What Ashton Carter wants from India

[agni 6]

Like Everybody else, it wants to make money through our corrupt import lobby which will never let Indian indigenous
MIC to flourish creating huge jobs and the growth of the economy.It is even better than our current suppliers in the sense that if we don't agree to their terms in whichever field they can sanction us and of course why not try and drive a wedge between the Russians and ourselves.The Russians are already making money so lets share in the booty.We at least get something worthwhile from the Russians and it is a time tested friendship though loaded in their favor but from America things will end in tragedy as they do for every non white nation who befriends them.It will ultimately become a slave master relationship.

 

[Nisha]

Nag development is too slow and the tech will be obselete by the time it reaches the military. While its a great step for the domestic industry, its parameters are not that great.

 

[&%)@$)(!#]

@illusion8 Does US want offset value reduced beyond 30% or is it only about their choice of local partners , I didn't get that .

I can't fathom out their concern with liability issues, aren't we supposed to get guarantee for the stuff we buy ??Even Russia replaced two fighters when we insisted.

By the way every Indian would agree that our decision making bodies are painfully slow.MMRCA is stinging example of that.

MH-60 looks awesome.

MK- 41 Naval Gun

Nag- contrary to popular belief is not moving along at a snail's pace. The recent tests have shown very promising results and the Namica re-configuration has been successfully tested. The integration of the miniaturized cryogenic cooling system for the previously uncooled LWIR seeker on the Nag has removed all the previous issues of low seeker acquisition capability in high temperature environments. The modified seeker engaged eight out of eight targets in the current trial, both stationary and moving.

Any valid link to substantiate that fairy tale ?? It sounds too good to be true.

 

[Dillinger]

@illusion8 Does US want offset value reduced beyond 30% or is it only about their choice of local partners , I didn't get that .

I can't fathom out their concern with liability issues, are not we supposed to get guarantee for the stuff we buy ??Even Russia replaced two fighters when we insisted.

By the way every Indian would agree that our decision making bodies are painfully slow.MMRCA is stinging example of that.

MH-60 looks awesome.

MK- 41 Naval Gun

Any valid link to substantiate that fairy tale ?? It sounds too good to be true.

Blame the jounos who were present at the firings and kept oohing and aahing at the MK.1A- later on they wrote about it and called it the MK.2. Must have given the IA a few chuckles. There will be no links- but its been done. The IA is finally happy with it but is beset at the moment with another OFB fracas- their own ammo sabotaged one of their 45 cal. big-guns- apne hi haaton apne pair pe khuladhi maarna.

 

[&%)@$)(!#]

Nag development is too slow and the tech will be obselete by the time it reaches the military. While its a great step for the domestic industry, its parameters are not that great.

Really ?? Did you know Nag is third generation anti-tank missile ?? It uses same seekers as that of Javelin.

 

[illusion8]

@illusion8 Does US want offset value reduced beyond 30% or is it only about their choice of local partners , I didn't get that .

I can't fathom out their concern with liability issues, are not we supposed to get guarantee for the stuff we buy ??Even Russia replaced two fighters when we insisted.

By the way every Indian would agree that our decision making bodies are painfully slow.MMRCA is stinging example of that.

It's a first and right up our alley..

1. India has been insisting on 30% offsets for which the US has asked for a flexible percentage as in - the offset will depend on the partner and the product, what they are asking is that let the company decide on the offset part - one thing is certain is that some part of co production is bound to happen in India but stipulating that 30% ratio has to be adhered to will put bureaucratic constraints in clearing most projects with innumerable calculations and delays.

2. Liabilities - again what the US is asking for is sharing liability between the seller and the buyer as in - both are equally responsible for any delays or other issues - also they are asking for a clear text on it so that both will be clear on it.

3. Mother of all issues - delays - the US is asking for speedy clearances.

 

[Dillinger]

Really ?? Did you know Nag is third generation anti-tank missile ?? It uses same seekers as that of Javelin.

Although there was a report at the end of July of the dry seeker runs in the 2800-3500 meters (if I remember correctly) range- worked out well. Later tests- which this specific test was a part/batch of were never "reported" upon.

 

[agni 6]

Nag development is too slow and the tech will be obselete by the time it reaches the military. While its a great step for the domestic industry, its parameters are not that great.

Nag is state of the art proven in the harshest terrain of the world.It is the first among equals like
TOW-F/HOT-3/AT-9/AT-15 etc.Nag is not going to be obsolete for another 15-20 yrs.
My advise is to buy half the requirement either spike or javelin off the shelf and kick *** of drdo to bring mpAT nag as fast as possible.We are already having the base technolgies to do so.

 

[Nisha]

Area of concern should be low rate of success -only one out of four hitting the target. Basic limitation with missiles using IR guidance is that target must be thermally distinguishable from the background.May be in deserts required the temperature differential is not available or the missiles were fired before lock on occurred which need to be investigated thoroughly. Namica -the Nag missile carrier is another story which should not be mixed with Nag. DRDO will do well to have parallel source to convert BMP through auto majors instead of depending solely on ordnance factories.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/induction-of-nag-missile-likely-to-be-delayed-further/article3800078.ece

http://samantk.com/News/Defence/nag-atgm-issues-being-ironed-out.html

 

[sasi]

@illusion8 Does US want offset value reduced beyond 30% or is it only about their choice of local partners , I didn't get that .

I can't fathom out their concern with liability issues, aren't we supposed to get guarantee for the stuff we buy ??Even Russia replaced two fighters when we insisted.

By the way every Indian would agree that our decision making bodies are painfully slow.MMRCA is stinging example of that.

MH-60 looks awesome.

MK- 41 Naval Gun

Any valid link to substantiate that fairy tale ?? It sounds too good to be true.

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yaa,they are lobbying for dilute offsets.
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MH-60 will dwarf the tri service using same platform of 10-12 tn heli. Sanction from MOD awaited from last 4yrs.
Ofcoure it's not immediately required since all 3 services importing. But it will require in next decade.
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naval gun- ok
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nag-
DRDO tastes rare success in evaluation trials of Nag - Times Of India