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Western political decay makes China’s path stand out

Western political decay in contemporary time reflects the revival of a historical tendency toward fascism.

This in no way suggests that China's Model would be an alternative. In China's academia there is always a universal understanding that export of ideologies and models to foreign culture-political areas would not generate desired outcomes. Hence, we agree that China's Model is as unexportable as the US or Russian models are.

That explains why the argument that Western political models are in a decaying state does not automatically suggest superiority/applicability of the China Model in these decaying polities. These models (China-Western multitude) are distinct, unique and mutually exclusive. The academic intention here is only to point to such historical tendency of Western political decay as is -- without any comparison with other systems-models.

The argument that 'Western political decay makes China's path stand out" is only to affirm that China's path of pursuing a national development model based on its own historical experience and culture has been proven correct. Again, this is not to suggest a comparative superiority or inferiority vis-a-vis the West.

Now, we have empirical evidence that Western political models (which are varied in themselves and far from being unitary) are not bullet-proof. They are abundant with inherent contradictions. Like Marx said, Western, or let's say "US" for the purpose of simplification, political system creates its own grave diggers in the long span. Thus, adopting blindly such inherently contradictory model would also entail dangers in any foreign organism. Ideally, the West would be better equipped with correcting historical anomalies like how it did during the 1920s and 30s by allowing fascism to emerge, which, it later subdued forcefully by allowing a certain degree of public control over the means of production. However, relations of production in the West remained inherently fascist; hence, fascist tendencies never entirely disappeared. Those tendencies often hide themselves in the elite control of political affairs and depolitization of the masses. The solution to those tendencies in the West lies in the West.

However, if a foreign organism adopted the Western model, it would be much less equipped with finding the right cure. Hence, Western model export in the Middle East created discrepancies and the correction of these discrepancies has to be bloody, as seen in the progress of the Arab Spring. The same contradictions (like inequality, elite control over national affairs and over relations of production and news-making) in the US, for example, generate much less systemic crisis because it is culturally more equipped to respond and make corrections.

The decay, however, suggests that the tendency toward a new form of fascism in the West in general cannot be easily solved as it appears to have reached a point of no response to arbitrary solutions such as allowing a radical outsider to be elected -- as happened in the US. The contradictions remain even with radical governments taking over and with radical feelings running high. The tendency toward fascism is unstoppable because the strong grip of the business elite over national policy (foreign and domestic) and idea making.

These are Western internal affairs, in the simplest analysis. But, foreign policy is an extension of domestic policy. A facade can be constructed to hide the fascist tendencies in domestic politics while fascist-interventionist foreign policy continues unhindered (as happened in the US until recently). What we are witnessing today is perhaps the manifestation of the hidden domestic political tendencies in the West. The result of this could be catastrophic -- if domestic fascist tendencies further reinforced militarism in foreign policy.

This is where we would pay attention to Western political decay, that is, its reflections on foreign policy of these militarily capable nations. This is about our livelihood and existential security. All the recent developments such as the AC group sailing near China's waters and THAAD deployment can be analyzed from this theoretical vantage point.

In short:

Domestic fascist tendencies ---> foreign fascist tendencies ---> more contentious foreign policy (interventions, militarization of foreign diplomacy etc.) ---> a general decline in international security situation.

To reverse the cycle, Western (US) fascism has to be broken and repelled in the international area. This will, eventually, lead to corrections in their domestic policies. But, our concern lies only in the foreign realm and domestic realm remains to be their sovereign area.

@tranquilium , @Chinese-Dragon , @+4vsgorillas-Apebane , @ahojunk , @Jlaw , @oprih
 
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Westerners from Europe are inherently more violent, expansionist and audacious. Higher testerone levels leads to aggression and we have seen endless aggression from western sphere since their ascendency during the renaissance.

Inherent violent tendencies -> Domestic fascist tendencies ---> foreign fascist tendencies ---> more contentious foreign policy (interventions, militarization of foreign diplomacy etc.) ---> a general decline in international security situation

Chinese always focus on harmony in the family, the community, the country and the world and always on the back foot in responding to Western provocation and aggression.
 
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Inherent violent tendencies -> Domestic fascist tendencies ---> foreign fascist tendencies ---> more contentious foreign policy (interventions, militarization of foreign diplomacy etc.) ---> a general decline in international security situation

Excellent observation.

This is a much more innovative flow chart. To make it a cycle, perhaps, we may emphasize the negative impact of worsening global situation on Western domestic constituency, which, in turn, reinforces fascist tendencies.

Hence, the causal cycle would be as such:

Inherent violent tendencies --> Domestic fascist tendencies ---> foreign fascist tendencies ---> more contentious foreign policy (interventions, militarization of foreign diplomacy etc.) ---> a general decline in international security situation --> Inherent violent tendencies toward domestic governance
 
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I think we must adress one thing. I find it outstanding, that some here would see "facism" as negative in any way.

Facism was born in Italy. And i´m not talking about Mussolini. The Roman Empire was Facism in its purest form.

It forms the basic of a nation state. It reached perfection under emperors like Hadrian and Marcus Aurelius.

The great problem arises when one thinks in spheres like "Human rights" and "Democracy"

Those aspects aen´t a self-purpose. They must be a tool to reach the greater good. Stability, security and power.

Italy has many great facist parties. Be it the Forza Italia or Lega Nord. Other european nations follow our example. Be it the french Front National or German AfD.

I dont believe in equality of man. I do judge and see some more worthful than others. Thats the natural way of things.

I respect China for its ability to crush down any oppossition and create stability.
 
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Why Do 'Progressives' Like War?

Fleeing to Canada is no longer an option

Philip Giraldi
Wed, Mar 15, 2017 |



Liberals are supposed to be antiwar, right? I went to college in the 1960s, when students nationwide were rising up in opposition to the Vietnam War. I was a Young Republican back then and supported the war through sheer ignorance and dislike of the sanctimoniousness of the protesters, some of whom were surely making their way to Canada to live in exile on daddy’s money while I was on a bus going to Fort Leonard Wood for basic combat training.

I can’t even claim that I had some grudging respect for the antiwar crowd because I didn’t, but I did believe that at least some of them who were not being motivated by being personally afraid of getting hurt were actually sincere in their opposition to the awful things that were happening in Southeast Asia.

As I look around now, however, I see something quite different. The lefties I knew in college are now part of the Establishment and generally speaking are retired limousine liberals. And they now call themselves progressives, of course, because it sounds more educated and sends a better message, implying as it does that troglodytic conservatives are anti-progress. But they also have done a flip on the issue of war and peace. In its most recent incarnation some of this might be attributed to a desperate desire to relate to the Hillary Clinton campaign with its bellicosity towards Russia, Syria and Iran, but I suspect that the inclination to identify enemies goes much deeper than that, back as far as the Bill Clinton Administration with its sanctions on Iraq and the Balkan adventure, which resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths and the creation of a terror-narco state in the heart of Europe. And more recently we have seen the Obama meddling in Libya, Yemen and Syria in so called humanitarian interventions which have turned out to be largely fraudulent. Yes, under the Obama Dems it was “responsibility to protect time” (r2p) and all the world trembled as the drones were let loose.

Last Friday I started to read an op-ed in The Washington Post by David Ignatius that blew me away. It began “President Trump confronts complicated problems as the investigation widens into Russia’s attack on our political system.” It then proceeded to lay out the case for an “aggressive Russia” in the terms that have been repeated ad nauseam in the mainstream media. And it was, of course, lacking in any evidence, as if the opinions of coopted journalists and the highly politicized senior officials in the intelligence community should be regarded as sacrosanct. These are, not coincidentally, the same people who have reportedly recently been working together to undercut the White House by leaking and then reporting highly sensitive transcripts of phone calls with Russian officials.

Ignatius is well plugged into the national security community and inclined to be hawkish but he is also a typical Post politically correct progressive on most issues. So here was your typical liberal asserting something in a dangerous fashion that has not been demonstrated and might be completely untrue. Russia is attacking “our political system!” And The Post is not alone in accepting that Russia is trying to subvert and ultimately overthrow our republic. Reporting from The New York Times and on television news makes the same assumption whenever they discuss Russia, leading to what some critics have described as mounting American ‘hysteria’ relating to anything coming out of Moscow.

Rachel Maddow is another favorite of mine when it comes to talking real humanitarian feel good stuff out one side of her mouth while beating the drum for war from the other side. In a bravura performance on January 26th she roundly chastised Russia and its president Vladimir Putin. Rachel, who freaked out completely when Donald Trump was elected, is now keen to demonstrate that Trump has been corrupted by Russia and is now controlled out of the Kremlin. She described Trump’s lord and master Putin as an “intense little man” who murders his opponents before going into the whole “Trump stole the election with the aid of Moscow” saga, supporting sanctions on Russia and multiple investigations to get to the bottom of “Putin’s attacks on our democracy.” Per Maddow, Russia is the heart of darkness and, by way of Trump, has succeeded in exercising control over key elements in the new administration.

Unfortunately, people in the media like Ignatius and Maddow are not alone. Their willingness to sell a specific political line that carries with it a risk of nuclear war as fact, even when they know it is not, has been part of the fear-mongering engaged in by Democratic Party loyalists and many others on the left. Their intention is to “get Trump” whatever it takes, which opens the door to some truly dangerous maneuvering that could have awful consequences if the drumbeat and military buildup against Russia continues, leading Putin to decide that his country is being threatened and backed into a corner. Moscow has indicated that it would not hesitate use nuclear weapons if it is being confronted militarily and facing defeat.

The current wave of Russophobia is much more dangerous than the random depiction of foreigners in negative terms that has long bedeviled a certain type of American know-nothing politics. Apart from the progressive antipathy towards Putin personally, there is a virulent strain of anti-Russian sentiment among some self-styled conservatives in congress, best exemplified by Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Graham has recently said “2017 is going to be a year of kicking Russia in the *** in Congress.”

It is my belief that many in the National Security State have convinced themselves that Russia is indeed a major threat against the United States and not because it is a nuclear armed power that can strike the U.S. That appreciation, should, if anything constitute a good reason to work hard to maintain cordial relations rather than not, but it is seemingly ignored by everyone but Donald Trump.

No, the new brand of Russophobia derives from the belief that Moscow is “interfering” in places like Syria and Ukraine. Plus, it is a friend of Iran. That perception derives from the consensus view among liberals and conservatives alike that the U.S. sphere of influence encompasses the entire globe as well as the particularly progressive conceit that Washington should serve to “protect” anyone threatened at any time by anyone else, which provides a convenient pretext for military interventions that are euphemistically described as “peace missions.”

There might be a certain cynicism in many who hate Russia as having a powerful enemy also keeps the cash flowing from the treasuring into the pockets of the beneficiaries of the military industrial congressional complex, but my real fear is that, having been brainwashed for the past ten years, many government officials are actually sincere in their loathing of Moscow and all its works. Recent opinion polls suggest that that kind of thinking is popular among Americans, but it actually makes no sense. Though involvement by Moscow in the Middle East and Eastern Europe is undeniable, calling it a threat against U.S. vital interests is more than a bit of a stretch as Russia’s actual ability to make trouble is limited. It has exactly one overseas military facility, in Syria, while the U.S. has more than 800, and its economy and military budget are tiny compared to that of the United States. In fact, it is Washington that is most guilty of intervening globally and destabilizing entire regions, not Moscow, and when Donald Trump said in an interview that when it came to killing the U.S. was not so innocent it was a gross understatement.

Ironically, pursuing a reset with Russia is one of the things that Trump actually gets right but the new left won’t give him a break because they reflexively hate him for not embracing the usual progressive bromides that they believe are supposed to go with being antiwar. Other Moscow trashing comes from the John McCain camp which demonizes Russia because warmongers always need an enemy and McCain has never found a war he couldn’t support. It would be a tragedy for the United States if both the left and enough of the right were to join forces to limit Trump’s options on dealing with Moscow, thereby enabling an escalating conflict that could have tragic consequences for all parties.

The Unz Review
 
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Op-Ed: If China is really leaving America behind, then let’s learn from China
By Curtis Stone (People's Daily Online) 11:01, September 14, 2017

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Political chaos in Washington and major global challenges facing the U.S. have left many Chinese wondering if Western democracy is on the verge of collapse. From the "Cultural Revolution" turmoil in Charlottesville, Virginia and the withering of the American Dream to America’s declining global leadership, some see the malfunctioning of the U.S. system and the feeling of American decline as evidence that the Western world is doomed.

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That feeling of doom and gloom is made even more apparent because of the relative stability and success of China. As a recent article in the Financial Times by Michael Moritz pointed out, China is marching forward at a rapid pace, while the U.S. is either stuck in neutral or going into reverse. America’s growing list of political, social, and economic problems is troubling news for the U.S., and frankly the world, but it does not spell doom for the American system, nor does it necessarily prove that the Chinese system is superior. However, it does highlight the relative strengths and weaknesses of the two systems.

In fact, China and the U.S. can both learn from each other. As facts show, the both systems have their positives and negatives, and you cannot reasonably argue that one is superior to the other. For example, while China’s system is clearly superior at planning long-term national development strategies and policies, and executing them, such as large-scale infrastructure projects and ambitious science and technology plans, it is also dealing with corruption and other problems at home. Likewise, the U.S. system, while strong in some areas, such as the ability to self-correct, is weak in others.

This reality punctures the myth of American supremacy and opens the door to peaceful coexistence, the rational idea that different systems can coexist peacefully. Take the U.S. state of California’s $64 billion effort to build a bullet train over a relatively short distance in the state’s Central Valley, which is noted in the Financial Times article. While California struggles to push forward this single project, China has built the world’s largest bullet train network. As of the end of 2016, China had some 22,000 kilometers (about 13,700 miles) of high-speed rail lines and more high-speed rail is on the way. In addition, massive rail projects are expanding outward, connecting China to countries around the globe under China’s ambitious Belt and Road Initiative.

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Another example is poverty reduction, arguably the most telling sign of China’s progress in human rights. Just recently, the U.S. Census Bureau announced that its nation’s official poverty rate in 2016 was 12.7 percent, with 40.6 million people in poverty, 2.5 million fewer than in 2015. While impressive, China has achieved unprecedented progress in poverty reduction, including lifting more people out of poverty than any other country in human history. In 2016 alone, China brought 12.4 million rural people above the poverty line, and the government aims to eradicate poverty by 2020. Moritz is dead-on to argue that there can be little debate about what the government in China has done and is doing to improve the wellbeing of its people.

The American system makes it nearly impossible to plan and execute such ambitious long-term plans for its nation’s future, while a strong centralized system that can promote economic development for 1.4 billion people is crucial for China at this stage of its development. This shows that every country should have the right to choose its own political path based on its unique situation, and that no system is necessarily superior to the other. What works for the U.S. will not always work for China, and vice versa. But we can still learn from each other. And indeed, as Moritz has pointed out, China has much to teach the rest of us, including America, and the world should at least be open to the idea of taking notes from China’s successes.
 
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The western political system is actually fine. Just like the usually. It's better than USSR communism and North Korea's.

But it just looks bad because China's is better.

Chinese political system was made as perfection of both democracy and communism. Both Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew and Deng Xiaoping take the credit for it.
 
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郑永年:西方看不清的十九大政治
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/zopinions/views/story20170919-796417

郑永年:十九大与中国未来30年
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/zopinions/views/story20170912-794605

郑永年专访: 十九大后关键任务是强化政策执行
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/greater-china/story20170925-797821


Interesting read for those who can understand Chinese. Read it seperately, it's long.

Chinese political system despite get some input from the western political system, it's still Chinese political system, evolved differently thousand of years.

It will be very hard to explain to non East Asian people. And people who live in democracy country will be very hard to understand it.
 
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