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What happened to the Syrian refugees who got stuck in Turkey?

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That's nice, the Syrians will never leave Turkey again, they are there to stay forever (just like the Syrians here in Germany).
For Erdogan this is great, because these people are potentially new voters who maybe will help him to win the next election. Probably in the next two years, many Syrians will get Turkish citizenship.

What is clear is that the Syrians are like colonizers, who with their huge numbers and high birth rates will radically change the demographics of Turkey, which will cause a lot of tensions in Turkish society, because the Syrians will at best integrate, but never assimilate. It won't be like in the past centuries where many different races were assimilated into the Turkish identity to the point where today even a blonde, blue-eyed Turk thinks his anscestors came from Central Asia.
In this day and age, there won't be any assimilation, especially when Syria (and other Arab countries) are right next door.
Even in 50 years, a Syrian will know that he is a descendant of Syrians and not of Central Asians.

And I think the Turks deserve it: When we consider that even after 60 years the Turkish immigrants (not refugees!) here in Germany are not willing to integrate (let alone assimilate), have low productivity, high crimes rates, and are very hostile-minded towards the Germans (scheiß Deutscher, scheiß Alman, scheiß Kartoffel, deutscher Hurensohn).....I think it is more than fair that the same happens to Turkey, even though the Turks still will be far better of with the Syrians than Germans are with the Turks.
 
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that is fuc*king funny. Turks did far more to rebuild Germany post-WW2 into the giant it is today. whereas persian co*ksuckers like you came much later to Germany and enjoyed everything they built.

Germany was rebuilt already in 1953, Turks came in beginning of the 1960's when Germany had a major industrial growth and needed more workers. But German politicians even openly admit on television that they didn't want any Turks, they only wanted workers from Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece, but the US forced Germany to take mainly Turks to keep Turkey stable for the Cold War against Soviets. In the 1970's Germans wanted to repatriot all the Turks and send them back to Turkey, but again the US said no.

So no, Turks didn't rebuilt anything. They had their part in the industrial growth of the 1960's, but that's irrelevant compared to the disgusting, asocial behavior and habits they showed in the following decades.

If you want me to, I can back up everything I said about Turkish immigrants with solid evidences from German sources, but it would be very, very embarrising.....

(And if you want me to, I can back up with evidences the fantastic contributions of Iranian immigrants in Germany.)

So again, I hope the Syrian refugees do exactly the same to Turkey as Turkish immigrants have done to the very tolerant, friendly and peaceful German population.
 
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hell no it wasnt. even German politicians recognise the role of the Turks in the rebuild of Germany.

The only politicians who claimed that more than 15 years ago were from the leftist Green Party, which is the most politically-correct pro-immigrant party, who dream about multi-culturism and whose leading politicians even openly say that they are not proud to be German.....but even they stoped claiming this nonsense, because the evidence against that are too strong.

I will not post all sources, because they would be considered "insulting" and would get deleted. So just a few mainstream sources:


And the Spiegel article ist still very politically-correct: It claims the Turks were low-class and the German government at first had no integration policy for the them, but there was also no integration policy for the low-class immigrants from Spain, Italy, Greece, etc.... and still all these other immigrant groups integrated very well into German society, you will not find a single German complaining about them, but just mention the word "Turk"......

And what did leading Germans say decades ago?


Anton Sabel, President of the Federal Employment Agency, said on September 26, 1960 that an agreement on recruiting Turkish workers was in no way necessary in terms of labor market policy, but he could not judge “how far the Federal Republic can close any such proposal by the Turkish government, since Turkey has applied for membership in the EEC and, as a NATO partner, occupies a not insignificant political position."

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At first, the federal government was reluctant to negotiate, as the great cultural difference to Turkey was viewed as problematic. At first it was not considered that the workers referred to as “guest workers” should stay in Germany permanently.

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This new wave of immigration also led to increasing xenophobia in the 1980s; Numerous media and politicians also took the view that Turkish immigration led to problems and that integration of the Turks was not possible in this number.


In 1982 liberal German chancellor Helmut Schmidt said: "I won't let any Turk cross our border anymore!"

Then his conservative successor Helmut Kohl said:


According to the portal, the minutes with the file number PREM 19/1036 said: “Chancellor Kohl said [...] that over the next four years it will be necessary to reduce the number of Turks by 50 percent - but he can not yet say this publicly ”. And further: "It is impossible for Germany to assimilate the Turks in their current number." At the conversation, therefore, only Kohl, his advisor Horst Teltschik, Margaret Thatcher and their private secretary A.J. Coles, the author of the document.

According to the documents, Kohl just wanted to get rid of the Turks in October 1982. "Germany has no problem with the Portuguese, the Italians, even the Southeast Asians, because these communities have integrated well," said Secretary Coles as quoting the Chancellor, who had been in office for just four weeks at the time. “But the Turks come from a very different culture. [...] Germany integrated 11 million Germans from Eastern European countries. But these are Europeans and therefore do not pose a problem. "


And the son of Ex-chancellor Kohl is married to a Turkish woman!!!

And in an article also from Spiegel from 1982 a politician from the center-left party SPD describes the situation like this:


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The most serious problems arose with the Turks. They form the largest permanent immigrant group. In contrast to the original guest worker situation, they are now completely geared towards permanent settlement. Their number has grown steadily to the current 1.5 million and continues to rise. This already corresponds to the population of 15 large cities with 100,000 inhabitants each.

While Turks make up only a third of the total number of foreigners, more than half of the foreign children under 6 years of age are Turkish. The further growth of the Turkish ethnic group in the Federal Republic is firmly programmed.

Turkish family fathers have their families join them. Singles start one. Under the heading of family reunification, the young girl who married a Turk living in Germany on a vacation trip to his home country also moves to Germany. The reverse case also occurs. Given the numerical strength of the younger cohorts, this alone sets in motion a considerable further wave of immigration. Most of all, these are young women who will soon bear children.

This relocation of the Turkish population growth to the Federal Republic is, with all due respect, nonsense that is dangerous to the public. In most cases there is little prospect that the well-intentioned integration efforts of the Federal Republic will ever lead to these Turks becoming Germans. Rather, it must be expected that the chances of integration will continue to decrease with the increasing mass of ever larger numbers of the Turkish population. The more Turks live here, the less chance there is of real "naturalization".

The already clearly recognizable concentration in the Turkish living areas will continue. There, the Turkish families find a social environment that does not force them to make any particular efforts to integrate, and, on the contrary, probably discourages and inhibits them in this regard.

Private contacts with German families only exist in rare cases. Turkish or Kurdish is still spoken in Turkish families, even if some of them can speak German with us. The children are raised in Turkish, which means Islamic.

The situation of a large number of the more than 500,000 Turkish women in the Federal Republic is tragic and often hopeless. Most of them only speak Turkish or Kurdish. Very many cannot even read and write their own language. They are lost in a world inaccessible to them, bound by the traditions and limitations of local custom. Often all contacts are forbidden.

Wherever they slowly emancipate themselves and become independent, conflicts arise that not only cause marriages but also life's destinies to fail. The way out into integration, the chance to become a German citizen of Turkish nationality, is also barred for them.

Thus a strong ethnic minority, on the whole not very capable of assimilation, is growing up. The usual integration policy is already a farce in many Turkish districts. In many cases, a separate school system for the Turkish children will be the only appropriate solution, not least in the interest of the German children and teachers, who are often heavily burdened by the current common ground.

Nevertheless, the goal of integration policy must not be abandoned. For the millions who cannot be persuaded to return to their country of origin with money and good words, the perspective of full integration, even if it may extend beyond the framework of a generation, is the only appropriate one. But all of this becomes irrelevant and nonsensical if the increase in numbers and the inevitable spatial concentration continue as before.

The danger that all integration efforts will become completely illusory and that a kind of Turkish-Islamic sub-proletariat will develop at the same time is obvious. How strong the political polarization has already progressed and how uninhibitedly violent radical disputes develop in public becomes clearer from year to year.

It is good that, under the pressure of developments, an intense public discussion of the problems associated with Turkish immigration now seems to be getting underway. It must lead to a policy that sharply restricts further influx, including family members, and combines the prohibitions with strong material incentives for people to return home.

At the same time, there is also a need for strictly restrictive immigration legislation vis-à-vis members of other peoples. We should learn from the Turkish problem how important it is to take preventive action.

Turkey expects a population increase of 24 million people in the next 20 years alone. It cannot be accepted that a substantial part of it is taken up in the Federal Republic. Turkey has to solve its population and social problems in its own country. The Federal Republic of Germany has already tried to help it in the past with great material expenditure. But population export is not a solution that we can get involved with.

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And this all was said decades ago! Back then, the ridiculous claim of "Turks rebuilt Germany" didn't exist, because Germany was already rebuilt when the first Turks came 1961. At first, the Turks contributed to Germanys economic growth, yes, but that is something very different than "rebuilding". And the Germans didn't even want the Turks, they were forced to take them in.

And the Turkish contribution to Germanys economy half a century ago pales to the gigantic problems Turks caused to the German society since then to this very day!

And that's way I say: From the bottom of my heart I hope Syrians will do to Turkish society exactly the same as Turks have done to the German society!
 
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check the date cocksu*ker


I have given you tons of evidences, it is irrelevant what a politically-correct answer a German gives on Turkeys state-sponsored television.
The leading German politicians, the German chancellors who ruled Germany, described very clearly what they thought about the Turkish immigrants: they just wanted to send them back to Turkey as quick as possible.

and that contribution then and now was and is a sh*t tonne more than majoos like you.

I don't know why you always bring Iranians into this discussion about Turks and Syrians, but OK:

According to different sources, there are somewhere up to 4 million people of Turkish descent living Germany, and there up to 230.000 people of Iranian descent living in Germany, that means Iranian immigrants make up 6% of Turkish immigrants.
And what's the situation of Iranians:


The population of Iranian descent in Germany has a higher level of education, which, according to studies, can be attributed to the social structure and a certain learning culture. According to the Berlin Institute for Population and Development, over 50 percent of immigrants of Iranian origin have a bachelor's degree or higher academic degree, compared to a figure of 20 percent in the total population of Germany. More than one in four Iranians is employed in a trusted profession, for example as a doctor, bank employee, educator, engineer or in the judiciary.

So especially compared to their share of the population, it is clear who contributes way more to the German economy. Case closed.
 
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So back to the topic:

I hope Syrians will do exactly the same to Turkey as Turks have done to Germany.

I hope will Syrians will also form Ghettos, have no interest in education, be primitive, behave exactly as asocial while running down the streets, copying the street-hiphop culture of Black Americans (while at the same being low-key racist towards Blacks), committing a lot of crimes, contributing to the Turkish economy only in the fruit & vegetables market,....

Everytime when the Turkish national soccer team has a match, I hope the Syrians will pray for the defeat of Turkey, as Turks here always hope for the defeat of Germany.

I hope Syrians will also always bully Turks, gang up on them, hitting them, punching them, in school, on the streets, everywhere....

And I hope Syrians will be also ungrateful and very hateful towards Turks, calling them "You fvcking Turk" or "You Turkish son of a whore".....just as Turks here in Germany always call the German guys "You fvcking German" or "You German son of a whore"


Oh yes, inshallah will the Turkish society endure the same enrichment that Germans have to endure since many decades!!!
 
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These developments are exactly what Turkey deserves, especially considering the mysery that Turks brought upon the peace-loving Germans for decades!
 
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What is clear is that the Syrians are like colonizers, who with their huge numbers and high birth rates will radically change the demographics of Turkey, which will cause a lot of tensions in Turkish society, because the Syrians will at best integrate, but never assimilate. It won't be like in the past centuries where many different races were assimilated into the Turkish identity to the point where today even a blonde, blue-eyed Turk thinks his anscestors came from Central Asia.
That's the same thing Greeks are afraid of as well.
 
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These developments are exactly what Turkey deserves, especially considering the mysery that Turks brought upon the peace-loving Germans for decades!
There's a new wave of immigrants coming to Germany, and they will be a lot more friendlier. they are all good Syrians, Afghans and other. We can do a trade. Bring back all these Turks and you can have the better quality immigrants. :lol:
 
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Yeah Turk immigrants are bad because they dont start eating pork like iranians do. Comparing syrian Turk to german turk relations is plain stupid. Well maybe the OP is right, only iranian are quick to change color as quickly integrate and assimilate, something he seems to be proud of lolz.
 
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Yeah Turk immigrants are bad because they dont start eating pork like iranians do. Comparing syrian Turk to german turk relations is plain stupid. Well maybe the OP is right, only iranian are quick to change color as quickly integrate and assimilate, something he seems to be proud of lolz.
OP is Iranian with German and British Flag. :lol:
 
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There's a new wave of immigrants coming to Germany, and they will be a lot more friendlier. they are all good Syrians, Afghans and other. We can do a trade. Bring back all these Turks and you can have the better quality immigrants. :lol:
Can you just fly them to Germany? Don't send them with boats here again,just put them on military airplanes to give them to Merkel. Then give half of them to the British.
 
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Can you just fly them to Germany? Don't send them with boats here again,just put them on military airplanes to give them to Merkel. Then give half of them to the British.
If a lot of Syrians believe Turkey is ISIS.. They will avoid Turkey and move straight to Greece :lol:
 
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Wonderful, just wonderful!

Now Turks get a small taste of what their kin have done to Germany for such a long time :enjoy:
 
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