What if Imran and TUQ belonged to Sindh or Baluchistan?

[SBD-3]

I was talking about the Marri making the same allegation of what was happening to Mama Qadeer & that allegation in turn being busted by Javed Chaudhry !

The difference between TuQ, IK & Mama Qadeer is that one is championing the cause of those who've either gone onto to Afghanistan to train to fight against the State or have been killed by the State in clandestine operations for raising arms against the State - Only an Idiot could compare a Politician's shenanegans with Terrorism !

Besides nothing happened to Mama Qadeer - if the so-called Establishment needed to do something to him......a few hundred miles is more than enough distance to find an opportunity to take him out in a manner that doesn't lay any blame on their footsteps !

And then like ever, you will always searching internet to find a picture of Baloch standing with National flag....

Marri jumped in to fight after 2006 Bugti fiasco. they were on the edge during 2004-06. I blame musharraf and his MI DG criminal behaviour of making a mess out of such a mole hill.

I am talking about Mari Petroleum,not murri.
Mari Petroleum Company Limited - Associated Companies

 

[pakman12]

So since police officers or the workers of the opposing party weren't found in a bory so Imran has the right to do a jail break type of stunt?

It was no jailbreak. IK asked the police to show him the warrants for arrest and since there weren't any they had to let them go. Simple to understand for most law abiding citizens who understand basic law and their rights. Impossible to comprehend for you Nooners sadly.

 

[Bratva]

And then like ever, you will always searching internet to find a picture of Baloch standing with National flag....


I am talking about Mari Petroleum,not murri.
Mari Petroleum Company Limited - Associated Companies

Sahib, Did marri invested a single dime on raising up the infrastructure of Sui Gas ? It was state who developed all the infrastructure, so royalties have to be divided in such a way where state would be favoured, nai ?

 

[Armstrong]

And then like ever, you will always searching internet to find a picture of Baloch standing with National flag....

Why would I need to when the hollowness of your argument is self-evident even without that ?

 

[SBD-3]

Sahib, Did marri invested a single dime on raising up the infrastructure of Sui Gas ? It was state who developed all the infrastructure, so royalties have to be divided in such a way where state would be favoured, nai ?

And then how did FF and its subsidary Mari Petrolium got the ownership, may I ask?

Why would I need to when the hollowness of your argument is self-evident even without that ?

most of the people here end up this way.

 

[Armstrong]

most of the people here end up this way.

Emoticons are indeed a good substitute for when arguments run out !

 

[Areesh]

It was no jailbreak. IK asked the police to show him the warrants for arrest and since there weren't any they had to let them go. Simple to understand for most law abiding citizens who understand basic law and their rights. Impossible to comprehend for you Nooners sadly.

Yeah beating up policemen was also example of law abiding. Attacking state TV station is also another example of following law. Inciting people towards violence is also following law. Asking people to send money by hundi is also following law.

And I am not a nooni. I just don't like hooliganism of IK and his followers.

 

[Armstrong]

Yeah beating up policemen was also example of law abiding. Attacking state TV station is also another example of following law. Inciting people towards violence is also following law. Asking people to send money by hundi is also following law.

And I am not a nooni. I just don't like hooliganism of IK and his followers.

Agreed - But how is not stopping them Provincialism ?

Or was trying to stop them in Model Town a sign of Anti-Punjabiism ?

 

[SBD-3]

Emoticons are indeed a good substitute for when arguments run out !

There is no argument if other person is not willing to accept the ground realities. Perhaps there will always be operations in Balochistan and they will keep rebelling against the state even without the so called "sardari jidojehad". Perhaps you should have tried visiting balochistan and areas like khusdar and see for your self the writ of the state a year ago.

 

[Areesh]

Areesh yar, by the same yard stick, even Mader e Millat was not spared. Those were military dictator times. Give one example of military dictator era where Punjabi (PML-N) Sindhi, Balochis, or Urdu speakers were ever spared from dictators wrath?

And you so conveniently forgot what Bhutto FSF did with political opponents. Did you forgot what bhutto did with balochis? and what a Punjabi dictator Zia did with balochis ?

You can't just hide behind calling it only the acts of military dictators. Bhutto was forced to take action against the baloch to be in the good books of the establishment. That didn't work well for him and in the end he was murdered.

Agreed - But how is not stopping them Provincialism ?

Because in the last 67 years this is the first example of state tolerating all this nonsense at this extreme level.

 

[Armstrong]

There is no argument if other person is not willing to accept the ground realities. Perhaps there will always be operations in Balochistan and they will keep rebelling against the state even without the so called "sardari jidojehad". Perhaps you should have tried visiting balochistan and areas like khusdar and see for your self the writ of the state a year ago.

Well the other person could be forgiven if the ground realities exists only in your head !

A part of my family is from Baluchistan !

 

[SBD-3]

Well the other person could be forgiven if the ground realities exists only in your head !

A part of my family is from Baluchistan !

I would ask you to make a trip to khusdar and see for youself how much of State of Pakistan exists over there. "Part of family from Balochistan" means mostly in Quetta where Punjabi settlers lived.

 

[Areesh]

The Establishment said the same thing during the Zardari Era that they support Democracy & everything & despite being provided ample opportunities including the Memogate Scandal they didn't tell the Elected Government to go home - Was it the Establishment's soft corner for the Sindhis or are we making a needless Provincial Issue out of something which has nothing to do with Provincialism !

So what is stopping establishment taking action against the followers of a Canadian citizen. We have seen pictures where PAT workers beating a police wala right in front of an army soldier and that fauji didn't do anything to stop them. Army soldiers asked PAT and PTI workers to leave the PTV building after they ransacked it instead of arresting them.

Still believe IK has no establishment support or at least some soft corner?

 

[Armstrong]

Because in the last 67 years this is the first example of state tolerating all this nonsense at this extreme level.

So the last time the State didn't tolerate this by a Punjabi agitating against a Sindhi during the previous Government - Long Marches & Dragging whom out on the Streets - the State must've been Anti-Punjabi !

And now when its a Punjabi vs Punjabi thing according to most of you guys even if IK is a Pukhtoon the State is supporting one Punjabi against the other as a sign of having a soft corner for Punjab despite the fact that the head of the so-called Establishment Sharif is from the same ethnicity as the PM & his little Brother !

And I suppose back when the PM & his little Brother were sent packing by the State that was again Anti-Punjabi leanings of the State !

The stupidity of this is astounding !

I would ask you to make a trip to khusdar and see for youself how much of State of Pakistan exists over there. "Part of family from Balochistan" means mostly in Quetta where Punjabi settlers lived.

How does the absence of the writ of the State equate with Mama Qadeer being tortured by the State despite Journalists who've interviewed him saying otherwise ?

The writ of the State didn't exist in the Tribal Areas either or in Interior Sindh or in some areas of Southern Punjab - SO ?

So what is stopping establishment taking action against the followers of a Canadian citizen. We have seen pictures where PAT workers beating a police wala right in front of an army soldier and that fauji didn't do anything to stop them. Army soldiers asked PAT and PTI workers to leave the PTV building after they ransacked it instead of arresting them.

Still believe IK has no establishment support or at least some soft corner?

Even if IK has the support of the Establishment - How does that equate to a Pro-Punjabi Establishment when the Opposing side is also Punjabi & not only Punjabi but Kashmiris of Punjabi just like the COAS ?

 

[Areesh]

Even if IK has the support of the Establishment - How does that equate to a Pro-Punjabi Establishment when the Opposing side is also Punjabi & not only Punjabi but Kashmiris of Punjabi just like the COAS ?

Because Nawaz isn't in the good books of the establishment. It isn't about punjabi vs punjabi. It is example of establishment using two punjabis against an elected punjabi or non punjbai governments. Happened a lot in last 67 years.