can only use my phone right now unfortunately.

Mate, first of all countries do not accept religion rather it is the nations..and FYI, coterminous Pakistan and a vast areas in coterminous republic of India are inhabited by Muslims for centuries before 1947.

 

[Jugger]

Being indian, I think we got the best deal from the partition in every aspect..only regret is that we couldn't get entire J&K state and today have no direct land route to central Asia..I think they considered capturing the Jammu belt more crucial for water rather than land route for trade and geopolitics.. nevermind still the best deal considering we got all Hindu majority states, half of punjab and Bengal which was Muslim majority..later also got large part of J&k..most of land being fertile compared to arid areas of pakistan like Sindh, Balochistan,NWFP and FATA.

Exactly, India got the best deal during partition of the subcontinent. Majority of the land with majority of the population and resources.
We should thank our fortunes and good governance that even after 70 years we are still united and going strong as an emerging world power.
Nobody would give a damn if we were a small nation with underdeveloped backward population.

 

[Kaniska]

I have just one thing to say....Thank You Jinah...If we would have followed the principle of Gandhi...then we have to deal with multiple kashmir today...

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Being indian, I think we got the best deal from the partition in every aspect..only regret is that we couldn't get entire J&K state and today have no direct land route to central Asia..I think they considered capturing the Jammu belt more crucial for water rather than land route for trade and geopolitics.. nevermind still the best deal considering we got all Hindu majority states, half of punjab and Bengal which was Muslim majority..later also got large part of J&k..most of land being fertile compared to arid areas of pakistan like Sindh, Balochistan,NWFP and FATA.

Including Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Maldives, Arakan & Coco Islands would have made India very stronger.

I have just one thing to say....Thank You Jinah...If we would have followed the principle of Gandhi...then we have to deal with multiple kashmir today...

Why thank Jinnah? Jinnah desired united India. You should Thank Nehru for the Partition.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Mate, first of all countries do not accept religion rather it is the nations..and FYI, coterminous Pakistan and a vast areas in coterminous republic of India are inhabited by Muslims for centuries before 1947.

my point was a united subcontinent would only be possible if the majority of people in pakistan, bangladesh, and even parts of india had not accepted Islam.

 

[SQ8]

Considering that

Including Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Maldives, Arakan & Coco Islands would have made India very stronger.



Why thank Jinnah? Jinnah desired united India. You should Thank Nehru for the Partition.

exactly, Nehru’s seduction of Lady mountbatten took away most of Pakistan’s useful capacity.. India was the privileged child out of this separation and yet Pakistan has managed to survive the onslaught of conniving and hatred from blessed India.

 

[war&peace]

my point was a united subcontinent would only be possible if the majority of people in pakistan, bangladesh, and even parts of india had not accepted Islam.

So your problem is from Islam. But under Muslim rulers, India was united for longer than any other religion.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

exactly, Nehru’s seduction of Lady mountbatten took away most of Pakistan’s useful capacity.. India was the privileged child out of this separation and yet Pakistan has managed to survive the onslaught of conniving and hatred from blessed India.

If his affair fetched a better deal then Nehru deserves a pat on the back. Can't speculate on that but Lord Mountbatten surely did favor India. He literally gave orders to the princely states to get in line and sign the accession treaties with India.

 

[Clutch]

Its just a assumption no need to get serious or dive into pointless debates, we all know thats never going to happen.

Then why post it on a discussion forum if you do not want any discussion about it?

Are you saying just watch and agree?

Lol.

Hindutvaism is a cancer that will never allow for any unity. Moo par ram ram baghal may chooree mantra