What according to you is the most humiliating event in entire history?

[ApparentRaceTraitor]

Anglo-Zanzibar war of 1896 - Approximately 45 minutes

The battle of karansebes 1788/87 (can't remember)

The emu war (1930's i believe)

 

[scionoftheindus]

It had little to do with God.

It was primarily 3 countries involved in the wars against Israel with limited support from fellow Muslim countries. Israelis outnumbered the Arabs by 2x in the first war and outnumbered Arabs against by 50,000 men in the third war. So the myth of Israel "being tiny" compared to the Arab countries is not true at all.

Arab leadership was also horrible. They rushed troops without any tactics and plans, costing them heavy casualties. Arab leaders and the armies they commanded were not experienced at all.

Many Israeli commanders and soldiers on the other hand were well-experienced and battle hardened.

There was also national motivation; for Israelis it was a matter of life or death of their country - so they were hell-bent in defending it at all cost. If you look at Arab performance (especially that of Egypt's) during the Yom-Kippur war; it increased significantly increased due to that fact that liberating lost territory was essential. Egypt managed to successfully occupy the East coast of Suez inflicting devastating defeats against the Israelis.

When you people win a war, it has got everything to do with god, but when israel wins it hasn't got anything to do with him?Whatever you say I believe God was on israel side;somehow I believe they are the chosen people of God.
Do I need to remind you that all the people who turned the history of humans in recent times are jews like Einstein, Sigmund freid,karl marx,neills Bohr,jesus,moses etc etc
Sorry forgot mark zackerburg

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Chandragupta Maurya,babur too defeated army almost many times the army they possessed..history has many such instances..but none can be compared to the thrashing Arabs received because israel was surrounded from all sides..it has no precedent

Muslims defeating the two superpowers of that time (combined) - the Byzantines and Sassanids; in my opinion is much more humiliating (for Byzantines and Sassanids).

Despite the Byzantines and Sassanids being significantly superior to the Muslims in terms of experience, organisation, discipline, economic, logistic, numerical strength, technology, size, and ect... Muslim armies managed to defeat them despite being outnumbered by massive numbers in almost every battle. Overall kill ratio was around 1:10/1:15 - these series of victories in such a manner have never been rivaled.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

The most humiliating in my humble opinion would be Navy Seal sneaking into Pakistan and killing Osama Bin laden right under the nose of Pakistan Army. That IMHO is the most humiliating event in the history of modern nations.

the most humiliating in my huble opinion is the declaring those navy seals dead within the month of operation.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Muslims defeating the two superpowers of that time (combined) - the Byzantines and Sassanids; in my opinion is much more humiliating (for Byzantines and Sassanids).

Despite the Byzantines and Sassanids being significantly superior to the Muslims in terms of experience, organisation, discipline, economic, logistic, numerical strength, technology, size, and ect... Muslim armies managed to defeat them despite being outnumbered by massive numbers in almost every battle. Overall kill ratio was around 1:10/1:15 - these series of victories in such a manner have never been rivaled.

That too while the Arabs were just done fighting amongst themselves. There strategies were unique. Khalid bin Waleeds (ra) was a true genius in warfare. There's a reason why he's never been defeated in any battle.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Muslims defeating the two superpowers of that time (combined) - the Byzantines and Sassanids; in my opinion is much more humiliating (for Byzantines and Sassanids).

Despite the Byzantines and Sassanids being significantly superior to the Muslims in terms of experience, organisation, discipline, economic, logistic, numerical strength, technology, size, and ect... Muslim armies managed to defeat them despite being outnumbered by massive numbers in almost every battle. Overall kill ratio was around 1:10/1:15 - these series of victories in such a manner have never been rivaled.

within 20 years both were not only defeated but persion empire lost its existance.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

When you people win a war, it has got everything to do with god

That can be because during the early stages Muslims did what was and still is considered near-impossible.

but when israel wins it hasn't got anything to do with him?

Although Israel's victory was impressive; it's achievement was doable and have been done before by an array of different peoples and nations.

 

[ali_raza]

The most humiliating in my humble opinion would be Navy Seal sneaking into Pakistan and killing Osama Bin laden right under the nose of Pakistan Army. That IMHO is the most humiliating event in the history of modern nations.

and i think most humiliating is killing of this 31 seal members.right in the arms of the super power

 

[The Accountant]

For me Israel defeating combined Arab forces ; this has got to be the most humiliating thing for arabs..5 countries surrounded a small tiny young country like wolves but God was on Israelis side ;israel beat the crap out of those 5 countries, they never dared to attack it again.
We've got to give it to israel for bravely standing up against the Arabs right in the middle of arab world .
Pakistan,yemen and Sudan also took part in it..totally 8 countries against a tiny nation..wah God's miracles are unbelievable

For me Israel defeating combined Arab forces ; this has got to be the most humiliating thing for arabs..5 countries surrounded a small tiny young country like wolves but God was on Israelis side ;israel beat the crap out of those 5 countries, they never dared to attack it again.
We've got to give it to israel for bravely standing up against the Arabs right in the middle of arab world .
Pakistan,yemen and Sudan also took part in it..totally 8 countries against a tiny nation..wah God's miracles are unbelievable

Why concerned about others ? For you it should be 700 muslims invading India ... And then for rest of multiple centuries keep on rulling by one or another muslim emperor ... Then conspire with england to rule on muslims and failed again as majority of muslims gain independence ... No nation in history ruled by outsiders for such a long durations other than hindus ... Really humiliating ...

 

[pak-marine]

Chandragupta Maurya,babur too defeated army almost many times the army they possessed..history has many such instances..but none can be compared to the thrashing Arabs received because israel was surrounded from all sides..it has no precedent

Yeah I read the part where u found this to be a "miracle of god" so is that the only reason why you think this was the most humiliating defeat or is there any thing else you want to add !?

 

[Mugwop]

What can be more humiliating then hating Pakistan and spending the rest of your pathetic life on PDF,Sucking up to israel and trying to migrate to Dubai.

 

[scionoftheindus]

and i think most humiliating is killing of this 31 seal members.right in the arms of the super power

Do you people eat,breathe and drink conspiracy theories?

Yeah I read the part where u found this to be a "miracle of god" so is that the only reason why you think this was the most humiliating defeat or is there any thing else you want to add !?

It was indeed a miracle of God..the presence of Israel right in the middle of hostile nations is a sign of God that can make even the staunchest of atheists as believers.

Why concerned about others ? For you it should be 700 muslims invading India ... And then for rest of multiple centuries keep on rulling by one or another muslim emperor ... Then conspire with england to rule on muslims and failed again as majority of muslims gain independence ... No nation in history ruled by outsiders for such a long durations other than hindus ... Really humiliating ...

We are proud that we haven't given up our religion even after 700 years of atrocities committed on us by muslim rulers..dont derail the thread by arguing with me muslim rulers were liberal

 

[Humble Analyst]

Muslims defeating the two superpowers of that time (combined) - the Byzantines and Sassanids; in my opinion is much more humiliating (for Byzantines and Sassanids).

Despite the Byzantines and Sassanids being significantly superior to the Muslims in terms of experience, organisation, discipline, economic, logistic, numerical strength, technology, size, and ect... Muslim armies managed to defeat them despite being outnumbered by massive numbers in almost every battle. Overall kill ratio was around 1:10/1:15 - these series of victories in such a manner have never been rivaled.

This wass a big historical upset which changed the course of History twice, once led by Hazrat Khalid bin Waleed and second by Turks. Thank you for bringing it up.
http://historycollection.co/6-battles-significantly-affected-roman-empire/

 

[The Accountant]

Do you people eat,breathe and drink conspiracy theories?


It was indeed a miracle of God..the presence of Israel right in the middle of hostile nations is a sign of God that can make even the staunchest of atheists as believers.


We are proud that we haven't given up our religion even after 700 years of atrocities committed on us by muslim rulers..dont derail the thread by arguing with me muslim rulers were liberal

Whatever ... Its not derailing ... Topic is about the most humiliating event in history so i am giving my view ...

And please do the corrections in your info ... All muslim rulers were actually outsiders so even if some of them were liberal they will still occupier from point of view of hindus as muslim could see one common ground ...

Furthermore you did not win independence ... UK had to go out of sub.continent out of his own troubles .. And it was just handedover to you it was muslims who had to fight for separation and we won .... You hindus never able to fight enemh of your own size ... Most of the time yu are humilated by armies much smaller than yours ...

 

[vostok]

The selfdestruction of the USSR.