What halts India & Afghanistan from making peace with Pakistan?

[ziaulislam]

3 of the 4 big neighbouring countries of Pakistan don't have friendly relationship with her, but guess what, its not Pakistan's fault. Everyone is just jealous of Pakistan's huge success.

same can be said about india 2 of its major neighbors are not friendly..while has been having unstable relationships with nepal and srilanka with frequent firing even at Bangladesh and Myanmar
we on the other hand might have some odds with Afghanistan but defiantly no chance of war and are very much friendly with iran and china..

 

[sbh02]

More of my participation on this forum is talking with Indians than with Pakistanis.

That's because of the Indian obsession with Pakistan, there are more Indians on this forum than Pakistanis.

What this forum gives me that Indian forums would not is the opportunity to make myself heard longer without getting banned.

Ok, so if you want to be part of this forum, then the living conditions of Indian Muslims is fair game.

 

[Ultima Thule]

So typical.

If you're not with us, you must be Hindu.

Which means India has an additional 200 million Hindus who only call themselves Muslim ....

So why you against the freedom of Kashmir, you have the double standard for the Muslim in India you Hindu

 

[Manidabest]

What halts India & Afghanistan from making peace with Pakistan?
Global Village Space |

Dr. Zafar Nawaz Jaspal |

Pakistan’s bilateral relations with its eastern and western neighbors severely deteriorated during the last two years. Though Islamabad did its best to engage constructively both New Delhi and Kabul, yet failed due to Premier Modi’s domestic politics (state elections) priorities and President Ghani’s internal security challenges.

Instead of addressing the real cause of Kashmiri uprising, the Modi government has continuously been blaming Pakistan.

Indian Prime Minister Modi used anti-Pakistan catchphrases for mustering the support of radicalized Hindus during the state elections in India. Similarly, blaming Pakistan is the famous tactic of the Unity Government in Kabul to conceal its failure of establishing its writ in eastern and southern Afghanistan. Despite the baseless allegations, the Pakistani ruling elite continues its efforts to engage both the neighbors constructively for regional peace and prosperity.

Jindal’s trip to Pakistan: An effort to restore dialogue?
The recent Murree yatra of the Indian business tycoon Sajjan Jindal’s may be an attempt to break the stalemate between India and Pakistan. Many analysts opine that it was not a business trip of Mr. Jindal. It was an attempt by India and Pakistan to restart the stalled dialogue. Perhaps, the dialogue is the only option for both the belligerents to decrease the tension at the border. Importantly, the restart of dialogue automatically quashes Premier Modi’s policy to ‘isolate Pakistan’.

Read more: Jindal’s visit: Modi’s support package to Nawaz?

Despite the probable positive aspect of the visit, it has unleashed a pessimistic debate in the country. The opposition parties questioned the timing and tried to establish the visit was a mere business trip. The media discourse and conspiracy theorists seem successful in heightening distrust in the domestic politics of the country.

Indian domestic politics
The resumption of a dialogue between New Delhi and Islamabad would not be acceptable to the preachers and followers of Hindutva.

The biggest problem while dealing with New Delhi is the prevalent chauvinistic domestic Indian political atmosphere. Premier Modi, during the recent state elections campaign, used warmongering as a tactic for mustering the support of radicalized hawkish Hindu voters.

The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) secured a majority in the important state elections and constituted its governments. The campaign, however, amplified anti-Pakistan feelings in the Indian society. The resumption of a dialogue between New Delhi and Islamabad would not be acceptable to the preachers and followers of Hindutva.

Since one year, the innocent Kashmiris have been suffering from the brutality of the Indian armed forces. Despite the worst type of state terrorism, the Indian civilian and military law enforcement agencies have failed to restore the writ of the state in the Indian Occupied Kashmir.

Read more: Modi wins state elections on Pakistan bashing: will it stop now?

The blame-game
The Indian Army occasionally charges Pakistan Army for the mutilation of the dead Indian soldier’s bodies for maligning the latter.

Instead of addressing the real cause of Kashmiri uprising, the Modi government has continuously been blaming Pakistan. Recently, the Indian Army alleged Pakistani border forces for the violation of Line of Control and mutilation of the bodies of its two soldiers.

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What halts India & Afghanistan from making peace with Pakistan?

india: indians dream and vision is to take over Pakistan and label it part of india and in that way their dream will come true of akhand bharat. now Pakistan wudnt like to b part of india soo the army is thorn for india and indians has to take it by force soo they always keep the pressure on Pakistan and they think that one day Pakistan will come under their pressure which is highly unlikely....

Afghanistan : a war ravaged country a country whoes economy runs on war ... they live in past with myths ( a myth nobody conquered afghanistan) and the fact is Iranians, Greeks, Arabs, Turks,Mongols and now Americans have taken over their country and ruling them ...soo anti Pakistan is imbeded in current leader of afghanistan due to their non pashtun background & also they r sitting in the lap of india and US

 

[Max]

Regarding Afghanistan, the Afghans think the same about you so it doesn't matter what you feel about them. Its has a big enough boundary with you and they are hostile with you Period.

having big enough boundary dont make you state, control on your boundaries make you state. The country was fiefdom of warlord and is suffering from civil war since last 40 years and 50% of its territory is still either under rebel control or contested despite help from NATO only a butthurt bharti with -IQ can compare it with Pakistan.

Iran has in the past created trouble for you in Baluchistan, even shelled and fired at Pakistani locations. You don't have single military base because you simply cannot afford it right now. You have to fight the Taliban's, Indians and now ANA.
Further India has a military base at Tajikistan, though you don't have a direct border with them, but Pakistan is all surrounded dude.

lol once in a while 2, 3 mortar fire in our territory does not make us enemy, Their President every few month issue statement that Pakistan's security is equal to Iran. every few month their foreign minister or important official land in Pakistan.. as far as affordance in concern, well its not our concern, USA, GCC will open their treasury if we turn hostile towards Iranians, we can open as much bases as we want along with multiple proxies. its not difficult, but our establishment is playing smart here.

.As for TTP aka ANA attacking us as i said its not a country, its fiefdom of warlords , i am not sure how long these American funded trud will last, soviet left President Najeeb with 1000 times advance airforce + military but it didnt last 3 years.. bharati are already choked in our east, you cant make proxies in east, you cant invade east(failed in 2002 and 2008), They only one you can rely to harm Pakistan is might ANA aka TTP in west but it seems you are living in cave, you dont know that your proxies have already been defeated and destroyed and are hiding in Afghan cave and cursing both Hindus and their slaves..

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/database/casualties.htm

And regarding the satellite states, one of them has almost as big as a economy as yours and growing much faster than you, and we all know how much our neighbours hate us, when they cancelled the SAARC meeting in India to show support to Pakistan..... ooops.

does not matter if they have economy bigger then Japan, they are still satellite state who hate your country, Saarc meeting was canceled by your puppets (the reason behind hating bharat). let me tell you 65 out of 70 years Pakistan was ahead on you on per capita..

 

[Max]

You use.

they are useless.

 

[adil_minhas]

they are useless.

You still try.

And some of us get used.

For revenge or money.

 

[Max]

You still try.

And some of us get used.

For revenge or money.

No we dont bcoz they are useless. Period

dont confuse our Kashmiris with you, you aint worth their shit.

 

[adil_minhas]

No we dont bcoz they are useless. Period

dont confuse our Kashmiris with you, you aint worth their shit.

I don't really need to know what you do with your Kashmiris shit.

But I think I'll pass on your weird fetish.

 

[Ultima Thule]

I think you did not quite understand the full weight of my previous post.

If you do not care about us, do you honestly think we care about Kashmiri separatists and Pakistani proxies.

Get real. What our army is doing there is highly restrained.

They would not be so lucky were an Indian Muslim battalion deployed there instead.

Yakeen mano ....

What Pakistan proxy you have no prove kashmiris is nor separatist but a freedom fighters
And as for IA I would say
What should we do for India, just l!ck the boot of IA or Indian government, that not possible, that shows your Hindu mentality you fake Indian Muslim

 

[adil_minhas]

What Pakistan proxy you have no prove kashmiris is nor separatist but a freedom fighters
And as for IA I would say
What should we do for India, just l!ck the boot of IA or Indian government, that not possible, that shows your Hindu mentality you take Indian Muslim

We really do not care too much about where you put your tongues brother.

 

[Max]

I don't really need to know what you do with your Kashmiris shit.

Their useless shit is worth more then your kind, thats what i meant..

 

[adil_minhas]

Their useless shit is worth more then your kind, thats what i meant..

That you were trying to find a use for their shit is what concerns me minorly.

 

[saiyan0321]

Simple reason,

With India, it's the occupation of IoK.

With Afghanistan, it's pointless nationalism and a fake, one sided border dispute (only Afghanistan doesn't recognize the border with Pakistan, literally everyone else does, including India.)

Basically this which means that with India it is far more easier to make peace. Infact since 1947 we have made considerable progress with India at some points and it looked almost like it was finally over however we have never made such a progress with Afghanistan. In fact Afghanistan exists only with a single purpose to destroy pakistan. That is the level of hatred they have. They have been burning in hatred ever since Pakistan was formed and they have tried everything to destroy Pakistan and in that process have destroyed the very fabric of their society and for the last 40 years Afghanistan has been broken with always under minimum two forms of govt. The Taliban in 1998 were the only ones that came close to uniting Afghanistan under a single banner with controlling 90%.

I said it before and I will say it again. We may one day have peace with India but we will never have peace with Afghanistan. They'd find their legitimacy in hating us. Infact war with Afghanistan is also inevitable bcz the day Afghanistan feels it can inflict any loss on us is the day they will attack.

 

[Max]

That you were trying to find a use for their shit is what concerns me minorly.

shit can be used for power generation, but you? bloody useless.