What does Iran gain from letting RAW use its territory?

[Aspen]

I keep hearing people say that Iran either knowingly or unknowingly let RAW use its territory for attacks like the Turbat IED blast where the remote trigger was found across the border in Iran. I agree that this is smoking gun evidence that Iran is hosting RAW elements either implicitly or covertly.

But what nobody seems to want to talk about is why? What does Iran gain from allowing RAW elements near Pakistan border? What is their motive for this? How does Iran benefit?

Does Iran even know where these RAW elements are? Or did RAW sneak in without Iran's knowledge?

 

[Hiraa]

Iran apologist living in Pakistan incoming in 3...2....1

 

[Ivan]

I keep hearing people say that Iran either knowingly or unknowingly let RAW use its territory for attacks like the Turbat IED blast where the remote trigger was found across the border in Iran. I agree that this is smoking gun evidence that Iran is hosting RAW elements either implicitly or covertly.

But what nobody seems to want to talk about is why? What does Iran gain from allowing RAW elements near Pakistan border? What is their motive for this? How does Iran benefit?

Does Iran even know where these RAW elements are? Or did RAW sneak in without Iran's knowledge?

I think I had read somewhere or maybe watched a video or something or possibly heard someone`s view that Iran, India and Afghanistan have struck a deal to benefit each other by stabbing Pakistan to slow death and then taking their pieces of pie: KPK to be given to Afghanistan, Balochistan to be made part of Iran and Sindh, Punjab plus the GB and AJK to be included in India.

I don`t think Iran`s intelligence is weak, as I have read a little about Savak which is though no more there. Then take the example of how Mossad was not letting Iran make its own nuclear weapons and delayed it for decades but at the end Iran still succeeded by deceiving Mossad. And lastly, take the example of General Qasim Soleimani. These all speak of the competency of Iran`s intelligence.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Please keep this discussion civil, rational and logical.

Abuse by either side is only going to get the thread locked.

No derogatory generalizations about the people of either nation (or the GCC) or any religious sects.

The assumption is going to be that ‘Iran = Iranian Leadership/Iranian Regime’ and not the Iranian people.

 

[313ghazi]

Those who sit still go backwards. Pakistan suffers from this. We think just because something is how it is, it will remain like that. The Shah was deposed 40+ years ago. Since then Iran has been run by Mullahs with expansionist policies.

Weak neighbours = opportunities to influence.

Iran has the history, attitude and arrogance of an empire. Empires are built through sheer aggression and maintained by doing everything possible to weaken your competition.

The Persians fought the Ottomans for centuries. They wanted to slow down the Ottomans by waging campaigns against them. America maintains its empire today by weakening anyone non compliant to thier empire.

Iran allows terrorism in Pakistan to stop prosperity in Balochistan, a weak Pakistan is full of unemployed fools who can serve as foot soldiers in the Ayatollahs campaigns. A weak Pakistan cannot impose itself in Afghanistan. Meanwhile Iran practically runs Herat.

When the Turkic and Arab invaders took these lands, they did it out of aggressive expansionist ideas. When the Mughals lost them it was because they'd got used to sitting still.

There are no friends, no permanent allies. Jinnah created Pakistan and the rest of us have sat still gormlessly admiring his work.

We need to be aggressive proactive in building this nation and doing the dirty work required for it to prosper.

The Ottoman empire is popular on this forum, it wasn't built out of dreams of religious brotherhood. It was built and maintained by a huge military machine.

 

[Waterboy]

We need to be aggressive proactive in building this nation and doing the dirty work required for it to prosper.

The aggressive behaviour was to side with SA and GCC. This move would have allowed us to reap economic and military benefits, but mullah sympathisers don't have the guts to do this. It's obvious that Irani regime exploits our shia population to achieve politcal objectives and because of this we take emotional decision by bringing in sectarianism. At the end of the day you have to choose the lesser evil. Put pakistan first and take rational and logical decisions. Don't put 80% of your population at risk just to please the other 20%.

 

[ziaulislam]

I keep hearing people say that Iran either knowingly or unknowingly let RAW use its territory for attacks like the Turbat IED blast where the remote trigger was found across the border in Iran. I agree that this is smoking gun evidence that Iran is hosting RAW elements either implicitly or covertly.

But what nobody seems to want to talk about is why? What does Iran gain from allowing RAW elements near Pakistan border? What is their motive for this? How does Iran benefit?

Does Iran even know where these RAW elements are? Or did RAW sneak in without Iran's knowledge?

Iran main purpose is to export its revolution thus every sunni country is it enemy ..
I am sorry but this is the reality and no matter how we put it its wont change..

It has till now check mated three sunni countries ..syria, yemen and lebanon all of which have same amount of minority (except lebanon) as pakistan ..
It hopes one day it can do that too pakistan ..even if it means first breaking it apart ...

Second is india..
India is major oil and diplomatic patner of iran..iran simply cant survive without india..it will die of hunger if india pullsout

 

[khansaheeb]

I keep hearing people say that Iran either knowingly or unknowingly let RAW use its territory for attacks like the Turbat IED blast where the remote trigger was found across the border in Iran. I agree that this is smoking gun evidence that Iran is hosting RAW elements either implicitly or covertly.

But what nobody seems to want to talk about is why? What does Iran gain from allowing RAW elements near Pakistan border? What is their motive for this? How does Iran benefit?

Does Iran even know where these RAW elements are? Or did RAW sneak in without Iran's knowledge?

Because this is all Israeli BS, that's why.

 

[pakpride00090]

The biggest problem is associating everything with Islam. Oh we can't kill other muslims , oh we can't kill members of shia faith , oh we can't be rude to fellow muslims...

As along as these justifications are there , nothing will happen.

 

[Itachi]

I don`t think Iran`s intelligence is weak, as I have read a little about Savak which is though no more there.

SAVAK, Sāzemān-e Ettelā'āt va Amniyat-e Keshvar was replaced by SAVAMA, after 1979 Iranian revolution. It became VEVAK, Vezarat-e Ettela'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar, also known as MOIS. It is now called VAJA. Don't know what the acronyms stand for.

Logo of VAJA:

 

[MastanKhan]

The biggest problem is associating everything with Islam. Oh we can't kill other muslims , oh we can't kill members of shia faith , oh we can't be rude to fellow muslims...

As along as these justifications are there , nothing will happen.

Hi,

The reason pakistanis say that is because they don't have their own identity---.

Muslims have killed miliions and millions of muslims over the years just the christians have killed christians---.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Pakistan is blessed with rats in the east, snakes in the south-western borders, and thankless dogs in the western borders.

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

Message should be sent to Iran , We will not tolerate it further .

 

[JohnWick]

Hi,

The reason pakistanis say that is because they don't have their own identity---.

Muslims have killed miliions and millions of muslims over the years just the christians have killed christians---.

If that the case then Hitler should be a hero instead of Stalin....

 

[Vapnope]

Iran plays the double game because we are "friends" with KSA. The shear amount of incompetence on part of Pakistani state has made this problem severe as well. While we lost thousands in this war, Pakistan is still not ready to change its foreign policy. Either we tell KSA and Iran to sort out their shit and keep us out of it, or we pick a side and declare the other side an enemy and done with it.