What can Imran khan do if courts interferes in everything

[HAIDER]

Judges are silent cancer and the biggest problem for Pakistan. Pakistan will not move forward until and unless they are executed.

I never seen courts interfere so much in govt accountability matters or cases.

 

[HAIDER]

Wait soon they will ruined the Steel mill deal too, just like Ifitikhar Chaudry ruined PIA privatization deal and steel mill deal during Musharraf era.
Then they fail to provide proof of there kickbacks and foreign land investment in courts. And say, all these properties belongs to my wife ....lolzz... what a shame...

 

[Norwegian]

He should try to get 2/3 majority in Senate and parliament and should start judicial reforms

How to get 2/3 majority when every other Pakistani hates him? At least be realistic when giving solutions.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

How to get 2/3 majority when every other Pakistani hates him? At least be realistic when giving solutions.

In sha Allah, some things will change before then. Have faith.

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

He should try to get 2/3 majority in Senate and parliament and should start judicial reforms

The mafia and even the "power circle" won't let that happen. Just like RTM stopped working making PTI loose their simple majority. Expect everyone from Mr. Fazlu to opposition trying everything to prevent that from happening from trying to cajole coalition partners to trying to break away members and make turncoats.
There is a reason why you can hear such a hue and cry from the opposition and demand everyday for IK to step aside. Senate elections happen and their and the mafia, even the power circle mafia know they are in trouble.
Common man but more importantly the educated and politically aware men would need to stand up and ensure that mandate is respected and no power games steal the numbers away from PTI which will enable them a significant numbers in senate, opening the possibilities for some kind of major reforms to perhaps happen.

 

[FuturePAF]

You are asking to play the game when the odds are heavily stacked against you and have no chance of winning, and we already have that citizen who has done what you speak of and he is losing because the game is rigged, instead of wasting another decade in this hopeless dream I say go for the direct solution regardless of the consequences, break the game and create a new one.



That's fine and dandy but who the fck is going to implement these when the corrupt politicians and their puppets whether in the judiciary or elsewhere have the head start for the past 50 odd years and will resist any changes every step of the way?

who going to maintain it if it is a system dictated by one prime minister, which can be overturned by the next prime minister. Popular support needs to be build, corrupt people exposed and punished as Imran Khan originally claimed he was going to do. This time he just had to be bold support the prosecution. If the accused are so corrupt, the evidence should be obvious, that a great team of lawyers can put together a case that will get them convicted.

if judges fail to convict with airtight incriminating evidence then the system is a waste and martial law might as well be imposed. The problem with martial law will be that what ever is done will be overturned when we go back to civilian rule.

Finding the evidence, gathering the witness, documenting the paper trail and educating the masses is the best long term solution. It will take some time but will last.

You are right, they will oppose it every step of the way, but it’s a struggle worth doing if we want to make the victory permanent. Expect set backs and political maneuvering by the enemy, but as momentum builds, and as the people stand with Imran khan once they know what exactly is happening, irreversible change will come IA.

 

[PakAlp]

Democracy is a failure even in the US, you have sold out congressman and politicians that do the biding of the corrupted rich, they resist in the passing of reforms that may be beneficial for the country if those reforms harm those corrupted rich in some way and the cycle repeats itself, if you want to know how corrupt the American democratic system really is just watch John Oliver's show Last Week Tonight on YouTube.

What would be a better alternative system. In Islamic system you also have a parliament called Majlis Shura, they then elect the leader. The Majlis Shura is elected by the people. This is very similar to the democratic system.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

What would be a better alternative system. In Islamic system you also have a parliament called Majlis Shura, they then elect the leader. The Majlis Shura is elected by the people. This is very similar to the democratic system.

Role of the Qazi is different than that of judges. His job is not to be stuck in a courtroom to deliberate only the evidence there, but to ascertain the truth with hikmah. He is further personally accountable for all decisions he makes. He can be removed by his superior, who in turn has a superior, this goes all the way up to Mufti e Azam.

Our Qabaili lakke and Afghan Pukhtoon areas utilize this form of jirga justice in a simple form.

It is hard to explain, if you have seen Yunus Emre, they show how this functioned during Seljuk times.

 

[El Sidd]

What would be a better alternative system. In Islamic system you also have a parliament called Majlis Shura, they then elect the leader. The Majlis Shura is elected by the people. This is very similar to the democratic system.

Role of the Qazi is different than that of judges. His job is not to be stuck in a courtroom to deliberate only the evidence there, but to ascertain the truth with hikmah. He is further personally accountable for all decisions he makes. He can be removed by his superior, who in turn has a superior, this goes all the way up to Mufti e Azam.

Our Qabaili lakke and Afghan Pukhtoon areas utilize this form of jirga justice in a simple form.

It is hard to explain, if you have seen Yunus Emre, they show how this functioned during Seljuk times.

i will troll your supreme mufti leader into insanity.

ye mera wada raha inshallah

 

[Norwegian]

What would be a better alternative system. In Islamic system you also have a parliament called Majlis Shura, they then elect the leader. The Majlis Shura is elected by the people. This is very similar to the democratic system.

There is no alternative

 

[Taimoor Khan]

The PM can only do what the LAW allows him to do; under the constitution of Pakistan. If he wants to do otherwise, he needs amendments for which he requires 2/3rd majority in the parliament and senate.

Even when such a law is passed, the Judiciary can invoke judicial review to ensure that the proposals and amendments are within the constitution otherwise any tyrant can run away with the country by becoming a KING!

You didnt answer my question.

As an elected Cheif executive of Pakistan, under present laws and constitution, does a sitting PM have powers to exercise his will on matters which are already proven to be of public interests , with or without judiciary consent or opposition? Can he put judiciary orders in bin and say no , my orders are supreme? Specially in this case where another state institution, FIA, has already exposed the sugar mafia?

 

[BATMAN]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1270956863899742208

No judicial decision is needed... which eventually is a technical matter.
Facts on subsidy for Sugar exports are in public already, unless there are other investigations going on regarding profits of Sugar mills etc.
As far Sugar prices increase is concerned, climb never stopped and is directly linked with inflation.
In both cases, namely... subsidy and inflation. Person/s who can be held responsible without needing courts intervention are Imran Khan and his CM Buzdar, who simply don't have balls big enough to say no to Imran Khan.
If Imran Khan like to name some of his advisor in addition, that will be his personal discretion!

Wait soon they will ruined the Steel mill deal too, just like Ifitikhar Chaudry ruined PIA privatization deal and steel mill deal during Musharraf era.
Then they fail to provide proof of there kickbacks and foreign land investment in courts. And say, all these properties belongs to my wife ....lolzz... what a shame...

During Musharraf era, Iftikhar Chaudary and Imran Khan were together in anti Musharraf agitation and much more!
You will not be allowed to distort historical facts from recent past.

 

[PakAlp]

Role of the Qazi is different than that of judges. His job is not to be stuck in a courtroom to deliberate only the evidence there, but to ascertain the truth with hikmah. He is further personally accountable for all decisions he makes. He can be removed by his superior, who in turn has a superior, this goes all the way up to Mufti e Azam.

Our Qabaili lakke and Afghan Pukhtoon areas utilize this form of jirga justice in a simple form.

It is hard to explain, if you have seen Yunus Emre, they show how this functioned during Seljuk times.

Isn't the modern Judge similar to the Qazi?
The Qazi himself investigates the cases but with the population rising it is difficult for Qazis to investigate, this is why the Qazi(judge) of today get help from the police to investigate. So the police builds up a case and then gives the evidence in court to the Judge to make the decision.

The judges of today have alot more power I guess, they have supreme Judicial council which could sack them but nothing above that.

i will troll your supreme mufti leader into insanity.

ye mera wada raha inshallah

Lol to he honest I wouldn't want a 21st century mufti making the decisions.

 

[El Sidd]

Lol to he honest I wouldn't want a 21st century mufti making the decisions.

you don't have the intellect anymore to outdo the 73 constitution

 

[PakAlp]

you don't have the intellect anymore to outdo the 73 constitution

The people intellect has gone down. This is the sign of the day of judgement. Great people will pass away and replaced by those with less intellect. If we had Mufti as a leader of judges, we would be screwed