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I predicted this behavior....trying to point fingers at others to hide their own dark secrets. :D

While the US is very much at fault here, this does not hide the fact that China does the same thing. :lol:
It is interesting how they can't see the similarities of it in China...kind of funny actually. Poun par mari kulhari. ..also more like aa bayl sing mar
 
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Calls Out U.S. ‘Concentration Camps’


the term concentration camps should in my opinion be reserved for policies by governments that aim to both imprison and kill entire population groups based on for instance who they pray to.

the example in history of how the Jews were "treated" by the Germans in WW2, is too important to let be diluted.

either come up with a new term, or make it clear, through persistent hard work if necessary, that "border detention camps" can have very grave things wrong with them as well, as they clearly have today in the US.

i think the border crisis, border detention crisis (#bdc), needs to be addressed with elements from both Democratic and Republican applied into a real solution.

making it clear that attempts to immigrate into the US are futile, by always shipping people back, making this well known in the countries of origin of the asylum seekers through advertisement ran in their local language, and keeping a persistent eye on living conditions in those countries of origin, is needed as well.

of course, it'll be hard preventing the US from being abused to take care of stability problems in countries of origin for asylum seekers.

but they're all necessary steps if the US wants to prevent being accused later, and possibly suffering economic and military/strategic losses due to poor reputation, of being in control of an immigration system that basically tortures people based on false promises.

the Chinese government faces the same problem in "dealing" with the Chinese muslim populations, and those of other minorities that can be identified as a group, such as Falun Gong.

once the world figures out that by avoiding comparisons to worse horrors found earlier on the human timeline,
it becomes possible to see where and how pressure can be applied to governments through persistent naming and shaming. naming with the name a government gave to their own inhumane policies, not some label found earlier in human history.

normally i avoid playing language police like i'd avoid the plague,
but this is different.

see, 'concentration camp', refers to a truly horrible plan with global proportions.
if the germans and their allies had won WW2, we'd be living in a world with several religions and population groups wiped out entirely or nearly entirely.
even more than just the nutters, gipsies, and Jews.

and the same goes for any other label that people would think have the greatest weight.

people know this instinctively or consciously, and so the public's attention is refocussed onto that 'is it or aint it' question every time such comparisons are used in public debate.
 
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the Chinese government faces the same problem in "dealing" with the Chinese muslim populations

We are tired of your fake sympathy for Uyghur Muslims.

Especially you who comes here with an ID with ‘Peace’ it in, yet promote open Islamophobia here.

Keep your fake outrage to yourself. Muslims are not points or pawns in your little games.
 
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We are tired of your fake sympathy for Uyghur Muslims.

Especially you who comes here with an ID with ‘Peace’ it in, yet promote open Islamophobia here.

Keep your fake outrage to yourself. Muslims are not points or pawns in your little games.

anything that dares criticize muslim behavior / policies here, is islamophobia according to you, i suppose?


your pride is getting others killed. others of your own faith even.
 
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the term concentration camps should in my opinion be reserved for policies by governments that aim to both imprison and kill entire population groups based on for instance who they pray to.

the example in history of how the Jews were "treated" by the Germans in WW2, is too important to let be diluted.
The goal of the Mr. beijing here is to lower the US down to the level of the Nazis and his China. The difference here is that these are migrants, not citizens like the Jews who were citizens of their countries of persecution or citizens like how the Chinese Muslims are. Plus, they came here, not rounded up.

...that "border detention camps" can have very grave things wrong with them as well, as they clearly have today in the US.
We do not deny that these facilities are inadequate. They were not originally built to handle the current crisis. The Border Patrol plead with the US Congress, not the Executive Branch (president), for money to build up the facilities and were denied. While overall, the US can be blamed for the current conditions, the charge cannot be that these people are somehow persecuted for what they are.

making it clear that attempts to immigrate into the US are futile, by always shipping people back, making this well known in the countries of origin of the asylum seekers through advertisement ran in their local language, and keeping a persistent eye on living conditions in those countries of origin, is needed as well.
Mexico contributed to the problem by encouraging the migrants.
 
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The goal of the Mr. beijing here is to lower the US down to the level of the Nazis and his China. The difference here is that these are migrants, not citizens like the Jews who were citizens of their countries of persecution or citizens like how the Chinese Muslims are. Plus, they came here, not rounded up.


We do not deny that these facilities are inadequate. They were not originally built to handle the current crisis. The Border Patrol plead with the US Congress, not the Executive Branch (president), for money to build up the facilities and were denied. While overall, the US can be blamed for the current conditions, the charge cannot be that these people are somehow persecuted for what they are.


Mexico contributed to the problem by encouraging the migrants.
You are the one in your own league when it comes to concentration camps , be them for Japanese Americans, immigrants or global war POWs you locked up for years in Guantanamo bay.
US boasts the world biggest inmate population, your detention facilities are more than enough, could have more than the rest of the world combined.
 
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your pride is getting others killed. others of your own faith even.

The killers and their financiers are well known to us.

Worry about your own country, leave the Muslim world alone.

We don’t care for your crocodile tears.

China is a friend and trading partner of ours for generations. Many of our sahabah died in China, their descendants like the Hui and Muslims of Gansu were peacefully embraced by the Chinese.

Islamic world has no qualms with China.

They didn’t occupy Afghanistan or Iraq, neither are they supporting proxy wars all over the ME, nor are they justifying the genocide in Palestine and Kashmir giving blanket cover to mass-murderers.

Guantanamo

That with Abu Ghareeb and Bagram airbase should prove without a doubt of the natures of these detention/torture centers.

Any normal human being would be ashamed to be part of that.
 
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You are the one in your own league when it comes to concentration camps , be them for Japanese Americans, immigrants or global war POWs you locked up for years in Guantanamo bay.
US boasts the world biggest inmate population, your detention facilities are more than enough, could have more than the rest of the world combined.
It is over. No one take this 'concentration camps' seriously. Not even the Mexicans. They are embarrassed that many of their countrymen and their government are complicit in this border mess. Sure, you will get a few 'Thanks' for your posts from suck-ups, but that will be the extent of your worthless argument. The UN is more concerned with your real concentration camps than with our border mess.
 
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People should come to America legally , and putting people in concentration camps who want asylum is not right . Two wrongs don't make a right .
 
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There are no 'concentration camps' in the US. [emoji38]
I am just saying what American are calling it . They are not those concentration camps which Hitler has it but they are different . There are reports in US media about sexual assault and kids been forcefully separated from their mothers which is not a humane thing to do .
 
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I am just saying what American are calling it . They are not those concentration camps which Hitler has it but they are different . There are reports in US media about sexual assault and kids been forcefully separated from their mothers which is not a humane thing to do .
Only a few are calling these detention facilities as 'concentration camps' and they are wrong.

Sexual assault? By whom?

Children separated from their parents?


Fake families have been known for months.

You hate US. I get that. But do try to be intellectually honest, even though that is quite a lot to ask of anyone here in PDF. :enjoy:
 
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