What changes do you want in our education system ?

[Mugwop]

I can't say anything about ur friend

Hmm ok so what do you think needs to be changed?

 

[VCheng]

Hey, @The Diplomat where did your posts (and mine) go in this thread? It would be "educational" to know why they were deleted.

 

[The Diplomat]

Hey, @The Diplomat where did your posts (and mine) go in this thread? It would be "educational" to know why they were delated.

My posts are still here man. Page 4, #55. Which one was deleted?

 

[VCheng]

My posts are still here man. Page 4, #55. Which one was deleted?

The ones with the funky math about costs?

 

[The Diplomat]

The ones with the funky math about costs?

Oh, hey i spent ages on that... Where did they go!? @Mods

 

[VCheng]

Oh, hey i spent ages on that... Where did they go!? @Mods

It would be nice to know what rules was violated that led to the deletion? Or somebody just did not like them?

 

[The Diplomat]

@Syed.Ali.Haider found it!
It's on the PDP thread:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/launch-of-pakistan-defence-party.509475/page-48

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Literacy Rate: 59% (2016 fig)
Total amount of students: 97,500,000
Primary Education: 22,650,000
Secondary Education: 2,884,400 (Does not seem right)
Post Secondary: 1,949,000

Going of the data above in total Pakistan would need around 580 - 600 schools for secondary education (considering that one school holds 5,000 students) however I really dispute the figure given above for secondary education in Pakistan... Surely it must be higher.
Note to add: The £5M figure I gave included the land donated by the local counsel and that high schools in the UK are changing to academies meaning they are partly funded by the private sector. I'm sure businesses such as Bahria Town would love to sponsor though.

Well the education budget is around $8B, you talked about considering the price to be £1M ($1,316,605) however lets just say that equipment costs a lot and the total cost of one school is around £2.5M ($3,291,512 or 346,431,690 Rs).
If the price is £2.5M then the total cost of 600 schools will be £240M. Teacher training will also be required. If teachers train at world level then the cost should be around £10K per teacher. Estimated amount of 70-80 teachers will be needed per school.
So for one school's training will be £800k.

Summary:
School Construction cost: £2.5M (Per School).
For 600 Schools Construction Cost: £1.5B
Teacher Training per School: £800,000
Teacher Training for 600 Schools: £480M

Total: Nearly £2B (Cost for only High Schools, Grade: 7 to 11 A-Levels).

As for financing this, there are several methods.

• Put a tax on unhealthy items, such as cigarettes. I know that it's addictive and therefor will likely be inelastic and will not reduce the amount being consumed by alot however the quantity demanded will contract and shift to the left and will also bring in revenue for the government.
• There are several sectors in Pakistan that are taxable by 0%, an example being agriculture. That should be changed to a reasonable amount, something like 20%.
• Lahore has hit the news recently for pollution, lets put a pollution tax on vehicles producing a certain number of carbon emissions.
• Increase the amount of subsidies being given to new businesses in the country, this will result in higher incomes for the country as a whole and will result in real GDP shifting to the right (non-economic term: increase in GDP).
• Basic thing would be to do is to have tax reforms.

 

[VCheng]

@Syed.Ali.Haider found it!
It's on the PDP thread:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/launch-of-pakistan-defence-party.509475/page-48

Thank you for pointing me to the correct thread.

(I apologize for the error, but I could not find the posts listed under the "My Content" listing for a while. Weird.)

 

[Ahmad Sajjad Paracha]

Hmm ok so what do you think needs to be changed?

About what ??

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Deen and science must be there

 

[Azadkashmir]

For me i believe in holistic approach it starts with health first.

food = boiled healthy organic vegetables most days with some meat but given once a week not beef and etc.
Drink = freshly squeezed fruits like oranges/lemon/limes I am talking about the n there the fruit is squeezed cannot get fresher than that etc.
snacks = cashew nuts, pista, baddam etc.
Exercise like boxing, bow and arrow, sling shot, air rifle, maybe learning put together real ak47, horse riding, gym wrestling/ gym weight training/ swimming etc.

One more course should be taught wet cupping which is good for health.

Make them strong and healthy then target the brain. Mind, body and the soul development the building can be cheap but quality of teacher counts. I prefer practical rather than theory.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Pakistan must be falling behind technology as technology is excessive in western world to point they are even not teaching writing skills in schools anymore direct to computers

The basic grade 1 to grade 10 structure needs a revision

 

[Asian.Century]

Complete change of subjects, more upto date subjects encouraging innovation, research, and entrepreneurship.

 

[Azadkashmir]

 

[jamahir]

It depends on economy. Right now our economy can not support those 'millions' childrens on the streets or have no access to edu. For time being, we can improve.the standard of education for those who 'in whatever form but still' have access to education system.

Education must be free. I am talking about high-quality education.

As for employment, it should be built around a commune-based employment where people give their time to their neighborhood's needs. This is other than their personal interest ( for example, botany, chemistry, electrical engineering ).

I am talking of a proper, scientific society.

First and foremost: GENDER DE-SEGREGATION

How can we expect to have a harmonious society when you raise half the population to be scared of the other half.
It really makes me crazy when I see gender segregation being pushed.
And for all the people who are afraid that kids will start to get too "friendly"
well here is news for you, they already do

second would be no religious education.
not because I am against religion, but because there are a million versions of even the same religion. Let the parents choose which version of their religion they want their kids to be by teaching it themselves. And let the schools do their job by providing a secular education


Finally, inquiry based teaching. Not wrote memorizing.
We have computers that will memorize a billion times more than you. We need people who can actually use their brains.

Good points.