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The Turkic peoples are a collection of ethnic groups that live in northern, eastern, central and western Asia, northwestern China and parts of eastern Europe. They speak languages belonging to the Turkic language family. They share, to varying degrees, certain cultural traits and historical backgrounds. The term Turkic represents a broad ethno-linguistic group of peoples including existing societies such as the Turkish people,Magyars(Hungarians),Szekelys, Azerbaijanis, Chuvashes, Kazakhs, Tatars, Kyrgyz, Turkmens, Uyghurs, Uzbeks, Bashkirs, Qashqai, Gagauz, Yakuts, Crimean Karaites, Krymchaks, Karakalpaks, Karachays, Balkars, Nogais and as well as past civilizations such as the Göktürks, Kumans, Kipchaks, Avars, Bulgars, Turgeshes, Khazars, Seljuk Turks, Ottoman Turks, Mamluks, Timurids, Khiljis and possibly Huns

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MertKaan said:
The Turkic peoples are a collection of ethnic groups that live in northern, eastern, central and western Asia, northwestern China and parts of eastern Europe. They speak languages belonging to the Turkic language family. They share, to varying degrees, certain cultural traits and historical backgrounds. The term Turkic represents a broad ethno-linguistic group of peoples including existing societies such as the Turkish people,Magyars(Hungarians),Szekelys, Azerbaijanis, Chuvashes, Kazakhs, Tatars, Kyrgyz, Turkmens, Uyghurs, Uzbeks, Bashkirs, Qashqai, Gagauz, Yakuts, Crimean Karaites, Krymchaks, Karakalpaks, Karachays, Balkars, Nogais and as well as past civilizations such as the Göktürks, Kumans, Kipchaks, Avars, Bulgars, Turgeshes, Khazars, Seljuk Turks, Ottoman Turks, Mamluks, Timurids, Khiljis and possibly Huns

Some turkic people



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The conversion of Turkic people to Islam was a major boost to Muslims. They are brave people and for many centuries were used as mercenaries by Arab rulers to fight Mongols.

With due respect you have included video of Alani or Alans. Alani are not Turkic people. They are a Iranic people they are known as Ossi or Ossestians.
 
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Are Turkish people really related to central asian turks? or are they more local Anatolian?
 
Jaanbaz said:
The conversion of Turkic people to Islam was a major boost to Muslims. They are brave people and for many centuries were used as mercenaries by Arab rulers to fight Mongols.

With due respect you have included video of Alani or Alans. Alani are not Turkic people. They are a Iranic people they are known as Ossi or Ossestians.
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- Brits moved to Australia, and adopted the name "Aborigines", and started to call the aborigines "Brits", and started to call each other "Aborigine", and started to be called by the name "Aborigine" by their former aborigine neighbors. Wow!! And the aborigine neighbors started to call themselves and each other "Brit".
- Dutch moved to America, and adopted the name "Indians", and started to call the Indians "Dutch", and started to call each other "Indians", and started to be called by the name "Indian" by their former Indian neighbors. Wow!! And the Indian neighbors started to call themselves and each other "Dutch".
- Germans moved to Africa, and adopted the name "Zulu", and started to call the Зулу "Germans", and started to call each other "Zulu", and started to be called by the name "Zulu" by their former Zulu neighbors. Wow!! And the Zulu neighbors started to call themselves and each other "Germans".
-Balkarians and Karachais moved to Caucasus, and adopted the name "Alans and Ases", and started to call the Alans and Ases "Ossetians", and started to call themselves and each other "Alans and Ases", and started to be called by the name "Alans and Ases" by their neighbors. Wow!! And Alans and Ases started to call each other "Ossetian".
- Chinese moved to Malaysia, and adopted the name "Malaysians", and started to call the aborigines "Chinese", and started to call each other "Malaysian", and started to be called by the name "Malaysian" by their former Malaysian neighbors. Wow!! And the Malaysians started to call themselves and each other "Chinese"
- Indians moved to Ceilon, and adopted the name "Tamils", and started to call the Tamils "Indians", and started to call each other "Tamils", and started to be called by the name "Tamils" by their former Tamil neighbors. Wow!! And the Tamil neighbors started to call themselves and each other "Indian".

We can go on. We can take a World Atlas, and compose an example for every tribe listed there. Japanese and Russians moved to Sakhalin and adopted the name "Ainu", while Ainu adopted the names "Japanese" and "Russians" respectively. Wow!!
- Italians moved to Ethiopia, became Ethiopians, and Ethiopians became Italians. Romans moved to Judea, and became Jews, and Jews became Romans. Wow!! Russians moved to Tataria and adopted the name "Tatar", while Tatars adopted the name "Russian". Wow!! French moved to Canada, and became Eskimo, and Eskimo became French. Wow!! You move to a stable, and become a horse, and the horse becomes your older you. Wow!!

OK, these are just fake headlines, but in Scytho-Iranian hypothesis the Balkar-Karachai scenario is real and a major link in the chain of arguments. Balkar-Karachais do call themselves Alans and Ases, all their neighbors, including Ossetes, call them Alans and Ases, and nobody calls Ossetes Alans and Ases, including the Ossetes themselves. Wow!! This unreal scenario is implicitly or explicitly accepted by all "mainstream" and august scholars. Anybody else is looking for a Brookline bridge to buy

The graph illustrates the lexical structure of the Ossetian language verbally described on page 103 of the book, but graphically profoundly missing from the Abaev's book.
For a linguist Abaev to sample, say, 10 or 20 % of the lexicon and count the percentage of lexicon belonging to the professed Iranian, and the other Arabic, Turkic, Kartvellian, Adyg, and Nakh words was a matter of 2-3 days, out of his 40 years-long philological life. That he avoided doing it by all means is screaming about his professional candor.

Amazingly, it is universally accepted in the Indo-European scientific world that the Ossetian language, with 80% non Indo-European lexicon, 100% non Indo-European grammar and 100% non Indo-European morphology, is unquestionably an Indo-European language.

And so the Scythians, and later their linguistic kins Sarmatians, and specifically one of the Sarmatian tribes, the Alans, spoke an Iranian language akin to the uniquely opposed to the all Indo-European languages Ossetian language, which itself consists of 80% of non Indo-European lexicon. A lovely deduction, isn't it?

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/24Alans/WhoAreAlansEn.htm

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/20Roots/ZakievGenesis/ZakievGenesis166-185En.htm

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/27_Scythians/Contents_Scythians_En.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karachay-Balkar_language
 
Skallagrim said:
@MertKaan, are Magyars really a turkic people? What about Cherkessians?
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In 10th c. Magyars moved to Pannonia 50/50 with Bulgarian Kubars, and found land full with Türkic Huns, Avars, Bulgars, Seklers, plus Slavs, plus Germanics, plus plus plus. Plus later additions of Kumans, Kipchaks, Germans, Jews, etc.

The word is thought to be derived from the Bulgaro-Turkic Onogur, possibly because the Magyars were neighbours (or confederates) of the Empire of the Onogurs in the 6th century, whose leading tribal union was called the "Onogurs" (meaning "ten tribes" in Old Turkic).The H- in many languages (Hungarians, Hongrois, Hungarus etc.) is a later addition. It was taken over from the word "Huns"(turkish tribe), which was a similar semi-nomadic tribe living some 400 years earlier in present-day Hungary and having a similar way of life (or according to the older theories the people from which the Magyars arose). In ancient times, through the Middle Ages, and even today, the identification of Hungarians with the Huns has often occurred in history and literature, however this identification began to be disputed around the late 19th century, and is still a source of major controversy among scholars who insist that there could be no direct connection between the two.The origin of the Hungarians is partly disputed. The most widely accepted Finno-Ugric theory from the late 19th century is based primarily on linguistic and ethnographical arguments, while it is criticised by some as relying too much on linguistics. There are also other theories stating that the Magyars are descendants of Scythians, Huns, Turks, Avars,..


"Magyars belong to the old turkish tribes(huns),which were settled in south ural(Altai),also in north Blacksea area (magyar:Etelköz,turkish:Atelközü)".
magyars have the same origin like the hun tribes and were very similar to the turkish"

"And today many words and names are very similar in both languages
(Hungarian:Zsebemben sok kicsi Alma van)
(Turkish:Cebimden csok külcsü Elma var)
That means i have many apples in my pocket

Cherkessians were not Turkic
 
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Tikolo said:
Are Turkish people really related to central asian turks? or are they more local Anatolian?
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Most of Turks of Turkey are just people who were converted to Islam. Most of their ancestors were probably Armenians and Greeks.
 
I found most Turks in Istanbul very evry similar to Serbs/Bulgarians and other Slavs.

But other Turkic people are way more Central asian with more mongloid than the slavic ones.
 
Magyars are a mix of Turkic and Finno-Ugric people, predominantly Finno-Ugric though, similar to us they both culturally and racially mixed with neighbourhood and retained their language and identity.

Circassians are not Turkic, but they significiantly influenced from neighbouring Turkic people.

About Turks, culture and genetics are geographical, not ethnic, put anybody you like in place of Turks in Anatolia everybody would end up same, thats why culture and genetics alone are not enough to explain roots of a nation.

First of all there are countless immigrants in Turkey, Caucasians, Balkanians(like the ones you saw in Istanbul), local Turkish population in Anatolia has mixed features of Anatolian/Middle Eastern/Central Asian, the development of the culture followed a different way then central Asians(geographical as I said), influences and offerings of the land was different but there are still cultural features similar to central Asians.
 
When and how Turks embarrassed Islam ? What was their religion before Islam? Were there any forced conversion to Islam or they all accepted Islam by their own will because Islam or Islamic caliphate was very much civilised and developed at that time
 
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I think Turkic people is a pretty cool guy, he kills terrorists and doesn't afraid of anything
 

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