What if Pakistan did not have the bomb? Hoodbhoy

[Qasibr]

I have been following the writings of Hoodbhoy for quiet a while. I disagree with much of what he says because it is factually incorrect. He seems like a very well-informed person, which is why it is surprising how he leaves half the facts out, and then uses half-truths to present an entirely different picture. He has a large following, people literally fawning over every word he says, accepting that as the truth because they don't know any better.

In this article, he accepts India's stance on everything as an accepted truth. Insinuating that the 2002 attack on the Indian parliament was because of Pakistani-based militants, so was the 2008 Mumbai attack. Even though there are *facts* that refute that. 2008 Mumbai attacks, around half a dozen terrorists taking control of a THREE-HUNDRED room building, and the Indian authorities aren't able to get in for almost a week. Even cursory thought shows that half a dozen people cannot, in ANY way, cover three hundred rooms, absolutely can't. The Indian authorities could have broken into the building and those terrorists wouldn't even had known. And then the Indians present Pakistan a "dossier" in Gujrati, of all languages(a stonewalling tactic), and the dossier offers as proof of Pakistan's involvement evidence that the terrorists were carrying "sufi soap" and other Pakistan-made detergents and stuff. Utterly ridiculous. Entirely different matter that our incompetent govt completely failed to stand up in any way.

Many other points..

About Bangladesh. The main thrust of his article is about that issue. He is leaving many critical facts out, because these facts would show his agenda to be duplicitous. Yuri Bezmenov was a high-level KGB agent who had been active in India for a long time, and defected in 1970. He said that after the 1965 Pakistan-India war, the Soviet Union was helping India focus on East Pakistan(as Bangladesh was called back then), and he was disgusted by the dirty game they were playing and that was the final straw that made him defect. And he says he was surprised that the CIA knew exactly what was going on and did nothing. Watch this interview of Bezmenov from the 1980s; Move to 3:40 if you want to get to the bit I'm citing:

YouTube - ‪Soviet Subversion of the Free World Press 7/9‬‏

So there was an entirely different side to the Bangladesh issue. West Pakistan was not entirely clean, the political elite of the time was incompetent and driven by self-interest. Bhutto, though worshipped by some in Pakistan, had a huge role in the split, as he had lost the election to Mujeeb-ur-Rehman and still wanted to rule. And it breaks my heart, it really does, when I see some of the brutality that the Pakistani Army resorted to in Bangladesh. There were many needless deaths, Muslims killing Muslims. And whenever Pakistanis go to Bangladesh it feels like such a warm feeling, the level of respect, kindness, and brotherliness we have for each other. But alot of facts - especially facts from unbiased non-Pakistani, non-Indian sources - indicate that the '71 incident was not as simple as our politicians would have us believe.

I highly recommend watching the video. Yuri Bezmenov is actually a huge fan of India, loved the culture and ancient traditions, and felt that Pakistan and India were being destroyed, being played like that in games between superpowers.

 

[Burger Boy]

I'm not sure what Hoodbhoy is advocating here. If he is supporting Pakistan to be totally disarmed of nuclear weapons, then I disagree with him.
If he is saying that Pakistan should cut down production of nuclear weapons, and concentrate more on development of the economy, then I suppose I could say I agree with him.

If Pakistan did not have nuclear weapons, there could've been 2 or more wars with India that would've begun.

 

[1 ummah]

dr.abdul qadir naiki kr drya me daal!

 

[laiqs@mi]

ok now what i am observing here is that Indian and americans supporting Hoodbhys stance it means its anti pakistan. and this basta**d always spits against pakistan and pakistani nukes. once he said if after tsunami japan is not able to cover the disaster then how could pakistan if it hapens in pakistan. but we all know pakistan offer and two pakistani scientist went to help. it means we have very good experts in Atomic techs. but this retard only presents half of the truth. beghairat. he is and he must be declared enemy of pakistan. and ghadar.

 

[Zarvan]

What if Pakistan did not have the bomb?

Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan has spent the last few years confined by the Pakistan Army to one of his palatial Islamabad residences where he whiles away his days writing weekly columns in newspapers. This venerable metallurgist, who claims paternity rights over Pakistan’s bomb, says it alone saves Pakistan. In a recent article, he wistfully wrote: “If we had had nuclear capability before 1971, we would not have lost half of our country – present-day Bangladesh – after disgraceful defeat.”

Given that 30,000 nuclear weapons failed to save the Soviet Union from decay, defeat and collapse, could the Bomb really have saved Pakistan in 1971? Can it do so now?

Let’s revisit 1971. Those of us who grew up in those times know in our hearts that East and West Pakistan were one country but never one nation. Young people today cannot imagine the rampant anti-Bengali racism among West Pakistanis then. With great shame, I must admit that as a thoughtless young boy I too felt embarrassed about small and dark people being among our compatriots. Victims of a delusion, we thought that good Muslims and Pakistanis were tall, fair, and spoke chaste Urdu. Some schoolmates would laugh at the strange sounding Bengali news broadcasts from Radio Pakistan.

The Bengali people suffered under West Pakistani rule. They believed their historical destiny was to be a Bengali-speaking nation, not the Urdu-speaking East Pakistan which Jinnah wanted. The East was rightfully bitter on other grounds too. It had 54% of Pakistan’s population and was the biggest earner of foreign exchange. But West Pakistani generals, bureaucrats, and politicians such as Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, feared a democratic system would transfer power and national resources to the East.

Denied democracy and justice, the people of East Pakistan helplessly watched the cash flow from East to fund government, industry, schools and dams in the West. When the Bhola cyclone killed half a million people in 1970, President Yahya Khan and his fellow generals in Rawalpindi’s GHQ could not have cared less.

The decisive break came with the elections. The Awami League won a majority in Pakistan’s parliament. Bhutto and the generals would not accept the peoples’ verdict. The Bengalis finally rose up for independence. When the West Pakistan army was sent in, massacre followed massacre. Political activists, intellectuals, trade unionists, and students were slaughtered. Blood ran in street gutters, and millions fled across the border. After India intervened to support the East, the army surrendered. Bangladesh was born.

That Pakistan did not have the bomb in 1971 must surely be among the greatest of blessings. It is hard for me to see what Dr AQ Khan has in mind when he suggests that it could have saved Pakistan.

Would the good doctor have dropped the bomb on the raging pro-independence mobs in Dhaka? Or used it to incinerate Calcutta and Delhi, and have the favour duly returned to Lahore and Karachi? Or should we have threatened India with nuclear attack to keep it out of the war so that we could endlessly kill East Pakistanis? Even without the bomb, estimated civilian deaths numbered in the hundreds of thousands if not a million. How many more East Pakistanis would he have liked to see killed for keeping Pakistan together?

Some might argue that regardless of the death and destruction, using the bomb to keep Pakistan together would have been a good thing for the people of East Pakistan in the long term. A look at developmental statistics can help decide.

Bangladesh is ranked 96th out of 110 countries in a 2010 prosperity index compiled by an independent London-based think-tank, the Legatum Institute, using governance, education, health, security, personal freedom, and social capital as criteria. Pakistan is at the 109th position, just one notch above Zimbabwe. By this measure the people of the East have benefited from independence. The UN Human Development Index puts Bangladesh at 146/182 and Pakistan at 141/182, making Pakistan only marginally superior. This implies that Bengalis would have gained little, if anything, by remaining with West Pakistan.

But numerical data does not tell the whole story. Bangladesh is poorer but more hopeful and happier. Culture is thriving, education is improving, and efforts to control population growth are more fruitful than in Pakistan. It is not ravaged by suicide bombings, or by daily attacks upon its state institutions and military forces.

What can the bomb do for Pakistan now? Without it, will India swallow up Pakistan and undo partition? Such thought is pure fantasy. First, India has a rapidly growing economy and is struggling to control its population of 1.2 billion, of which almost half are desperately poor. It has no reason to want an additional 180 million people to feed and educate. Second, even if an aggressive and expansionist India wanted, asymmetrical warfare would make territorial conquest and occupation impossible. The difficulties faced by America in Iraq and Afghanistan, or of India in Kashmir, make this clear.

The bomb did deter India from launching punitive attacks at least thrice since the 1998 tests. There were angry demands within India for attacking the camps of Pakistan-based militant groups after Pakistan’s incursion in Kargil during 1999, the December 13 attack on the Indian parliament the same year (initially claimed by Jaish-e-Muhammad), and the Mumbai attack in 2008 by Lashkar-e-Taiba. However, this problem only exists because the bomb has been used to protect these militant groups. The nuclear umbrella explains why Pakistan is such a powerful magnet for all on this planet who wage war in the name of Islam: Arabs, Chechens, Uzbeks, Uighurs, and various westerners. It was, as we now know, the last lair of Osama bin Laden as well.

Pakistan is learning the same painful lesson as the Soviet Union and white-South Africa learned. The bomb offers no protection to a people. Rather, it has helped bring Pakistan to its current grievously troubled situation and offers no way out.

On this May 28, the day when Pakistan tested its nuclear weapons, let us resolve to eliminate this curse rather than celebrate. Instead of building more bombs, we need to protect ourselves by building a sustainable and active democracy, an economy for peace rather than war, a federation in which provincial grievances can be effectively resolved, elimination of the feudal order and creating a tolerant society that respects the rule of law.

Anniversary: What if Pakistan did not have the bomb? – The Express Tribune

he is the puppet of America and American funds them to defend American Policies

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

If we did not had the bomb we would have been occupied by the NWO plan
Based on conspiracy theorist we were suppose to be occupied by 2009-2010

We survived it due to Nuclear weapons possesion


BOMBA = FREEDOM

FRIENDSHIP with nuclear watch dog and UN = SLAVERY