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what contribution Japan done to world peace?

But there is always sides in this world. When you take one side, you are automatically against the other side.
That is grossly simplistic. But no surprise there.

If China take her own interests ahead of others, that mean China is on China's side, correct ? So that does mean China is automatically against everyone else ?

But then since the end of WW II, what have China done to convince, not just Japan, but the rest of Asia that China have no ambitions against them ?

From Third World to First: The Singapore Story - 1965-2000: Lee Kuan Yew: 9780060197766: Amazon.com: Books
Chapter 37

Deng Xiaoping's China

The Malaysians must be suspicious of Deng. There were underlying suspicions and animosity between Malay Muslims and Chinese in Malaysia, and between Indonesians and their ethnic Chinese. Because China was exporting revolution to Southeast Asia, my Asean neighbors wanted Singapore to rally with them, not against the Soviet Union, but against China.

Asean governments regarded radio broadcasts from China appealing directly to their ethnic Chinese as dangerous subversion. Deng listented silently. He had never seen it this light: China, a big foreign power, going over the governments of the region to subvert their citizens. I said it was most unlikely that Asean countries would respond positively to his proposal for a united front against the Soviet Union and Vietnam and suggested that we discuss on how to resolve this problem. Then I paused.

Deng's expression and body language registered consternation. He knew that I had spoken the truth. Abruptly, he asked, "What do you want me to do?" I was astonished. I had never met a communist leader who was prepared to depart from his brief when confronted with reality, much less ask what I wanted him to do. I had expected him to brush my points aside as Premier Hua Guofeng had done in Beijing in 1976 when I pressed him over the inconsistency of China's supporting the Malayan Communist Party to foment revolution in Singapore, not Malaya. Hua had answered with bluster, "I do not know the details, but whenever communists fight, they will win." Not Deng. He realized that he had to face up to this problem if Vietnam was to be isolated. I hesitated to tell this seasoned, weather-beaten revolutionary what he should do, but since he had asked me, I said, "Stop such radio broadcasts; stop such appeals. It will be better for the ethnic Chinese in Asean if China does not underline their kinship and call upon their ethnic sympathy. The suspicion of the indigenous peoples will always be there, whether or not China emphasizes these blood ties. But if China appeals to these blood ties so blatantly, it must increase their suspicions, China must stop radio broadcasts from south China by the Malayan and Indonesian Communist Parties.
 
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That is grossly simplistic. But no surprise there.

If China take her own interests ahead of others, that mean China is on China's side, correct ? So that does mean China is automatically against everyone else ?

But then since the end of WW II, what have China done to convince, not just Japan, but the rest of Asia that China have no ambitions against them ?

From Third World to First: The Singapore Story - 1965-2000: Lee Kuan Yew: 9780060197766: Amazon.com: Books


Haha, I guess you again want to talk about communist China, right?

Look, tell you how China become a communist country, the fuucking bloody history.

China established the first democratic and republic nation in Asia in 1912. In 1930's before WWII, Shanghai had been the most prosperous city in Asia. Japanese vast attack Chinese govt since 1931-1945, a huge number( dozens of million) of Chinese in east lost their farmland or jobs fled to west part China, became poor, they started to support communism. University moved to the west part, students joined in CCP. You should know from 1860‘s-1930's, communism had little influence in China or Chinese mind. Because Confucian was stronger than Communism.

At the same time, USSR vastly support weapons to communist part in north and west part.

How much I dislike extremely communism, the more I fuuucking hate Japanese. allright, it's ridiculous to talk about this with American who believe in pragmatism. :-)
 
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How much I dislike extremely communism, the more I fuuucking hate Japanese.
This make no sense. The Japanese of today is nothing like the Japanese of militaristic Imperial Japan of WW II, whereas the Chinese communists of today is very much of the same vein of the Chinese communists of post WW II that devastated China, even worse than what Imperial Japanese troops did.

The Japanese of today do not seek to have any influence in China, whereas the Chinese communists of today want to dominate all of Asia, and that sentiment is well expressed in this forum on how China must retake her 'rightful' place as leader of Asia. What is that 'rightful' place and under whose authority did it came from ? Let me guess -- the blessings from Heaven ?
 
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This make no sense. The Japanese of today is nothing like the Japanese of militaristic Imperial Japan of WW II, whereas the Chinese communists of today is very much of the same vein of the Chinese communists of post WW II that devastated China, even worse than what Imperial Japanese troops did.

The Japanese of today do not seek to have any influence in China, whereas the Chinese communists of today want to dominate all of Asia, and that sentiment is well expressed in this forum on how China must retake her 'rightful' place as leader of Asia. What is that 'rightful' place and under whose authority did it came from ? Let me guess -- the blessings from Heaven ?

You guess wrong. Ability depends responsibility. After reform and open policy, China has two model, called officially socialism with Chinese characteristics, very easy to be understood, In Chinese internal issues govt use reformed socialism (different with Russian communism model ), in world, China use peace and development, or pragmatism.

How pragmatism American they are, how pragmatism Chinese are. Nobody will refuse mutual beneficial policy, especially most nations in Asia are still developing nations. Development of economy and life standard is the core.
 
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This make no sense. The Japanese of today is nothing like the Japanese of militaristic Imperial Japan of WW II, whereas the Chinese communists of today is very much of the same vein of the Chinese communists of post WW II that devastated China, even worse than what Imperial Japanese troops did.

The Japanese of today do not seek to have any influence in China, whereas the Chinese communists of today want to dominate all of Asia, and that sentiment is well expressed in this forum on how China must retake her 'rightful' place as leader of Asia. What is that 'rightful' place and under whose authority did it came from ? Let me guess -- the blessings from Heaven ?

As we all know, Chinese only respect power and with power only can brought them into Negotiation table
 
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As we all know, Chinese only respect power and with power only can brought them into Negotiation table

Yes, this is the main experience Chinese learn from history and American. Besides, Chinese also respect Nepal (Buddhism), Denmark (democracy), Peru (Catholicism) and Switzerland (neutralism).

I don't want to talk about the nation of Indonesia. When Indonesian-Chinese would like to respect Indonesia, I will follow them.
 
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Lost the War, or Ur guys u'd better to learn Japanese ... 八格牙路 !:coffee:
 
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This make no sense. The Japanese of today is nothing like the Japanese of militaristic Imperial Japan of WW II, whereas the Chinese communists of today is very much of the same vein of the Chinese communists of post WW II that devastated China, even worse than what Imperial Japanese troops did.

The Japanese of today do not seek to have any influence in China, whereas the Chinese communists of today want to dominate all of Asia, and that sentiment is well expressed in this forum on how China must retake her 'rightful' place as leader of Asia. What is that 'rightful' place and under whose authority did it came from ? Let me guess -- the blessings from Heaven ?

I guess the Chinese government believe that they have the so-called "Mandate of Heaven" and reviving the idea of "Tianxia."
 
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When Japan felt China was not a significant threat pacifism reigned...now with China's military growth pacifism will go out the window (which isn't a shockeroo)

China can't have it both ways...but they are trying to rationalize it while everybody else shakes their heads.
 
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Japan's contribution to world peace would well be that they served as logistic bases and holiday spots for US GIs from Korean war and Vietnam war, similar to what the Pinoy boys have done for the world. Japan has been a comfort place, nearly the role of a comfort woman, to support US actions in Asia. Japan has been showing off in a doggy style as everything is controlled in the American hands...
 
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Japan's contribution to world peace would well be that they served as logistic bases and holiday spots for US GIs from Korean war and Vietnam war, similar to what the Pinoy boys have done for the world. Japan has been a comfort place, nearly the role of a comfort woman, to support US actions in Asia. Japan has been showing off in a doggy style as everything is controlled in the American hands...

Wow no real argument again go back to slanders, lies and racist comments typical chinese insults and you people still think why people hate you guys? i guess its no mystery now.
 
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Wow no real argument again go back to slanders, lies and racist comments typical chinese insults and you people still think why people hate you guys? i guess its no mystery now.

Wake up! You pinoy boys are nothing to the world, no history, no culture, no economy, no nothing...Only zeros.
 
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March 8, 2015,a NHK journalist asked Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi on the Press, saying :” China is using the history issue as a tool to denigrate Japan's contribution to international peace over many years “, it took me a while to realize the meaning of Japanese journalist’s question since it is hard to find the Japanese peace contribution , what has Japan done to world peace? Japan is a economic giant but a political dwarf, whose fate is totally mastered in the US’s hands, for such a country, what it can do to contribute world peace?

In fact, the peace contribution from Japanese mouth came out its former PM, Fukuda Takeo, who pledged that Japan, a country committed to peace, would never become a military power and that Japan would build up a relationship of mutual confidence and trust with Southeast Asian countries at August, 1977.which later became Fukuda Doctrine, and serves as the foundation of Japan's current and future diplomacy.

From the Japanese point of view, the peace contribution Japan made is that it has not established an nominal army in the last 70 years, has not threat neighboring countries, the world peace is kept because Japan did not conducted badly. That is its contribution?

It is a peace contribution if aggressive Japan can abide by its “peace constitution”, however, Japanese does not want to do, and they want to reverse the peace constitution. Today’s Japan, lead by Abe, is trying to break peace constitution. It has been long since the ww2 that Japan tried to rebuild and expand its military. Before the Abe became the Japanese lead, they upgraded “Japan defense Agency” to “Japan defense department” though Japan does not have an nominal army. Now, as many pdf members says, it has the No1 navy in Asia, and has a large storage of nuclear material which can make thousands of nuclear bombs, and two aircraft carrier is under construction. So called Fukuda Doctrine is only a cover.

There is a stone table standing in the front of the building of Japanese defense Agency, carved with the note “: no world peace till north four islands returning!”, it is well know that the four islands was occupied by Former Soviet at the end of WW2,concerted by the agreements made among the winners of WW2, it is a problem between Russian and Japan rather than a problem between Japan and the world, it should hate Russian, but why does the stone says that the there is no world peace? Obviously, it tells Japan's dissatisfaction with the world order after ww2, it also suggests that Japan cannot introspect what it has done in ww2. Japan is good at making empty saying to cover its predatory ambitions. Let alone contribute to world peace.
It is reasonable China criticizes Japan for its historical view, for its reverse from peace constitution, but the Japanese regard Chinese remarks as denigration Japanese think it is their contribution to the world peace that Japan did not appear as a military power, namely the world would not be in peace if Japan develop its military.

The present Japan is going back to Militarism step by step, history will not repeat, but fate will repeat, poor Japanese.

Their Economic Assistance is one of the major Contribution to world Peace
 
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